well it's done a good job of preventing the spread of communism and blatant totalitarianism (not saying there's a difference), so there's that
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by Atheris » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:40 pm
by Costa Fierro » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:58 pm
Shofercia wrote:What does NSG say?
by First American Empire » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:29 pm
Badb Catha wrote:Fascism had no hand in that; that was a crime of National Socialism.
by Farnhamia » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:40 pm
by Shofercia » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:21 pm
Far Easter Republic wrote:A)Never herd of him
B)He sounds like Gaddafi 2.0
Badb Catha wrote:This is welcome news. Libya is to belong once more to the Libyan Berbers - free of Wahhabist and Western interference, hopefully.
First American Empire wrote:I don't care who* wins, I just want the war to be over. The Libyan Civil War has gone on long enough. If Haftar can win the war, at least it'll bring peace.
*As long as its not theocratic extremists, but the National Salvation Government doesn't stand a chance anyway.
Vetalia wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI
Thanks Peace Price Barry and Hillary, you did a heckuva job!
Duhon wrote:Can we just say Gadhafi is a sun-addled piece of shit who's getting the bishie sparkle treatment now due to what succeeded his dead trussed ass?
by Shofercia » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:28 pm
Costa Fierro wrote:Shofercia wrote:What does NSG say?
The West already likes him enough to help him so it's...meh. Dictatorships beget violence and violence begets dictatorships.
Aureumterra wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It was also one of the wealthiest and safest countries on the entire continent and was just generally a pretty modern nation.
What the EU did to Libya is right up there with how we handled Iraq.
Libya was on its way to becoming a “rich dictatorship”, and Qaddafi was far more libertarian than other dictators. In fact, I think if his regime had gone on, he would’ve either declared democracy like Pinochet or his death would’ve brought democracy, like Post-Franco Spain
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:1) May Allah SWT bring Al-Islam back into Libya, aameen
2) May Allah SWT bring peace back into Libya, aameen
3) May Allah SWT make whoever wins over Libya a great Muslim leader, aameen
4) Qadhaafi was cool.
Soviet Computocracy wrote:A general winning a civil war, who would have guessed
by Thermodolia » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:21 pm
Duhon wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:
No. There was no migrant crisis when Ghaddafi was still kicking. Libya was better in 2009 than it is right now.
It was an authoritarian hellhole in 2009. Say what you will of what came after Gadhafi, and I certainly won't claim it's now better -- just a differently flavored turd, something I wouldn't wish on Libyans of this or any other generation, let alone the rest of the world.
by Costa Fierro » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:41 pm
Shofercia wrote:Ouch! That's like a dagger to the heart of the UN Government. If he lets half of the UN approved Government escape to Tunis, and tars the other half, he'll live up to his name - Haftar.
by New Sukberia » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:43 pm
by Page » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:43 pm
by Page » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:45 pm
New Sukberia wrote:That's what happens to dictators. They get destroyed.
by Duhon » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:24 am
Thermodolia wrote:Duhon wrote:
It was an authoritarian hellhole in 2009. Say what you will of what came after Gadhafi, and I certainly won't claim it's now better -- just a differently flavored turd, something I wouldn't wish on Libyans of this or any other generation, let alone the rest of the world.
A stable authoritarian hell hole is better than anarchy
by New Sukberia » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:35 am
Dresderstan wrote:We should have never tried to get rid of Gaddafi anyway.
by New Sukberia » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:39 am
Slotted Floppies wrote:Libya should be returned to Italy to administer. With stable governance being good for Libya and a place for economic migrants to live good for Italy.
by Page » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:05 am
New Sukberia wrote:It's awful, and i hate Salvini, but unironically this.
by New Sukberia » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:07 am
by Risottia » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:33 am
Badb Catha wrote:This is welcome news. Libya is to belong once more to the Libyan Berbers -
free of Wahhabist and Western interference, hopefully.
by Risottia » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:36 am
Slotted Floppies wrote:Libya should be returned to Italy to administer.
With stable governance being good for Libya and a place for economic migrants to live good for Italy.
by Duhon » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:38 am
Risottia wrote:Here's a deal: how about we dump M5S and LN (both politicians and supporters) in Libya, and we take in all the migrants currently detained by the Libyan slavers?
by New Sukberia » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:39 am
by Duhon » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:43 am
New Sukberia wrote:Page wrote:
Colonialism made this mess in the first place 100 years ago. Half the conflict in the Middle East traces its lineage back to Sykes-Picot.
CORRECTION:
Contries made-up by our (the West) lazy attemps at decolonisation, made this mess. Had we Balkanise countries like Irak or Syria, then they would be no inter-ethnic / religious conflicts.
by New Sukberia » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:46 am
Duhon wrote:New Sukberia wrote:CORRECTION:
Contries made-up by our (the West) lazy attemps at decolonisation, made this mess. Had we Balkanise countries like Irak or Syria, then they would be no inter-ethnic / religious conflicts.
No, there still would be, only instead of just Iraq and Syria there'd be six more. At some point ya gotta dance what brung ya, and the Middle East has done all but piss on that front.
by Panslavicland » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:49 am
by New haven america » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:49 am
New Sukberia wrote:Page wrote:
Colonialism made this mess in the first place 100 years ago. Half the conflict in the Middle East traces its lineage back to Sykes-Picot.
CORRECTION:
Contries made-up by our (the West) lazy attemps at decolonisation, made this mess. Had we Balkanise countries like Irak or Syria, then they would be no inter-ethnic / religious conflicts.
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