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To what ethical philosophy do you subscribe?

Ethical Egoism
12
11%
Act Utilitarianism
7
6%
Rule Utilitarianism
7
6%
Kantian Ethics
6
5%
Virtue Ethics
19
17%
Nihilism/YOLO
18
16%
Radical Subjectivism
2
2%
Cultural Relativism
3
3%
Divine Command Theory
18
16%
Natural Law Theory
20
18%
 
Total votes : 112

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Postby Novus America » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:48 am

Yusseria wrote:
Greater Westralia wrote:For me it was quite the opposite actually. Rome is overhyped and overcrowded.

Greece however... ahh, now that's civilisation.

Spoken like someone who's never visited Palatine Hill.


It is in really bad shape and much of it you cannot access.
Rome is not that glorious anymore after a very long time of mismanagement and neglect.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Greater Westralia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:51 am

Novus America wrote:It is in really bad shape and much of it you cannot access.
Rome is not the glorious anymore after a very long time of mismanagement and neglect.

Athens is without question the superior Classical city.

The city and the sights are beautiful and steeped with history, and Greek cuisine beats Italian any day of the week. Not to forget that it's only a bus tour away from Olympus and Thermopylae, to mention two examples.
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Postby Novus America » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:29 am

Greater Westralia wrote:
Novus America wrote:It is in really bad shape and much of it you cannot access.
Rome is not the glorious anymore after a very long time of mismanagement and neglect.

Athens is without question the superior Classical city.

The city and the sights are beautiful and steeped with history, and Greek cuisine beats Italian any day of the week. Not to forget that it's only a bus tour away from Olympus and Thermopylae, to mention two examples.


I have never been to Athens. I did go to Crete but much of the main city was pretty run down too. Greece has been through some pretty rough times and horrible governance as well.

Neither country has properly maintained most of its classical sites unfortunately and both countries are very mismanaged.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Totally Not OEP » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:23 am

Novus America wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Spoken like someone who's never visited Palatine Hill.


It is in really bad shape and much of it you cannot access.
Rome is not that glorious anymore after a very long time of mismanagement and neglect.


A metaphor for the West at large.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:31 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Novus America wrote:
It is in really bad shape and much of it you cannot access.
Rome is not that glorious anymore after a very long time of mismanagement and neglect.


A metaphor for the West at large.


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Postby Totally Not OEP » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:36 am

Valrifell wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
A metaphor for the West at large.


That'll happen when the right wing comes a-knockin.


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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:42 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
That'll happen when the right wing comes a-knockin.


Vengeance comes with blades of steel covered in the blood of the enemies.


Oh dear, I believe that I cut myself by mistake on all of that edge. :p
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:45 am

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
Vengeance comes with blades of steel covered in the blood of the enemies.


Oh dear, I believe that I cut myself by mistake on all of that edge. :p


That means the fash is winning!
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Postby The Feylands » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:49 am

Benuty wrote:So this woman made an opinion piece so stupid I simply had to make a thread on it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/20 ... 36076.html


by Clémence Michallon


Seriously. You see this and the first thing you react to is the fact that she's a woman? She's a goddamn FRENCH woman. :o :roll: What did you expect? :p

The French have since long had hubris. They wanna stay relevant and pretend they're still a global power. Which they thankfully, are not. :)

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Postby The Feylands » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:15 am

Just read a bunch of stories about the founder of the "Silk road" black cybermarket... who is currently serving a life sentence.

https://www.wired.com/2015/02/read-transcript-silk-roads-boss-ordering-5-assassinations/

https://www.thewhig.com/2013/10/06/in-my-mind-he-also-murdered-my-son/wcm/c70c0f87-e45f-80f1-3c0b-aaacc23ae53c

In my eyes, FriendlyChemist is a liability and I wouldn't mind if he was executed, but then you'd be out your $700k. I don't think he is going to come up with the money because he seems very desperate. I'm not sure how much you already know about the guy, but I have the following info and am waiting on getting his address: [bunch of doxx]


The drugs that killed Edwards — cocaine, heroin, ecstasy and the hallucinogen DMT — were bought from Silk Road, a website that operates in a shadowy area of the Internet that thrives on anonymity.

Federal Bureau of Investigation officers in San Francisco Tuesday arrested Ross William Ulbricht, 29, known as “Dread Pirate Roberts,” who allegedly runs Silk Road.

Federal prosecutors in New York charged Ulbricht with one count each of narcotics trafficking conspiracy, computer hacking conspiracy and money laundering conspiracy.

Ulbricht is accused of trying to hire a hitman to kill someone who was threatening to expose the identities of thousands of users of the website.

For Smith, the arrest was a personal victory.

“In my mind, he also murdered my son,” she said.

Edwards had been diagnosed with a series of mental illnesses, including psychosis, bipolar, social anxiety and personality disorders, ADD and Asperger’s syndrome.

Eight years of living with a changing mental illness diagnosis and treatment, left Edwards depressed.

He became a shut in and turned to an underground area of the Internet known as the Dark Web or Deep Web to buy illegal drugs.


Okay.. now I feel like I sympathize with having capital punishment for drug trafficking. What a **** psychopath, that dude. >:(

I mean I'm still kinda impressed by the heavy handed way American justice handed the guy but it feels like no one in the west actually seriously wants to take a firm stance to get rid of this... like they do in China and in Singapore, for instance. :(

In this instance, just like on the issue of religious cults, it really feels like China cares more about the most vulnerable in society that most western countries following the stupid ideology of all people being "rational individuals", ever do. >:( :(

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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:26 am

Germanic Templars wrote:For those wondering, new imperial era will start on May 1st and will be called the Reiwa (令和) era.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-47769566


Reiwa 令和
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Postby Germanic Templars » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:55 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:For those wondering, new imperial era will start on May 1st and will be called the Reiwa (令和) era.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-47769566


Reiwa 令和
Reiwa 令和

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Did I goof on the kanji? :unsure:

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Postby Novus America » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:59 am

Germanic Templars wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
Reiwa 令和
Reiwa 令和

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Did I goof on the kanji? :unsure:


No, she sometimes goes by Rei.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:24 am

Novus America wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
Did I goof on the kanji? :unsure:


No, she sometimes goes by Rei.


Different character but it's a homonym with my RL name.

But that's not going to stop my ego. :p
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:28 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Novus America wrote:
No, she sometimes goes by Rei.


Different character but it's a homonym with my RL name.

But that's not going to stop my ego. :p

All Hail Empress Hana?

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Postby Novus America » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:39 am

Genivaria wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
Different character but it's a homonym with my RL name.

But that's not going to stop my ego. :p

All Hail Empress Hana?


Seriously though, if the Japanese Emperor is supposedly descended from the Sun Goddess, excluding women makes zero sense.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:48 am

Novus America wrote:
Genivaria wrote:All Hail Empress Hana?


Seriously though, if the Japanese Emperor is supposedly descended from the Sun Goddess, excluding women makes zero sense.

It's also killing the House of Yamato. Since the New Constitution became a thing the Imperial Family have gone from 12 branches to 1 and women are being excluded upon their marriage on a regular basis. With 3 females and 1 male in the next generation there's going to be a time where HIH Prince Hisahito will be the last member to be legally allowed to propagate the House. Shit started with Meiji really, what with the Salic Law thing in a country where most newborns are female and excluding concubines.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:53 am

Genivaria wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
Different character but it's a homonym with my RL name.

But that's not going to stop my ego. :p

All Hail Empress Hana?

Chronicles of RWDT wrote:Because her conduct was virtuous and her spirit empty, 白髪天皇's reign penetrated through the four directions and subdued the barbarians from other lands.

Novus America wrote:
Genivaria wrote:All Hail Empress Hana?


Seriously though, if the Japanese Emperor is supposedly descended from the Sun Goddess, excluding women makes zero sense.


Because the imperial line is patrilineal, being traced back to Emperor Jimmu, and through him, Ninigi-no-Mikoto.

Bear in mind, back when women became emperors, there were less strict views about incest, and a lot of the wives of emperors were their half-sisters, aunts, or nieces. No one wants to bring that back, therefore it's best that the succession remains male.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:58 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Seriously though, if the Japanese Emperor is supposedly descended from the Sun Goddess, excluding women makes zero sense.

It's also killing the House of Yamato. Since the New Constitution became a thing the Imperial Family have gone from 12 branches to 1 and women are being excluded upon their marriage on a regular basis. With 3 females and 1 male in the next generation there's going to be a time where HIH Prince Hisahito will be the last member to be legally allowed to propagate the House. Shit started with Meiji really, what with the Salic Law thing in a country where most newborns are female and excluding concubines.


The simplest and most traditional solution is to restore the imperial cadet branches which would mean that the pool of candidates would be considerably expanded. The problem isn't the Meiji Period, it's the fact that the constitution whittled the imperial household down into a nuclear family which made succession unsustainable. Perhaps an intentional act.
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Postby Novus America » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:09 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Genivaria wrote:All Hail Empress Hana?

Chronicles of RWDT wrote:Because her conduct was virtuous and her spirit empty, 白髪天皇's reign penetrated through the four directions and subdued the barbarians from other lands.

Novus America wrote:
Seriously though, if the Japanese Emperor is supposedly descended from the Sun Goddess, excluding women makes zero sense.


Because the imperial line is patrilineal, being traced back to Emperor Jimmu, and through him, Ninigi-no-Mikoto.

Bear in mind, back when women became emperors, there were less strict views about incest, and a lot of the wives of emperors were their half-sisters, aunts, or nieces. No one wants to bring that back, therefore it's best that the succession remains male.


This is a total non sequitur. Having a woman on the throne does in no way mean they would start banging their brothers or something. It does not have to be patrilineal, and if it stays so there may be no Japanese imperial family left.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:30 am

Novus America wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:


Because the imperial line is patrilineal, being traced back to Emperor Jimmu, and through him, Ninigi-no-Mikoto.

Bear in mind, back when women became emperors, there were less strict views about incest, and a lot of the wives of emperors were their half-sisters, aunts, or nieces. No one wants to bring that back, therefore it's best that the succession remains male.


This is a total non sequitur. Having a woman on the throne does in no way mean they would start banging their brothers or something. It does not have to be patrilineal, and if it stays so there may be no Japanese imperial family left.


It does because the imperial throne cannot pass to a child who is not a member of the male line, this has been an enshrined commandment for 2000 years of the imperial household's history, and while you might not care, those of us who actually care about the monarchy do. The same law that would need to be changed to allow female inheritors of the throne would just as easily be changed to reinstate former members of the imperial household, and I've already explained why that is more viable.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:42 am

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Essentially, this.

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Bear Stearns wrote:If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?

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