Too much over-saturation of him I guess, well it happens to the best of us.
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by Dresderstan » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:38 pm

by Washington Resistance Army » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:39 am

by Mystic Warriors » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:23 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So, Trump did jump the gun on this, but the SDF has just declared 100% territorial defeat of the Islamic State. They're far from gone but the days of the Caliphate and a pseudo-nation are over.

by Vassenor » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:32 am
Mystic Warriors wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:So, Trump did jump the gun on this, but the SDF has just declared 100% territorial defeat of the Islamic State. They're far from gone but the days of the Caliphate and a pseudo-nation are over.
Trump had sqwat to do with that. He is taking credit for somebody else's work.

by Washington Resistance Army » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:46 am

by Vassenor » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:49 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nice to see that even the destruction of an actually genocidal nation that has committed the worst sort of atrocities for half a decade still only warrants an Orange Man Bad.

by Mystic Warriors » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:03 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nice to see that even the destruction of an actually genocidal nation that has committed the worst sort of atrocities for half a decade still only warrants an Orange Man Bad.

by Gravlen » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:15 am
Yusseria wrote:Mueller isn't recommending any further indictments.
How long until he gets called a Russian shill?

by Definitely Not Trumptonium » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:20 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nice to see that even the destruction of an actually genocidal nation that has committed the worst sort of atrocities for half a decade still only warrants an Orange Man Bad.

by The Huskar Social Union » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:23 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nice to see that even the destruction of an actually genocidal nation that has committed the worst sort of atrocities for half a decade still only warrants an Orange Man Bad.

by Mystic Warriors » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:30 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nice to see that even the destruction of an actually genocidal nation that has committed the worst sort of atrocities for half a decade still only warrants an Orange Man Bad.
He didnt destroy ISIS, US efforts helped, both under Obama and Trumps administration, but he didnt do it solely and more credit goes to the local armies who did most of the fighting and yes trump deserves some.

by Thuzbekistan » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:19 am

by Ifreann » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:33 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nice to see that even the destruction of an actually genocidal nation that has committed the worst sort of atrocities for half a decade still only warrants an Orange Man Bad.

by Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:37 am
Thuzbekistan wrote:
He does get some credit. He really upped US involvement for a bit. But the VAST, OVERWHELMING majority goes to the local groups who died fighting the world's latest and greatest evil. We should be dumping billions into helping them rebuild and try working with the UN to send peacekeepers while peace between the various armies and the Syrian government is negotiated. But our president is too "america first" for that.

by Zurkerx » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:53 am

by Valrifell » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:20 am
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Thuzbekistan wrote:He does get some credit. He really upped US involvement for a bit. But the VAST, OVERWHELMING majority goes to the local groups who died fighting the world's latest and greatest evil. We should be dumping billions into helping them rebuild and try working with the UN to send peacekeepers while peace between the various armies and the Syrian government is negotiated. But our president is too "america first" for that.
Friendly reminder that some unsavoury folk on NSG would unironically wish for Assad’s removal despite the fact that it would cause a second civil war.

by Yusseria » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:25 am
Mystic Warriors wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nice to see that even the destruction of an actually genocidal nation that has committed the worst sort of atrocities for half a decade still only warrants an Orange Man Bad.
Because it's wrong to dislike it when someone takes credit for somebody else's work? I will not applaud him for work he did not do.

by Seangoli » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:21 am

by Yusseria » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:24 am
Seangoli wrote:Yusseria wrote:Who's work, exactly?
Various local groups, militias, and militaries included thosenfrom Iran, Iraq, Syria, etx. The US played an jmportant support role, but almost the entirety of the actual fighting was by local Shiite, Khurdish, and organized military groups.
ISIS likely would have fallen without our help, though it likely would have taken longer.

by Seangoli » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:29 am
Yusseria wrote:Seangoli wrote:
Various local groups, militias, and militaries included thosenfrom Iran, Iraq, Syria, etx. The US played an jmportant support role, but almost the entirety of the actual fighting was by local Shiite, Khurdish, and organized military groups.
ISIS likely would have fallen without our help, though it likely would have taken longer.
US-backed coalition forces, you mean?

by Yusseria » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:33 am
Seangoli wrote:Yusseria wrote:US-backed coalition forces, you mean?
Some yes, others not so much. ISIS managed to piss everyone off, including rivals.
And the coalition forces aren't really Trump's doing. They existed before he was President, and ISIS was contracting before him. Some of his policies did help, but it is disingenuous to give him actual credit for defeating ISIS. ISIS's days were numbered before he ever stepped foot in the White House, he just reduced those days by an amount that is difficult to quantify.

by Conserative Morality » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:35 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nice to see that even the destruction of an actually genocidal nation that has committed the worst sort of atrocities for half a decade still only warrants an Orange Man Bad.

by Brittany Normandy Aquitaine » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:39 am
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