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Postby Vassenor » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:45 pm

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Some people will call anything that demonstrates Trump wrongdoing partisan. That's how strong their reality distortion field is.


Reasonable people: "Partisan witch hunts are partisan."
Vass: "Muh distorshun feeld"


So what makes this a partisan witch hunt beyond Trump screaming about it being one?
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Postby Telconi » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:49 pm

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Reasonable people: "Partisan witch hunts are partisan."
Vass: "Muh distorshun feeld"

Telconi: "Partisan witch hunts"
Reasonable people: "Mueller is a Republican as was Rosenstein"


So?
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Postby Telconi » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:49 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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Reasonable people: "Partisan witch hunts are partisan."
Vass: "Muh distorshun feeld"


So what makes this a partisan witch hunt beyond Trump screaming about it being one?


The part where it's an open ended search for wrongdoing being pushed for partisan gain.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:50 pm

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Liriena wrote:Telconi: "Partisan witch hunts"
Reasonable people: "Mueller is a Republican as was Rosenstein"


So?


So what makes this a partisan witch hunt beyond Trump screaming about how it totally is one?
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:00 pm

Telconi wrote:
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So what makes this a partisan witch hunt beyond Trump screaming about it being one?


The part where it's an open ended search for wrongdoing being pushed for partisan gain.

For the open-endedness: it was not. It was a deliberate search for evidence with regards to the Russian interference in the 2016 election, for which there was plenty for information. What were we supposed to do with that information, perform no investigation at all?

Also, it was not pushed for partisan gain. It would have been installed regardless of who was in charge, because both parties would want to get to the bottom of Russian interference in an election.

So far, it has uncovered numerous serious criminals, so the investigation has at least been a bit effective. It has already succeeded.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:04 pm

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So what makes this a partisan witch hunt beyond Trump screaming about it being one?


The part where it's an open ended search for wrongdoing being pushed for partisan gain.


We're talking about the Mueller probe, not Benghazi or Hillary's Emails.
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:52 pm

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The South Falls wrote:Well, not yet.

No it’s pretty telling. I’m 99% sure that Trump is clear of any wrongdoing.


I have to agree. Obstruction of Justice is difficult to prove and I have faith Mueller executed with fairness. However, that doesn't mean the report can still be politically damaging, which is quite possible. There's also the investigations from Manhattan and Congress too which pose a greater threat. Let's see what the report and these investigations has to offer.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:15 pm

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The Manhattan Investigations are looking into financial crimes and whether campaign finance laws were violated. If he's innocent, they'll clear him and his family. If not, you can bet they'll indict him once he leaves office, and or, go after his kids and associates. And I doubt they are partisan, that's mere attempts of undermining the investigation.


He didn't say they're partisan, he said it will look partisan, and he's right. It'll be stupidly easy for Trump to spin any charges by SDNY as nothing more than angry Democrats still trying to get him after their collusion narrative failed.


It didn't fail, he successfully tainted it via obstruction of justice.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:16 pm

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He didn't say they're partisan, he said it will look partisan, and he's right. It'll be stupidly easy for Trump to spin any charges by SDNY as nothing more than angry Democrats still trying to get him after their collusion narrative failed.


It didn't fail, he successfully tainted it via obstruction of justice.


Mueller's team has already said none of their requests were ever denied or in any real way impeded. This is literal fake news.
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Postby Yusseria » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:23 pm

Mueller isn't recommending any further indictments.

How long until he gets called a Russian shill?
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Postby Yusseria » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:26 pm

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It didn't fail, he successfully tainted it via obstruction of justice.


Mueller's team has already said none of their requests were ever denied or in any real way impeded. This is literal fake news.

It's best not to even pay attention to Mystic Warriors. He just throws around baseless accusations.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:27 pm

Yusseria wrote:Mueller isn't recommending any further indictments.

How long until he gets called a Russian shill?


Well I wasn't until you said something.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:29 pm

Yusseria wrote:
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Mueller's team has already said none of their requests were ever denied or in any real way impeded. This is literal fake news.

It's best not to even pay attention to Mystic Warriors. He just throws around baseless accusations.

That thing you're doing right there? Don't.
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:11 pm

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The Manhattan Investigations are looking into financial crimes and whether campaign finance laws were violated. If he's innocent, they'll clear him and his family. If not, you can bet they'll indict him once he leaves office, and or, go after his kids and associates. And I doubt they are partisan, that's mere attempts of undermining the investigation.


He didn't say they're partisan, he said it will look partisan, and he's right. It'll be stupidly easy for Trump to spin any charges by SDNY as nothing more than angry Democrats still trying to get him after their collusion narrative failed.


Perhaps. You can make that argument with the Democrats in Congress but the SDNY is not partisan in my mind. Mueller handed over anything not related to his investigation over to the SDNY, which has uncovered somethings regarding Trump's businesses and the so-called hush money (and also RICO and other crimes). Now, whether Trump is charged remains to be seen but like Mueller's, have full faith that they will execute the law fairly. If he did nothing wrong, then he's clear, simple as that, and I'll wait to see what the evidence says before I say he's guilty or not.
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Postby Tobleste » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:36 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... te-crimes/

We found that counties that had hosted a 2016 Trump campaign rally saw a 226 percent increase in reported hate crimes over comparable counties that did not host such a rally.


Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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The Manhattan Investigations are looking into financial crimes and whether campaign finance laws were violated. If he's innocent, they'll clear him and his family. If not, you can bet they'll indict him once he leaves office, and or, go after his kids and associates. And I doubt they are partisan, that's mere attempts of undermining the investigation.


He didn't say they're partisan, he said it will look partisan, and he's right. It'll be stupidly easy for Trump to spin any charges by SDNY as nothing more than angry Democrats still trying to get him after their collusion narrative failed.


By now, the same could be applied to Mueller's report given that Fox has already turned on it. Any charges against trump would be seen by his base as partisan.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:20 pm

Sad thing is now pompeo is trying to claim Trump was sent from God to protect Israel. Is his administration gone that crazy? To even agree with such a notion that God would support such a heathen is sinful.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:34 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:Sad thing is now pompeo is trying to claim Trump was sent from God to protect Israel. Is his administration gone that crazy? To even agree with such a notion that God would support such a heathen is sinful.

Well we all know Trump is the peak of Christian goodness, it’s not like he’s a liar who manipulated the evangelical vote
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:45 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:Sad thing is now pompeo is trying to claim Trump was sent from God to protect Israel. Is his administration gone that crazy? To even agree with such a notion that God would support such a heathen is sinful.

Tbf God is pretty hard to predict
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:47 pm

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Mystic Warriors wrote:Sad thing is now pompeo is trying to claim Trump was sent from God to protect Israel. Is his administration gone that crazy? To even agree with such a notion that God would support such a heathen is sinful.

Tbf God is pretty hard to predict


Nah fam, clearly those dudes who wrote the Bible knew his intentions crystal fucking clear.

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Postby Valrifell » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:50 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Tbf God is pretty hard to predict


Nah fam, clearly those dudes who wrote the Bible knew his intentions crystal fucking clear.


If your religion is based on the schtick that God's intentions are super unclear or that he doesn't know what he's doing, do you really have a religion at all?
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:55 pm

Valrifell wrote:
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Nah fam, clearly those dudes who wrote the Bible knew his intentions crystal fucking clear.


If your religion is based on the schtick that God's intentions are super unclear or that he doesn't know what he's doing, do you really have a religion at all?

that just sounds like you're worshiping the god of chaos
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:56 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
If your religion is based on the schtick that God's intentions are super unclear or that he doesn't know what he's doing, do you really have a religion at all?

that just sounds like you're worshiping the god of chaos


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Postby Valrifell » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:03 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:that just sounds like you're worshiping the god of chaos


Sorry, I don’t worship Discord.


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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:36 pm

Valrifell wrote:
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Nah fam, clearly those dudes who wrote the Bible knew his intentions crystal fucking clear.


If your religion is based on the schtick that God's intentions are super unclear or that he doesn't know what he's doing, do you really have a religion at all?



Not too hard to figure out.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:37 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:Sad thing is now pompeo is trying to claim Trump was sent from God to protect Israel. Is his administration gone that crazy? To even agree with such a notion that God would support such a heathen is sinful.

Tbf God is pretty hard to predict



Too some, yes.
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