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by Kaystein » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:16 pm
Eternal Lotharia wrote:You mistake my impression.
I see this as a rallying cry and inspiration for a lot more shootings, and Breitbart has flocked to it, which makes it dangerous.
I don't consider it Sarejevo.
I consider it Bosnia.
Using Austria-Hungary as an example.
It's a ticking time bomb. It won't directly cause it, but inspire and cause people to do it more, causing more of what he wanted.
CrvenaParsa wrote:Are you implying that New Zealanders are more docile?
by San Lumen » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:17 pm
Kaystein wrote:Eternal Lotharia wrote:You mistake my impression.
I see this as a rallying cry and inspiration for a lot more shootings, and Breitbart has flocked to it, which makes it dangerous.
I don't consider it Sarejevo.
I consider it Bosnia.
Using Austria-Hungary as an example.
It's a ticking time bomb. It won't directly cause it, but inspire and cause people to do it more, causing more of what he wanted.
Alright, but don't ignore what's in my last post to you because of that mistake. If you're concerned about this being a ticking time bomb, then fight against the groups of racists online that want it to happen.CrvenaParsa wrote:Are you implying that New Zealanders are more docile?
Refer to my last reply toward Fedel.
I'm not implying New Zealanders are docile. They're doing plenty already to prove they're the opposite in fact. If they were docile, their responses toward the Christchurch tragedy would be much less than what it is.
If this happened in the US it would have been televised for a few days by news channels looking to profit off of other's misery (like they're doing anyway), there would be vigils for the victims and people posting to their social media "thoughts and prayers." Then life would go on as if it never happened.
Like what happened after Sandy Hook or Orlando, which pisses me off about my country. Some heated debates that go nowhere.
That's not the case for New Zealand. Again, there will very likely be new legislation on gun control there. Again, I suspect that it will be welcomed.
Which is a very good thing. Good on you New Zealand for not shoving your heads into the sand after what happened. Good on Australia for banning Milo Yiannopoulos from their country too. With any luck, the far-right white supremacist movements there will stay as nothing more than lunatic fringe groups for decades to come, as they should be.
by Kaystein » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:22 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I was around when the meme was started, it was started by autistic people to make light of how normal people don't get them.
by Fedel » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:23 pm
Kaystein wrote:Fedel wrote:
You haven't responded to my post as far as I'm aware. Mind telling me the post number or the page where you responded?
I meant Sovaal. I'll reply to you in a little while, Fedel. You made some good questions that deserve answers.United Muscovite Nations wrote:I was around when the meme was started, it was started by autistic people to make light of how normal people don't get them.
I haven't seen anything that could reinforce this. I'd like to believe you though, so could you post a link to anything that would support your post?
by Natanya » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:31 pm
Kaystein wrote:Eternal Lotharia wrote:You mistake my impression.
I see this as a rallying cry and inspiration for a lot more shootings, and Breitbart has flocked to it, which makes it dangerous.
I don't consider it Sarejevo.
I consider it Bosnia.
Using Austria-Hungary as an example.
It's a ticking time bomb. It won't directly cause it, but inspire and cause people to do it more, causing more of what he wanted.
Alright, but don't ignore what's in my last post to you because of that mistake. If you're concerned about this being a ticking time bomb, then fight against the groups of racists online that want it to happen.CrvenaParsa wrote:Are you implying that New Zealanders are more docile?
Refer to my last reply toward Sovaal
I'm not implying New Zealanders are docile. They're doing plenty already to prove they're the opposite in fact. If they were docile, their responses toward the Christchurch tragedy would be much less than what it is.
If this happened in the US it would have been televised for a few days by news channels looking to profit off of other's misery (like they're doing anyway), there would be vigils for the victims and people posting to their social media "thoughts and prayers." Then life would go on as if it never happened.
Like what happened after Sandy Hook or Orlando, which pisses me off about my country. Some heated debates that go nowhere.
That's not the case for New Zealand. Again, there will very likely be new legislation on gun control there. Again, I suspect that it will be welcomed.
Which is a very good thing. Good on you New Zealand for not shoving your heads into the sand after what happened. Good on Australia for banning Milo Yiannopoulos from their country too. With any luck, the far-right white supremacist movements there will stay as nothing more than lunatic fringe groups for decades to come, as they should be.
by United Muscovite Nations » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:34 pm
Kaystein wrote:Fedel wrote:
You haven't responded to my post as far as I'm aware. Mind telling me the post number or the page where you responded?
I meant Sovaal. I'll reply to you in a little while, Fedel. You made some good questions that deserve answers.United Muscovite Nations wrote:I was around when the meme was started, it was started by autistic people to make light of how normal people don't get them.
I haven't seen anything that could reinforce this. I'd like to believe you though, so could you post a link to anything that would support your post?
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by Licana » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:39 pm
Kaystein wrote:Like what happened after Sandy Hook or Orlando, which pisses me off about my country. Some heated debates that go nowhere.
That's not the case for New Zealand. Again, there will very likely be new legislation on gun control there. Again, I suspect that it will be welcomed.
Which is a very good thing. Good on you New Zealand for not shoving your heads into the sand after what happened.
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by Uxupox » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:45 pm
San Lumen wrote:Kaystein wrote:
Alright, but don't ignore what's in my last post to you because of that mistake. If you're concerned about this being a ticking time bomb, then fight against the groups of racists online that want it to happen.
Refer to my last reply toward Fedel.
I'm not implying New Zealanders are docile. They're doing plenty already to prove they're the opposite in fact. If they were docile, their responses toward the Christchurch tragedy would be much less than what it is.
If this happened in the US it would have been televised for a few days by news channels looking to profit off of other's misery (like they're doing anyway), there would be vigils for the victims and people posting to their social media "thoughts and prayers." Then life would go on as if it never happened.
Like what happened after Sandy Hook or Orlando, which pisses me off about my country. Some heated debates that go nowhere.
That's not the case for New Zealand. Again, there will very likely be new legislation on gun control there. Again, I suspect that it will be welcomed.
Which is a very good thing. Good on you New Zealand for not shoving your heads into the sand after what happened. Good on Australia for banning Milo Yiannopoulos from their country too. With any luck, the far-right white supremacist movements there will stay as nothing more than lunatic fringe groups for decades to come, as they should be.
New Zealand doesnt have the NRA who oppose and and all gun legislation. Thats why they will change their law.
by Scomagia » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:57 pm
by Sovaal » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:11 pm
You have any sources that show the amount of turned in firearms compared to those same type of firearms that where likely owned before the ban?Kaystein wrote:Sovaal wrote:
So you’re talking out of your ass here?
I edited the quote for you since you didn't seem inclined to do it.
Do I talk out of my ass?
The answer to that question is no. I do not.
I based my text you're referring to on what I read about the Australian government's response to the 1996 Port Arthur Massacre.
Here, I have an article that could be enlightening for you: https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... ol/541710/
I'll cite one part of the article now."My colleague Uri Friedman wrote about the impact of the Port Arthur massacre in the wake of the shooting in San Bernardino, California in 2015. He noted that, among other things, the Australian government “banned automatic and semiautomatic firearms, adopted new licensing requirements, established a national firearms registry, and instituted a 28-day waiting period for gun purchases. It also bought and destroyed more than 600,000 civilian-owned firearms, in a scheme that cost half a billion dollars and was funded by raising taxes.” The entire overhaul, Friedman pointed out, took just months to implement."
So in reference to this, what I meant was that if New Zealand's government employed a similar response in which it bought and destroyed firearms that would be banned by gun control legislation, it would be way more likely to be a success because of New Zealand's proximity to Australia and the culture the two countries share in comparison to the United States and how successful a similar response would be in the US realistically.
by Sovaal » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:12 pm
by Kaystein » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:16 pm
Fedel wrote:How do you propose we glean out people who may have supported the shooting? Or are you suggesting something akin to "casting out a wide net" that would catch these people but also potentially catch up people who didn't? If so, is this something you'd be alright with?
Fedel wrote:Also, do you believe that radical Muslims or other people of religions/ideologies who "support" the use of violence or murder on people who go against their beliefs should also be banned from the site?
Fedel wrote:I think you're playing with fire here when you start talking about censorship/discriminating against people for their beliefs tbh. I think people who support such measures are the people who created the NZ shooters in the first place.
by CrvenaParsa » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:30 pm
by Telconi » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:33 pm
San Lumen wrote:Kaystein wrote:
Alright, but don't ignore what's in my last post to you because of that mistake. If you're concerned about this being a ticking time bomb, then fight against the groups of racists online that want it to happen.
Refer to my last reply toward Fedel.
I'm not implying New Zealanders are docile. They're doing plenty already to prove they're the opposite in fact. If they were docile, their responses toward the Christchurch tragedy would be much less than what it is.
If this happened in the US it would have been televised for a few days by news channels looking to profit off of other's misery (like they're doing anyway), there would be vigils for the victims and people posting to their social media "thoughts and prayers." Then life would go on as if it never happened.
Like what happened after Sandy Hook or Orlando, which pisses me off about my country. Some heated debates that go nowhere.
That's not the case for New Zealand. Again, there will very likely be new legislation on gun control there. Again, I suspect that it will be welcomed.
Which is a very good thing. Good on you New Zealand for not shoving your heads into the sand after what happened. Good on Australia for banning Milo Yiannopoulos from their country too. With any luck, the far-right white supremacist movements there will stay as nothing more than lunatic fringe groups for decades to come, as they should be.
New Zealand doesnt have the NRA who oppose and and all gun legislation. Thats why they will change their law.
by Esternial » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:33 pm
CrvenaParsa wrote:It's clear that mass diversity is a sham, maybe this will be a wake up call to western governments and their subversive backers
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