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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:12 pm

Amuaplye wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Replying to @nzpolice
Police can now confirm the lock down of schools throughout Christchurch has been lifted. We would like to reassure members of the public that there is a large Police presence in the city and the safety of the community is our priority.

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12:57 PM - Mar 15, 2019


Ultimately, it seems to be over now..

Dead? Wounded? Or is that still unknown?


It won't be confirmed until they have all the victims.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:12 pm

Bombadil wrote:Replying to @nzpolice
Police can now confirm the lock down of schools throughout Christchurch has been lifted. We would like to reassure members of the public that there is a large Police presence in the city and the safety of the community is our priority.

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Ultimately, it seems to be over now..

Well, at least it’s winding down...
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:12 pm

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Scomagia wrote:Neither is "durr, your fan did something bad! You need to evaluate your content!"

Actually, yeah, it is. Communication is a complex process and the person speaking doesn't have a lot of control over what meaning those listening assign to their words, but that doesn't mean that the speaker is 100% absolved of any responsibility in the process of creating meaning. The listeners didn't just make the words up, and the meaning they derived from them came, in at least some part, from their content and the way in which the speaker expressed it.

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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:12 pm

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The Black Party wrote:My source is the shooter's POV footage of the massacre. I don't need some aristocratic bureaucrat or an "OP" to explain to me what is confirmed or what is not.

The shooter said, and I quote, "Remember, subscribe to Pewdiepie" before driving to the shooting. That is factual.

Then you won’t mind linking said source and newspaper right? Because otherwise I’m not gonna believe a damn thing you say without a source


He says it.

Too link the source, would mean him giving you the video. Take his word. Iv'e seen the video, it is true.
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:12 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Black Party wrote:My source is the shooter's POV footage of the massacre. I don't need some aristocratic bureaucrat or an "OP" to explain to me what is confirmed or what is not.

The shooter said, and I quote, "Remember, subscribe to Pewdiepie" before driving to the shooting. That is factual.

Then you won’t mind linking said source and newspaper right? Because otherwise I’m not gonna believe a damn thing you say without a source

You can find the footage on your own. I'm not linking it because nobody else has, and I'm not sure if it infringes NS rules.

Did you even read what I said? It's raw footage from the shooter's livestream. Not a newspaper.
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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:12 pm

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Amuaplye wrote:Dead? Wounded? Or is that still unknown?

Minimum 20 casualties.

As discussed earlier it's likely closer to 40 given the amount of rounds he unloaded + distance to the individuals he was actively firing at. Hard to miss at close quarters and from what I saw in the video, he was firing with 30 round mags.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:13 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Liriena wrote:Actually, yeah, it is. Communication is a complex process and the person speaking doesn't have a lot of control over what meaning those listening assign to their words, but that doesn't mean that the speaker is 100% absolved of any responsibility in the process of creating meaning. The listeners didn't just make the words up, and the meaning they derived from them came, in at least some part, from their content and the way in which the speaker expressed it.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:13 pm

Kowani wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Replying to @nzpolice
Police can now confirm the lock down of schools throughout Christchurch has been lifted. We would like to reassure members of the public that there is a large Police presence in the city and the safety of the community is our priority.

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Ultimately, it seems to be over now..

Well, at least it’s winding down...


They are not ruling out the potential for other attacks to happen.

Christchurch Airport has suspended all regional flights into and out of Christchurch for tonight and tomorrow morning, as regional aircraft in New Zealand do not receive security screening.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:13 pm

The Black Party wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Then you won’t mind linking said source and newspaper right? Because otherwise I’m not gonna believe a damn thing you say without a source

You can find the footage on your own. I'm not linking it because nobody else has, and I'm not sure if it infringes NS rules.

Did you even read what I said? It's raw footage from the shooter's livestream. Not a newspaper.

It probably does and based on reports I strongly urge people not to watch it

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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:14 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Minimum 20 casualties.

As discussed earlier it's likely closer to 40 given the amount of rounds he unloaded + distance to the individuals he was actively firing at. Hard to miss at close quarters and from what I saw in the video via liveleak, he was firing with 30 round mags.

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:14 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Black Party wrote:My source is the shooter's POV footage of the massacre. I don't need some aristocratic bureaucrat or an "OP" to explain to me what is confirmed or what is not.

The shooter said, and I quote, "Remember, subscribe to Pewdiepie" before driving to the shooting. That is factual.

Then you won’t mind linking said source and newspaper right? Because otherwise I’m not gonna believe a damn thing you say without a source


No, he does say it. I've seen a bit of the video (I currently have it paused and honestly I don't think I have it in me to watch it further).
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:14 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Minimum 20 casualties.

As discussed earlier it's likely closer to 40 given the amount of rounds he unloaded + distance to the individuals he was actively firing at. Hard to miss at close quarters and from what I saw in the video via liveleak, he was firing with 30 round mags.

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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Black Party wrote:You can find the footage on your own. I'm not linking it because nobody else has, and I'm not sure if it infringes NS rules.

Did you even read what I said? It's raw footage from the shooter's livestream. Not a newspaper.

I strongly urge people not to watch it

I second this. I saw it myself, it infuriated me.

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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:15 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Minimum 20 casualties.

As discussed earlier it's likely closer to 40 given the amount of rounds he unloaded + distance to the individuals he was actively firing at. Hard to miss at close quarters and from what I saw in the video via liveleak, he was firing with 30 round mags.

If this beats out Paddock or Mateen, the New Zealand government will have some explaining to do.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:16 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Then you won’t mind linking said source and newspaper right? Because otherwise I’m not gonna believe a damn thing you say without a source


Don't.. that footage is, by all accounts, pretty horrific and the NZ police have specifically asked that people don't share it.

A news source confirming it will do
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Postby Cedoria » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:16 pm

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I'm a Lib Socialist, we advocate statelessness more akin to Anarchism.

I'm not asking you to swallow anything you don't put down your own mouth Jim.

Which would require the violent suppression of those who don't want the state removed and those who would want it back. So yes, you're a terrorist by your own logic, Jim.

That's the stupidest shit I've read in this thread, and we have a guy claiming Muslims set him on fire.

Careful with those straws, they're looking highly flammable.
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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:17 pm

Amuaplye wrote:
The Underground Movement Union wrote:As discussed earlier it's likely closer to 40 given the amount of rounds he unloaded + distance to the individuals he was actively firing at. Hard to miss at close quarters and from what I saw in the video via liveleak, he was firing with 30 round mags.

If this beats out Paddock or Mateen, the New Zealand government will have some explaining to do.

To be fair it's not hard to get a magazine surpassing 7 rounds, but nonetheless they're going to have to answer to this.

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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:17 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Don't.. that footage is, by all accounts, pretty horrific and the NZ police have specifically asked that people don't share it.

A news source confirming it will do

I wouldn't trust the News for a good week considering some stations reported (only) 4 people killed, and others claimed the perp attacked two different Mosques.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:17 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Don't.. that footage is, by all accounts, pretty horrific and the NZ police have specifically asked that people don't share it.

A news source confirming it will do


At the moment the news aren't speculating on all this stuff.. it's just he happened to post his manifesto and intentions online and then fucking live-streamed it.. what really sickens me is that in announcing his intentions posters are like 'god bless' and 'post F for approve'.. people who could have flagged this shit up just let it occur.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:18 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Then you won’t mind linking said source and newspaper right? Because otherwise I’m not gonna believe a damn thing you say without a source


He says it.

Too link the source, would mean him giving you the video. Take his word. Iv'e seen the video, it is true.

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Thermodolia wrote:Then you won’t mind linking said source and newspaper right? Because otherwise I’m not gonna believe a damn thing you say without a source

You can find the footage on your own. I'm not linking it because nobody else has, and I'm not sure if it infringes NS rules.

Did you even read what I said? It's raw footage from the shooter's livestream. Not a newspaper.

Since y’all are hesitant to link a source confirming this I’m gonna have to say that it never happened and you’re just making up bullshit
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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:18 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:
Amuaplye wrote:If this beats out Paddock or Mateen, the New Zealand government will have some explaining to do.

To be fair it's not hard to get a magazine surpassing 7 rounds, but nonetheless they're going to have to answer to this.

Especially because I think, the day before, a Green MP survived an assassination attempt.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:18 pm

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Scomagia wrote:Which would require the violent suppression of those who don't want the state removed and those who would want it back. So yes, you're a terrorist by your own logic, Jim.

That's the stupidest shit I've read in this thread, and we have a guy claiming Muslims set him on fire.

Well the poster really was abused by some Muslim officials (like really badly). Not excusing his islamophobia, just giving some background.
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Postby Cedoria » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:18 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:Having skimmed through the supposed manifesto, the writer rants about 'white birth rates', pretty much claims that the attack will help ban the 2nd amendment, and also attacks the people you'd think with death threats aka Merkel and Erdogan. Also the writer rages against Turkey being in NATO, and so on.

So basically Brehvik all over again.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:18 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Don't.. that footage is, by all accounts, pretty horrific and the NZ police have specifically asked that people don't share it.

A news source confirming it will do

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2019/03/new-z ... -shooting/

He's literally confirmed it.
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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:18 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
He says it.

Too link the source, would mean him giving you the video. Take his word. Iv'e seen the video, it is true.

The Black Party wrote:You can find the footage on your own. I'm not linking it because nobody else has, and I'm not sure if it infringes NS rules.

Did you even read what I said? It's raw footage from the shooter's livestream. Not a newspaper.

Since y’all are hesitant to link a source confirming this I’m gonna have to say that it never happened and you’re just making up bullshit

I'm not literally posting a gore video, and neither will anyone else here.
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