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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:54 pm

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Liriena wrote:So... I'm hearing the shooter was a PewDiePie fan? Youtube was a mistake.

My thoughts are with the Muslims of New Zealand.

I bet he was a fan of lots of things.

He didn't shout "And we're the GameGrumps!" after committing a terrorist attack. I'm not saying the Swedish dipshit is directly, personally and criminally responsible for it, but I am an advocate for reexamining your own rhetoric and who it attracts when someone calls your name as they commit a terrorist attack.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:54 pm

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Scomagia wrote:Remember, if you're well known and a (possible) fan does something bad, it's your fault. *nods*


Seriously, what the fuck does PewDiePie have to do with this?

Not a damn thing. Yet some people are intent on making him seem responsible...somehow.
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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:54 pm

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Liriena wrote:And there's an issue of context. PewDiePie has a well documented history of aligning himself with far right dipshittery (although I always thought that was mostly because he's a gullible idiot whose worldview has been wholly consumed by edgelordism).

Uh-huh.
What's this well-documented history?

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:55 pm

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Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Seriously, what the fuck does PewDiePie have to do with this?

The shooter said, "And remember, subscribe to Pewdiepie!" before driving to the Mosque*.

He didn’t say that. It hasn’t be confirmed
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:55 pm

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Pasong Tirad wrote:It's not PewDiePie's fault. Saying it's his fault is nonsense.

But, like, he might want to step back and think twice about who his content attracts if somebody literally says "Subscribe to PewDiePie" right before shooting up a mosque.

And there's an issue of context. PewDiePie has a well documented history of aligning himself with far right dipshittery (although I always thought that was mostly because he's a gullible idiot whose worldview has been wholly consumed by edgelordism).


Liri, PewDiePie had literally no connections to this guy outside of some vague mention, so why is YouTube’s favorite memelord being touted around as some sort of far-right enabler?

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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:55 pm

Liriena wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I bet he was a fan of lots of things.

He didn't shout "And we're the GameGrumps!" after committing a terrorist attack. I'm not saying the Swedish dipshit is directly, personally and criminally responsible for it, but I am an advocate for reexamining your own rhetoric and who it attracts when someone calls your name as they commit a terrorist attack.

It sure as Hell isn't Pewdiepie's fault that he has the wrong fans.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:56 pm

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Scomagia wrote:I bet he was a fan of lots of things.

He didn't shout "And we're the GameGrumps!" after committing a terrorist attack. I'm not saying the Swedish dipshit is directly, personally and criminally responsible for it, but I am an advocate for reexamining your own rhetoric and who it attracts when someone calls your name as they commit a terrorist attack.

If I had a following, and one of my followers killed multiple people while shouting my name, I would definitely take that as a sign that I need to think about what kind of influence I have on others.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:56 pm

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Well for whatever comfort there is the guy noted he chose NZ precisely because it's not the sort of place where this tends to happen. I don't think anyone will feel this reflects on NZ, and your police seem to have done a bang up job.

Stay safe.

Im confused. Was this guy a Australian citizen who traveled to New Zealand to commit this horrific act?


Seems so, if the manifesto put online is genuinely his then yeah, he's just an ordinary fella who went to Europe, saw Muslims and decided to go full white supremacist..

I don't think he specifically traveled to NZ, he was in NZ and made up his mind to act.
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:56 pm

Amuaplye wrote:
Nantoraka wrote:Uh-huh.
What's this well-documented history?

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One joke that he later apologized for, and this is NOT the topic of the thread.

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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:56 pm

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The Black Party wrote:The shooter said, "And remember, subscribe to Pewdiepie!" before driving to the Mosque*.

He didn’t say that. It hasn’t be confirmed

Yes he did. It has been confirmed.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:57 pm

The comments I'm reading on the CBS News Youtube channel are absolutely disgusting.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:57 pm

This isn't PewDiePie's fault. Afaik he hasn't posted any terrorist material on his channel.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:57 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:
Liriena wrote:He didn't shout "And we're the GameGrumps!" after committing a terrorist attack. I'm not saying the Swedish dipshit is directly, personally and criminally responsible for it, but I am an advocate for reexamining your own rhetoric and who it attracts when someone calls your name as they commit a terrorist attack.

It sure as Hell isn't Pewdiepie's fault that he has the wrong fans.

If your art attracts shitty people, that should elicit at least a bit of introspection. People don't just assign meaning to their idols ex nihilo.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:58 pm

Liriena wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I bet he was a fan of lots of things.

He didn't shout "And we're the GameGrumps!" after committing a terrorist attack. I'm not saying the Swedish dipshit is directly, personally and criminally responsible for it, but I am an advocate for reexamining your own rhetoric and who it attracts when someone calls your name as they commit a terrorist attack.

JD Salinger should have examined his rhetoric after the assassination of John Lennon and the attempted assassination of Reagan, right? All that "phony" talk really radicalized some folks, eh? :roll:

You are spouting the dumbest shit possible dude. Seriously.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:58 pm

The Black Party wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:He didn’t say that. It hasn’t be confirmed

Yes he did. It has been confirmed.

You have a source?

Because even the OP says such reports are unfounded
Costa Fierro wrote:The reports of him shouting "subscribe to pewdiepie" are apparently unfounded.
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Postby Nantoraka » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:58 pm

Liriena wrote:
Liriena wrote:He didn't shout "And we're the GameGrumps!" after committing a terrorist attack. I'm not saying the Swedish dipshit is directly, personally and criminally responsible for it, but I am an advocate for reexamining your own rhetoric and who it attracts when someone calls your name as they commit a terrorist attack.

If I had a following, and one of my followers killed multiple people while shouting my name, I would definitely take that as a sign that I need to think about what kind of influence I have on others.

Yes, I'm also certain PewdiePie is white nationalist, hates Muslims, and has been wanting to massacre said Muslims for quite some time.

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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:59 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:The comments I'm reading on the CBS News Youtube channel are absolutely disgusting.

You should see the /pol/ thread.

It's actually... better then I expected. There are a fair bit of /pol/tards who are "condemning" the attack, albeit for the wrong reasons.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:59 pm

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One joke that he later apologized for, and this is NOT the topic of the thread.

That was just a bad joke... but then he went and endorsed an anti-semitic Youtube channel. Meaning that he's either incredibly incompetent at doing basic PR or is pretending to be an imbecile.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:00 pm

Hard to believe this has turned into a 'defend Pewdiepie' topic..
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:00 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:This isn't PewDiePie's fault. Afaik he hasn't posted any terrorist material on his channel.

That's not what we're saying.

What we are saying though, is that "Subscribe to PewDiePie" has now been a thing that somebody has said before shooting up a mosque. Yes, that at least should merit some kind of introspection into the kind of audience you cultivate.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:00 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Liriena wrote:He didn't shout "And we're the GameGrumps!" after committing a terrorist attack. I'm not saying the Swedish dipshit is directly, personally and criminally responsible for it, but I am an advocate for reexamining your own rhetoric and who it attracts when someone calls your name as they commit a terrorist attack.

JD Salinger should have examined his rhetoric after the assassination of John Lennon and the attempted assassination of Reagan, right? All that "phony" talk really radicalized some folks, eh? :roll:

You are spouting the dumbest shit possible dude. Seriously.

"lol you're saying stupid shit" and rolling your eyes is not an argument.
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Postby Nantoraka » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:01 pm

Bombadil wrote:Hard to believe this has turned into a 'defend Pewdiepie' topic..

I'm amazed people are blaming PewdiePie for this in the first place.

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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:01 pm

Bombadil wrote:Hard to believe this has turned into a 'defend Pewdiepie' topic..


Candace Owens and Laura Loomer had a interesting take on all this.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:01 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:This isn't PewDiePie's fault. Afaik he hasn't posted any terrorist material on his channel.

That's not what we're saying.

What we are saying though, is that "Subscribe to PewDiePie" has now been a thing that somebody has said before shooting up a mosque.

Ik but some people are saying that the youtuber is at least vaguely responsible for this.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:01 pm

Bombadil wrote:Hard to believe this has turned into a 'defend Pewdiepie' topic..

Real extremely online personality cult hours here
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