Transgender Discussion Thread III: Vote in our poll!

[Valrifell]

If you think every trans person is nonbinary, you have zero credentials to be speaking here. It shows that you have no knowledge of what you're talking about.

A lot of people treat transgender like a third gender, it's weird, and it's not mutually exclusive with male or female.

I think that's due to the attitude that "people can do whatever they want to their bodies" as a defense for trans folk, but not realizing that trans men are men and trans women are women.

So the result is that their perception is that trans people are kind of like a "half n half".

[Auzkhia]

A lot of people treat transgender like a third gender, it's weird, and it's not mutually exclusive with male or female.

I think that's due to the attitude that "people can do whatever they want to their bodies" as a defense for trans folk, but not realizing that trans men are men and trans women are women.

So the result is that their perception is that trans people are kind of like a "half n half".

And cis-normativity too, presuming that only amab people can be men and only afab people can be women, when you can be any gender, man, woman, non-binary or other regardless of birth sex.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I think that's due to the attitude that "people can do whatever they want to their bodies" as a defense for trans folk, but not realizing that trans men are men and trans women are women.

So the result is that their perception is that trans people are kind of like a "half n half".

And cis-normativity too, presuming that only amab people can be men and only afab people can be women, when you can be any gender, man, woman, non-binary or other regardless of birth sex.

Friendly reminder that being cis and heterosexual is, y’know, kind of the norm.

[Soviet Technocracy2]

I care tremendously about trans people. I want them to get the help they need to sort out and resolve their gender dysphoria.

Experiencing discomfort can just as well be a part of exploring who you are. Most don’t suggest one “sort out and resolve”, say, bisexuality anymore. Generally speaking you’d resolve it by perusing it.

I don’t usually have dysphoria, and usually identify more with my birth gender. But when I do feel differently and perhaps have dysphoria and pursue it I find the experience very positive.

[Soviet Technocracy2]

I think that's due to the attitude that "people can do whatever they want to their bodies" as a defense for trans folk, but not realizing that trans men are men and trans women are women.

So the result is that their perception is that trans people are kind of like a "half n half".

Binary trans people seem in be the majority and should be recognized as such.

[Brittany Normandy Aquitaine]

I could link a bunch of ben shapiro here but I won't, I will throw my opinion out here quickly.

gender and sex are the same thing, and if you are born male, you are male, born female, you are female, you cannot switch, you cannot be both, you cannot be something entirely different, and I want someone here to try to convince me otherwise

(if i don't respond it is cause i probably forgot i posted here considering I do that a lot)

[Soviet Technocracy2]

gender and sex are the same thing, and if you are born male, you are male, born female, you are female, you cannot switch, you cannot be both, you cannot be something entirely different, and I want someone here to try to convince me otherwise m

Not really interested, but here you go.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 112351.htm

[Brittany Normandy Aquitaine]

Already off that article's title I can say the brain is more like that because the person wants to be like that, not because they are really a trans or queer thing

[Soviet Technocracy2]

Already off that article's title I can say the brain is more like that because the person wants to be like that, not because they are really a trans or queer thing

I don’t think you can obtain a brain pattern and other test results of the opposite sex by wanting to be said sex.

[Soviet Technocracy2]

Not that I see what difference it makes. If you can, then gender isn’t binary. You can change it.

[Aggicificicerous]

gender and sex are the same thing

I'm curious. Why is that?

[Linux and the X]

gender and sex are the same thing

I'm curious. Why is that?

There's no consistent and useful definition of sex other than synonymous with gender.

[Vassenor]

I could link a bunch of ben shapiro here but I won't, I will throw my opinion out here quickly.

gender and sex are the same thing, and if you are born male, you are male, born female, you are female, you cannot switch, you cannot be both, you cannot be something entirely different, and I want someone here to try to convince me otherwise

(if i don't respond it is cause i probably forgot i posted here considering I do that a lot)

If you're basing your opinions on what Shapiro told you then you're already pretty much beyond help.

[Aggicificicerous]

I'm curious. Why is that?

There's no consistent and useful definition of sex other than synonymous with gender.

I majored in biology. From cell biology, to ecology, to zoology, even human behaviour, we talked about sex all the time. It's an essential word in the field. You know what word never came up? Gender. That's a word used in the social sciences and humanities, not a hard science like biology. It's used in different places, by different people, has different implications. If type 'sex' into Google Scholar, I get very different results than if I type 'gender'. It appears the two words are being used differently. They may be similar, but not synonymous.

[Ifreann]

I could link a bunch of ben shapiro here but I won't, I will throw my opinion out here quickly.

gender and sex are the same thing, and if you are born male, you are male, born female, you are female, you cannot switch, you cannot be both, you cannot be something entirely different, and I want someone here to try to convince me otherwise

Why? Why do you want someone to try and convince you otherwise?

[Internationalist Bastard]

A tone else have a problem of only really liking androgynous outfits on yourself?

[Hanafuridake]

A tone else have a problem of only really liking androgynous outfits on yourself?

Depends on the mood. I've worn some feminine clothes when I'm confident enough to pass (which is not a lot of the time). I mostly wear flannel shirts because I feel less vulnerable behind them. Which lead to some friends joking I'm a butch-femme hybrid.

[Internationalist Bastard]

A tone else have a problem of only really liking androgynous outfits on yourself?

Depends on the mood. I've worn some feminine clothes when I'm confident enough to pass (which is not a lot of the time). I mostly wear flannel shirts because I feel less vulnerable behind them. Which lead to some friends joking I'm a butch-femme hybrid.

Big mood

[Ifreann]

A tone else have a problem of only really liking androgynous outfits on yourself?

Depends on the mood. I've worn some feminine clothes when I'm confident enough to pass (which is not a lot of the time). I mostly wear flannel shirts because I feel less vulnerable behind them. Which lead to some friends joking I'm a butch-femme hybrid.

A bumme?

[The New California Republic]

Depends on the mood. I've worn some feminine clothes when I'm confident enough to pass (which is not a lot of the time). I mostly wear flannel shirts because I feel less vulnerable behind them. Which lead to some friends joking I'm a butch-femme hybrid.

A bumme?

No. A futch.

[Ifreann]

A bumme?

No. A futch.

Mine is funnier.

[Seangoli]

I could link a bunch of ben shapiro here but I won't, I will throw my opinion out here quickly.

gender and sex are the same thing, and if you are born male, you are male, born female, you are female, you cannot switch, you cannot be both, you cannot be something entirely different, and I want someone here to try to convince me otherwise

(if i don't respond it is cause i probably forgot i posted here considering I do that a lot)

Gender and sex are not the same concept. Sex is the biological classification one has. While it is technically true that humans have two sexes with different gametes that are involved in reproduction, itnalso true that there individuals whomnon a biological level do not fit neatly into male or female sexes, from a biological point. Individuals with male genitalia whom have xy chromosomes, chimeras, etc do all exist. That said, typically there is a male and female dichotomy.


Gender is a concept that refers to how sex is expressed and defined in a given society. While gender typically aligns with expected biological sex, this does nkt mean that sex and gender are the same. Rather, Gender is the social expectations involved with a person's sex.


The reason why the latter was developed has nothing to do with some sort of nefarious SJW-ness. Rather, it developed in psychology and anthropology to discuss the rather complicated nature that sex and culture have with one another, and how different individuals and cultures express sex in a cultural context.

More to the point, Sex is the biological portion, Gender is studying how biology and culture interact.

[First American Empire]

Individuals with male genitalia whom have xy chromosomes,

I think you meant xx chromosomes. 99.8% or so of individuals born with male genitalia have xy chromosomes. This is definitely a thing that can happen once you fix the typo though.

[Auzkhia]

Good news! I started hormone therapy today, only bad thing was a blood test, it was a bit painful and nearly passed out at the sight of it, I have anxiety issues with blood and needles.

[The New California Republic]

Good news! I started hormone therapy today, only bad thing was a blood test, it was a bit painful and nearly passed out at the sight of it, I have anxiety issues with blood and needles.

I assume it isn't being administered by injection?