MAGAThread XV: Because Another

[Cannot think of a name]

A right wing person promises to somehow fix the debt but then just adds to it when elected.


This is why I like people who say they will run a deficit, at least they are being honest about it.

The left-wing person running a thousand and one social programs isn’t gonna Thanos snap away the debt as well, just sayin’.

However...

In terms of total increase in "federal debt to GDP" under U.S. presidents in the post-World War II era, Republican presidents during their terms have contributed far more to the debt load of the nation than Democrats.
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As the debates on who is responsible for the levels of federal debt continue to play out in the next 10 days before the election and the 66 days before the US hits a fiscal cliff, remember that the worst contributors to America's debt load were mostly GOP presidents

Because we can't have a discussion that doesn't include a 'but Obama...'

Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and George W. Bush all added to the federal debt significantly on a percent of GDP basis. On the Democratic side, President Obama -- who inherited the worst financial crisis in this era from his predecessor -- also ranks high in terms of contributing to the federal debt as a percentage of GDP.

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with the single exception of Obama, who had a global economic tsunami crashing in on the White House and nation when he took the helm.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

The left-wing person running a thousand and one social programs isn’t gonna Thanos snap away the debt as well, just sayin’.

However...

In terms of total increase in "federal debt to GDP" under U.S. presidents in the post-World War II era, Republican presidents during their terms have contributed far more to the debt load of the nation than Democrats.
...
As the debates on who is responsible for the levels of federal debt continue to play out in the next 10 days before the election and the 66 days before the US hits a fiscal cliff, remember that the worst contributors to America's debt load were mostly GOP presidents

Because we can't have a discussion that doesn't include a 'but Obama...'

Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and George W. Bush all added to the federal debt significantly on a percent of GDP basis. On the Democratic side, President Obama -- who inherited the worst financial crisis in this era from his predecessor -- also ranks high in terms of contributing to the federal debt as a percentage of GDP.

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with the single exception of Obama, who had a global economic tsunami crashing in on the White House and nation when he took the helm.

The dozens of worthless wars started by them most likely didn’t fucking help those records,

[Zapato]

A right wing person promises to somehow fix the debt but then just adds to it when elected.


This is why I like people who say they will run a deficit, at least they are being honest about it.

The left-wing person running a thousand and one social programs isn’t gonna Thanos snap away the debt as well, just sayin’.

So to sum up:

- You have a person who promises to wipe out all the debt, but adds to it instead and will leave you an inneffective wall.
- You have a person who doesn't promise to wipe out all the debt, but will add to it and will leave you social programs.

Which one do you support?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

The left-wing person running a thousand and one social programs isn’t gonna Thanos snap away the debt as well, just sayin’.

So to sum up:

- You have a person who promises to wipe out all the debt, but adds to it instead and will leave you an inneffective wall.
- You have a person who doesn't promise to wipe out all the debt, but will add to it and will leave you social programs.

Which one do you support?

MeXiCo WiLl PaY FoR ThE WaLl

[Western Vale Confederacy]

The left-wing person running a thousand and one social programs isn’t gonna Thanos snap away the debt as well, just sayin’.

So to sum up:

- You have a person who promises to wipe out all the debt, but adds to it instead and will leave you an inneffective wall.
- You have a person who doesn't promise to wipe out all the debt, but will add to it and will leave you social programs.

Which one do you support?

You forgot to mention that the last one’s social programs will eventually collapse as the funding for them runs out.

So frankly, you’re left with nothing on both sides. I’ll pass and collect $200 on Go, thanks.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So to sum up:

- You have a person who promises to wipe out all the debt, but adds to it instead and will leave you an inneffective wall.
- You have a person who doesn't promise to wipe out all the debt, but will add to it and will leave you social programs.

Which one do you support?

You forgot to mention that the last one’s social programs will eventually collapse as the funding for them runs out.

So frankly, you’re left with nothing on both sides. I’ll pass and collect $200 on Go, thanks.

Or you could just not defund them.

Or do the most sane thing and just raise taxes to pay for the increased spending.

[Sicaris]

You forgot to mention that the last one’s social programs will eventually collapse as the funding for them runs out.

So frankly, you’re left with nothing on both sides. I’ll pass and collect $200 on Go, thanks.

Or you could just not defund them.

Or do the most sane thing and just raise taxes to pay for the increased spending.

Boy do I love paying for things I don’t use and will never need

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Or you could just not defund them.

Or do the most sane thing and just raise taxes to pay for the increased spending.

Boy do I love paying for things I don’t use and will never need

Other people in your nation need them and it's your duty as a citizen to improve your nation and the quality of life for people in it.

When you help other people, other people help you. When you help America, America helps you.

[Vassenor]

Or you could just not defund them.

Or do the most sane thing and just raise taxes to pay for the increased spending.

Boy do I love paying for things I don’t use and will never need

...Do you think the taxation is theft crowd turn away fire engines racing to the scene when their house is burning down?

[Sicaris]

Boy do I love paying for things I don’t use and will never need

Other people in your nation need them and it's your duty as a citizen to improve your nation and the quality of life for people in it.

When you help other people, other people help you. When you help America, America helps you.

It’s not my duty to pay taxes for things I don’t need nor use. I already help out my nation, and I already help America.

[Sicaris]

Boy do I love paying for things I don’t use and will never need

...Do you think the taxation is theft crowd turn away fire engines racing to the scene when their house is burning down?

This is pointless. The conversation isn’t about fire engines, which I may use, but about federal healthcare plans, which I know I will not need.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Other people in your nation need them and it's your duty as a citizen to improve your nation and the quality of life for people in it.

When you help other people, other people help you. When you help America, America helps you.

It’s not my duty to pay taxes for things I don’t need nor use. I already help out my nation, and I already help America.

It is your duty to pay taxes for your representation. Those taxes should be raised for everyone to make an even better America.

[Ifreann]

...Do you think the taxation is theft crowd turn away fire engines racing to the scene when their house is burning down?

This is pointless. The conversation isn’t about fire engines, which I may use, but about federal healthcare plans, which I know I will not need.

I maintain my eternal health and youth by bathing in the blood of virgins, so the government shouldn't be providing other people with healthcare.

[Vassenor]

...Do you think the taxation is theft crowd turn away fire engines racing to the scene when their house is burning down?

This is pointless. The conversation isn’t about fire engines, which I may use, but about federal healthcare plans, which I know I will not need.

Wonder if you'll still be saying that when your insurer decides you have enough of a pre-existing condition to yank your coverage.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

...Do you think the taxation is theft crowd turn away fire engines racing to the scene when their house is burning down?

This is pointless. The conversation isn’t about fire engines, which I may use, but about federal healthcare plans, which I know I will not need.

Others do. Helping those people will let there life grow and advance to help America. They will help you when you need it beacuse you helped them.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

This is pointless. The conversation isn’t about fire engines, which I may use, but about federal healthcare plans, which I know I will not need.

Others do. Helping those people will let there life grow and advance to help America. They will help you when you need it beacuse you helped them.

Caring about people?

[Cannot think of a name]

...Do you think the taxation is theft crowd turn away fire engines racing to the scene when their house is burning down?

This is pointless. The conversation isn’t about fire engines, which I may use, but about federal healthcare plans, which I know I will not need.

Even the Insured Can't Afford Their Medical Bills

[Tarsonis]

It’s not my duty to pay taxes for things I don’t need nor use. I already help out my nation, and I already help America.

It is your duty to pay taxes for your representation. Those taxes should be raised for everyone to make an even better America.

Tell me what portion of a persons income do you think you can fairly lay claim to, where's the limit?

[Loben]

It’s not my duty to pay taxes for things I don’t need nor use. I already help out my nation, and I already help America.

It is your duty to pay taxes for your representation. Those taxes should be raised for everyone to make an even better America.

considering how much of my paycheck the state and fed takes out, fuck no.

[Vassenor]

It is your duty to pay taxes for your representation. Those taxes should be raised for everyone to make an even better America.

considering how much of my paycheck the state and fed takes out, fuck no.

Which is why we need to tax the rich properly in order to even out the effective burden.

[Tarsonis]

considering how much of my paycheck the state and fed takes out, fuck no.

Which is why we need to tax the rich properly in order to even out the effective burden.

The rich already pay the majority of taxes

[Vassenor]

Also apparently we need to pretend that one of the largest drug busts in NY/NJ history didn't happen because it doesn't fit Trump's narrative about where drugs come in from; he says that it's all lies that drugs come in through legal ports of entry rather than over the land border.

[Tarsonis]

Also apparently we need to pretend that one of the largest drug busts in NY/NJ history didn't happen because it doesn't fit Trump's narrative about where drugs come in from; he says that it's all lies that drugs come in through legal ports of entry rather than over the land border.

More like we need to teach Rachel Maddow about honest journalism again.

[Ifreann]

Also apparently we need to pretend that one of the largest drug busts in NY/NJ history didn't happen because it doesn't fit Trump's narrative about where drugs come in from; he says that it's all lies that drugs come in through legal ports of entry rather than over the land border.

More like we need to teach Rachel Maddow about honest journalism again.

By Steve Benen

[Tarsonis]

More like we need to teach Rachel Maddow about honest journalism again.

By Steve Benen

Him too