Transgender Discussion Thread III: Vote in our poll!

[The New California Republic]

Indeed they do, much to my annoyance, as they gender everything.

Honestly, I'm just going to start referring to everyone by sex instead of gender.
Sex is real and not based on anything else.

Tbh your entire position on this subject has been confused as fuck. You probably just need to scratch the entire thing and start again.

[Ifreann]

Indeed they do, much to my annoyance, as they gender everything.

Honestly, I'm just going to start referring to everyone by sex instead of gender.
Sex is real and not based on anything else.

Sex isn't really a binary, and realistically you will never know another person's sex, probably not even your own.

[ELwurd]

Sex is real and not based on anything else.

sex is a composite of quite a few different biocharacteristics, it's 100% not its own separate axiom

[Farburg]

Honestly, I'm just going to start referring to everyone by sex instead of gender.
Sex is real and not based on anything else.

Sex isn't really a binary, and realistically you will never know another person's sex, probably not even your own.

I am a man, because I have XY chromosomes and I have a penis that makes sperm.
Thats sex

[Khasinkonia]

Sex isn't really a binary, and realistically you will never know another person's sex, probably not even your own.

I am a man, because I have XY chromosomes and I have a penis that makes sperm.
Thats sex

So is woman with XY chromosomes and a womb a man or a woman?

[Ifreann]

Sex isn't really a binary, and realistically you will never know another person's sex, probably not even your own.

I am a man, because I have XY chromosomes and I have a penis that makes sperm.
Thats sex

Do you actually know that you have XY chromosomes? Have you checked? Have you ruled out the possibility of chimerism?

If, heaven forfend, your penis falls off, will you become a woman?

Also, the testicles make sperm, not the penis.

[Farburg]

I am a man, because I have XY chromosomes and I have a penis that makes sperm.
Thats sex

So is woman with XY chromosomes and a womb a man or a woman?

Neither, they are a transvestite

[Khasinkonia]

So is woman with XY chromosomes and a womb a man or a woman?

Neither, they are a transvestite

What if they were born with a womb and found out only via genetic testing that they had XY chromosomes? It’s called Swyer Syndrome, in case you wanna google it.

[Farburg]

I am a man, because I have XY chromosomes and I have a penis that makes sperm.
Thats sex

Do you actually know that you have XY chromosomes? Have you checked? Have you ruled out the possibility of chimerism?

If, heaven forfend, your penis falls off, will you become a woman?

Also, the testicles make sperm, not the penis.

Sorry, testicles, got it

And, yes you can be in-between the sexes biologically, but it isn't its own sex within itself, its in-between the two real ones.

spectrums ARE binary, they have a beginning and end as the two original points

[Farburg]

Neither, they are a transvestite

What if they were born with a womb and found out only via genetic testing that they had XY chromosomes? It’s called Swyer Syndrome, in case you wanna google it.

Syndromes and Disorders only create results that puts them in-between the two sexes,
It is not a sex within itself

[ELwurd]

spectrums ARE binary, they have a beginning and end as the two original points

what are the endpoints of the color spectrum? do enlighten us

[Serrus]

I'm watching this argument in stunned horror.
Everyone says everything I am thinking before I can compose an indignant response, but it just keeps going.

[Soviet Technocracy]

I don’t know what the point of the argument is. You should be allowed to pick your gender the way you pick other aspects of yourself.

[Khasinkonia]

I don’t know what the point of the argument is. You should be allowed to pick your gender the way you pick other aspects of yourself.

I understand this sentiment. Frankly I get rather tired of seeing these same old arguments debating whether trans people exist or not. I’d like to see more stuff about how the current systems work and what needs improvement and what we can learn from the past.

[Farburg]

spectrums ARE binary, they have a beginning and end as the two original points

what are the endpoints of the color spectrum? do enlighten us

Its more like pH

[Farburg]

I don’t know what the point of the argument is. You should be allowed to pick your gender the way you pick other aspects of yourself.

I understand this sentiment. Frankly I get rather tired of seeing these same old arguments debating whether trans people exist or not. I’d like to see more stuff about how the current systems work and what needs improvement and what we can learn from the past.

Frankly any changes our ''systems'' need have nothing to do with trans people.

[Thuzbekistan]

I understand this sentiment. Frankly I get rather tired of seeing these same old arguments debating whether trans people exist or not. I’d like to see more stuff about how the current systems work and what needs improvement and what we can learn from the past.

Frankly any changes our ''systems'' need have nothing to do with trans people.

You're getting kinda hostile bud. Dont get into a tizzy.

[Ifreann]

So is woman with XY chromosomes and a womb a man or a woman?

Neither, they are a transvestite

Transvestite means "cross-dresser". Like, the "vest" bit in the middle is from the Latin for clothes.

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Do you actually know that you have XY chromosomes? Have you checked? Have you ruled out the possibility of chimerism?

If, heaven forfend, your penis falls off, will you become a woman?

Also, the testicles make sperm, not the penis.

Sorry, testicles, got it

And, yes you can be in-between the sexes biologically, but it isn't its own sex within itself, its in-between the two real ones.

spectrums ARE binary, they have a beginning and end as the two original points

This is just not what words means.

[Farburg]

Neither, they are a transvestite

Transvestite means "cross-dresser". Like, the "vest" bit in the middle is from the Latin for clothes.

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Sorry, testicles, got it

And, yes you can be in-between the sexes biologically, but it isn't its own sex within itself, its in-between the two real ones.

spectrums ARE binary, they have a beginning and end as the two original points

This is just not what words means.

I guess I mean its a scale then, not a spectrum

[Dumb Ideologies]

Thread clogged by fatberg. Who flushed the wet wipes?

[Valrifell]

what are the endpoints of the color spectrum? do enlighten us

Its more like pH

The pH scale isn't binary. I mean, the most common way of testing it is seeing how much the test strip vaguely resembles another color.

I don't see how that can be binary in the slightest. Also, I don't think you fully grasp what the terms "binary" and "spectrum" actually mean, I assure you they are mutually exclusive.

[Ifreann]

Transvestite means "cross-dresser". Like, the "vest" bit in the middle is from the Latin for clothes.

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This is just not what words means.

I guess I mean its a scale then, not a spectrum

That still doesn't mean what you think it means.

[Valrifell]

I guess I mean its a scale then, not a spectrum

That still doesn't mean what you think it means.

I guess he thinks it's something like trinary? But, like, with an undetermined amount of options?

So a spectrum, but he doesn't want to admit it.

[Cekoviu]

If gender is based on sex there are two genders, if gender is not based on sex there are no genders at all.

This makes no logical sense. Gender is an independent quality which is typically influenced by the biological pathway one takes as a foetus, which means there can be categories outside the typical system.

[Cekoviu]

Its more like pH

The pH scale isn't binary. I mean, the most common way of testing it is seeing how much the test strip vaguely resembles another color.

I don't see how that can be binary in the slightest. Also, I don't think you fully grasp what the terms "binary" and "spectrum" actually mean, I assure you they are mutually exclusive.

A computer addresses data using two possible values, which we represent by 1 and 0. That's a binary.
A human addresses pure color input using an extremely large number of possible combinations which are sorted into categories that differ slightly from person to person, and some values can be considered to lie within multiple categories. That's a spectrum.
That's how I'd put it.