Great Old South wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:So, you're okay with forcing other people to adopt your ideology against your will? That seems like it's stepping over a line. I could understand private businesses, but these are groups with defined membership and beliefs that go back millennia.
Yea. I am. Including forcing it upon reactionary sexist Brahmin welfare queens.
All sorts of spooky inane shit has been justified over the centuries in the name of "tradition", including everything from institutionalized (racial) slavery, to (female) genital mutilation, and worse.
No, the intellectual legacy of the enlightenment shouldn't bow before barbarism. Even if it includes trampling upon a 'private' (see earlier posts) space. As long as these practices cannot be justified rationally, they have no place in civilized society.
Now, I could argue that I shouldn't care because religion (though not all religious people) is reactionary to begin with. But I won't. Because this stuff needs to be fought everywhere.
Hence, no exception for "private business". You either oppose racism and sexism on a fundamental level, or you're okay with it.
Enlightenment philosophy isn't any better than pre-enlightenment philosophy.
Also, if you're making everyone conform to enlightenment philosophy, you're actually violating enlightenment principles.