Buying Airspace?

[Ors Might]

Not seeing how the rich building pencil towers in expensive areas prevents one from building affordable housing.

It drives up rent prices for everyone else.

Were the rent prices particularly affordable before then?

[Alvecia]

Or how about we stop caring abound the mega rich and stop caring about land value

Or how about one could just stop throwing a hissy fit in how the rich spend their money. Of the many things to worry about, this isn't even in the top 1 million of things to worry about.

There are some issues with it. Areas can basically turn into ghost towns, cause the luxury houses/apartments aren't being bought/lived in.

The property value argument is fair, but as a counterpoint, it's not like they're going to be building their luxury apartments in the middle of poorer areas. They're going to build them where everyone else builds them, in nice, rich, posh areas

[San Lumen]

You change the zoning law so these pencil like buildings cannot be built

yeah because everything should be about making a profit.

Yes, that's how economies work.

Lets just build only housing for the rich only they should be able to afford housing

Only the rich should be able to afford housing where property values are so high that the only way a developer can make money is to sell the property to rich people.

yeah because the heck with anyone else who lives here. Only rich snobs with more money then I could ever possibly earn matter.

[San Lumen]

Or how about one could just stop throwing a hissy fit in how the rich spend their money. Of the many things to worry about, this isn't even in the top 1 million of things to worry about.

There are some issues with it. Areas can basically turn into ghost towns, cause the luxury houses/apartments aren't being bought/lived in.

The property value argument is fair, but as a counterpoint, it's not like they're going to be building their luxury apartments in the middle of poorer areas. They're going to build them where everyone else builds them, in nice, rich, posh areas

San Francisco is a prime example. Its a city only the rich can afford at this point.

[Ors Might]

Yes, that's how economies work.

Only the rich should be able to afford housing where property values are so high that the only way a developer can make money is to sell the property to rich people.

yeah because the heck with anyone else who lives here. Only rich snobs with more money then I could ever possibly earn matter.

Considering you were able to afford living in nice, rich areas where they’d build those towers, I’m sure you’ll land on your feet.

[San Lumen]

yeah because the heck with anyone else who lives here. Only rich snobs with more money then I could ever possibly earn matter.

Considering you were able to afford living in nice, rich areas where they’d build those towers, I’m sure you’ll land on your feet.

I wish i did live in one of those areas but i dont make enough money to afford the rents

[Ors Might]

Considering you were able to afford living in nice, rich areas where they’d build those towers, I’m sure you’ll land on your feet.

I wish i did live in one of those areas but i dont make enough money to afford the rents

So then you weren’t hurt by them building in those areas.

[San Lumen]

I wish i did live in one of those areas but i dont make enough money to afford the rents

So then you weren’t hurt by them building in those areas.

These towers have the potential to make my rent higher. Its likely only a matter of time before they come to my area and start building these eyesores there.

[Ors Might]

So then you weren’t hurt by them building in those areas.

These towers have the potential to make my rent higher. Its likely only a matter of time before they come to my area and start building these eyesores there.

Why would they build them in your area? Is it somewhere where rich types would want to use as their second homes?

[San Lumen]

These towers have the potential to make my rent higher. Its likely only a matter of time before they come to my area and start building these eyesores there.

Why would they build them in your area? Is it somewhere where rich types would want to use as their second homes?

If you have the money you can buy land anywhere and build these ugly things

[Ethel mermania]

yeah because the heck with anyone else who lives here. Only rich snobs with more money then I could ever possibly earn matter.

Considering you were able to afford living in nice, rich areas where they’d build those towers, I’m sure you’ll land on your feet.

20 years ago you could get a 1 bedroom apt in hells kitchen for 700 a month. If not rent controlled that same apt would be around 3,500 a month now.

[Ifreann]

Yeah, well, that's, like, your opinion, man.

HOW IS IT A WASTE OF LAND?

If I buy a $15 million piece of prime Manhattan real estate, it doesn't matter if I build a single-family home on it or a 2000' tower full of luxury apartments that nobody else lives in, you're still not going to be living there.

You could be building stuff for the average person not a uber rich person who will likely spend a day or two there.

You could be building housing to give away for free. Think bigger, Lumen. You don't have to stop at wanting middle class people to be able to afford housing, you can go further and want everyone to be able to afford housing because housing has been decommodified and doesn't cost anything.

[Ors Might]

Why would they build them in your area? Is it somewhere where rich types would want to use as their second homes?

If you have the money you can buy land anywhere and build these ugly things

But why would they want to? There’s a reason why they build them in richer areas, that’s typically where the better locations are.

[San Lumen]

Considering you were able to afford living in nice, rich areas where they’d build those towers, I’m sure you’ll land on your feet.

20 years ago you could get a 1 bedroom apt in hells kitchen for 700 a month. If not rent controlled that same apt would be around 3,500 a month now.

In my opinion there ought to be rent control for everyone

[Ifreann]

These towers have the potential to make my rent higher. Its likely only a matter of time before they come to my area and start building these eyesores there.

Why would they build them in your area? Is it somewhere where rich types would want to use as their second homes?

Gentrification, baby.

[San Lumen]

If you have the money you can buy land anywhere and build these ugly things

But why would they want to? There’s a reason why they build them in richer areas, that’s typically where the better locations are.

Because they can and have the money.

[Ors Might]

Considering you were able to afford living in nice, rich areas where they’d build those towers, I’m sure you’ll land on your feet.

20 years ago you could get a 1 bedroom apt in hells kitchen for 700 a month. If not rent controlled that same apt would be around 3,500 a month now.

Jesus. That’s twice what a shitty house in my area would cost. Y’all urbanites okay?

[Ifreann]

20 years ago you could get a 1 bedroom apt in hells kitchen for 700 a month. If not rent controlled that same apt would be around 3,500 a month now.

In my opinion there ought to be rent control for everyone

Go further. Ban rent. Ban mortgages. Crash the housing market with no survivors.

[Ors Might]

But why would they want to? There’s a reason why they build them in richer areas, that’s typically where the better locations are.

Because they can and have the money.

People don’t throw down that kinda money without reason, dude.

[San Lumen]

Because they can and have the money.

People don’t throw down that kinda money without reason, dude.

The residents of San Francisco would like a word with you.

[Alvecia]

In my opinion there ought to be rent control for everyone

Go further. Ban rent. Ban mortgages. Crash the housing market with no survivors.

Ifreann 2020

[Ors Might]

In my opinion there ought to be rent control for everyone

Go further. Ban rent. Ban mortgages. Crash the housing market with no survivors.

At the very least, government provided housing for those that can’t afford it otherwise is something I could get behind.

[San Lumen]

Go further. Ban rent. Ban mortgages. Crash the housing market with no survivors.

At the very least, government provided housing for those that can’t afford it otherwise is something I could get behind.

Isnt that what section 8 is?

[Ors Might]

People don’t throw down that kinda money without reason, dude.

The residents of San Francisco would like a word with you.

Don’t imagine they would. As a general rule, I don’t visit California or giant ass cities.

[Ors Might]

At the very least, government provided housing for those that can’t afford it otherwise is something I could get behind.

Isnt that what section 8 is?

Apparently not if it ain’t doing it.