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by Kyotakavia » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:53 pm
by Communal concils » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:18 pm
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
I was under the assumption that what OP is proposing would occur in the United States where radical left ideas, especially the kind they are advocating, are not exactly popular and would only serve to further weaken an already weakly supported ideology.
by The New California Republic » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:33 pm
Communal concils wrote:it's easy to convince a large amount of people to the politics that I advocate.
by Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:37 pm
Communal concils wrote:Bezkoshtovnya wrote:I was under the assumption that what OP is proposing would occur in the United States where radical left ideas, especially the kind they are advocating, are not exactly popular and would only serve to further weaken an already weakly supported ideology.
it's easy to convince a large amount of people to the politics that I advocate.Simiply calling it by a differant name will make the policies more appealing.In other countries, the term socialist would be used more often.
Dante Alighieri wrote:There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.
by Communal concils » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:52 pm
Page wrote:Communal concils wrote:
I would not care if they were happy or not.What I do care is that a large amount of the population does care.Propaganda is just art with a opinion that urges you to beleive in the art's message.nearly all societies had propaganda.
If happiness doesn't matter maybe we should just all live in maximum security prisons. If you're locked up in solitary confinement, you'll be fed, you'll be safe from people who would hurt you, you'll get medical care when you need it, you'll have shelter; you have the potential to live a full lifespan more or less free from danger and never deprived of what you need to survive.
Would you want that?
by Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:58 pm
Communal concils wrote:No Gods(because metaphysical things that control me are bad), and No Masters except (the democracy in which every one votes and agrees to Freedom, and always freedom).
Dante Alighieri wrote:There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.
by Communal concils » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:20 pm
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Communal concils wrote:
it's easy to convince a large amount of people to the politics that I advocate.Simiply calling it by a differant name will make the policies more appealing.In other countries, the term socialist would be used more often.
No, I utterly fail to see how you can convince the American populace how a murderous radical left coup that plans on banning religion, sex, and installing a totalitarian communist dictatorship is a good ideology. You severely overestimate your ideals. You can call your movement the "happy fun times sergeant pepper club" and the vast majority are still not going to support political murder and persecution under a radical leftist regime.
by The New California Republic » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:25 pm
Communal concils wrote:Banning Sex: I don't believe in it's total ban(I'm not a extreme Misanthrope, or Anti-Natalist).I do think it needs to be limited.
by Audioslavia » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:48 pm
Korouse wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:There is nothing noteworthy about your views either. You're a typical "America is responsible for all evil" type Far-leftist.
Not interested in your crybaby PC bullshit platitudes. Nothing about what I said wrt FDR or AOC's warhawking + welfare redistribution was wrong. You're welcome to respond with something other than histrionics.
Korouse wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:You're responding with histrionics, and then have the audacity to bullshit to me, and act like I'm doing it.
Frankly, I've had it up to here with you communist bastards. You defame and deliberately misrepresent the arguments your opponents present by warping their words around and deliberately missing the point of your arguments. You shout down the United States for atrocities we've committed, accepted, and have attempted to atone for, but you turn the other cheek when modern day tyrants start doing just the same, as long as if they happen to turn a finger to the US. Not only that, your refusal to accept reality as it is and instead conform it to your radical, ideological worldview is infuriating.
You claim the moral high ground, yet that high ground is made of a pile of corpses.
by Bear Stearns » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:00 pm
by Sicaris » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:35 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:The emergence of a populist left and a populist right truly means we are on the road towards civil war.
by LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:39 pm
by Communal concils » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:39 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:The emergence of a populist left and a populist right truly means we are on the road towards civil war.
by Bear Stearns » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:40 pm
by Communal concils » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:41 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:50 pm
by Communal concils » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:03 pm
by Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:14 pm
Communal concils wrote:Bezkoshtovnya wrote:No, I utterly fail to see how you can convince the American populace how a murderous radical left coup that plans on banning religion, sex, and installing a totalitarian communist dictatorship is a good ideology. You severely overestimate your ideals. You can call your movement the "happy fun times sergeant pepper club" and the vast majority are still not going to support political murder and persecution under a radical leftist regime.
Banning Religion: snip
Dante Alighieri wrote:There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.
by Communal concils » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:08 pm
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
You literally state in your OP on no subtle terms that world revolution is the ideal scenario by calling it a utopia, and then back track and say that is not what you are going for.
Regardless the main point still is that you think the general American public will support your harebrained ideas based on the criteria that you are putting forth and this is the demographic that includes many people hostile to the idea of moderate welfare and calls it communist and rejects it. It. Won't. Work.
An even bigger issue that I find is that you think somehow some 1000 Ish people that may marginally support your ideals are going to be able to violently overthrow the american government and still retain the culturally conservative populations support for all of the wackiness you plan to instate.
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:14 pm
Korouse wrote:Good. My argument is firm anti-nationalism. I hate America and all its built on. It is a completely despicable thing that the center-left movement here is screaming more more more in the vein of the New Deal, while AOC votes for NATO funding, because we all know it's going to be another Imperial Redistribution program along civic nationalist lines by way of conquest. That's what WW2 was about for FDR behind all the "fighting for democracy" stuff.
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:17 pm
by Communal concils » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:26 pm
by Communal concils » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:32 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Korouse wrote:We must continue the Maoist struggle sessions until Communal concils rescinds his vapid social-fascism!
Why would a Maoist struggle against Communal Council's ideology? Maoism and Communal Councilsism seem pretty much the same in practice. Except communal councils at least allows religion.
by The Lone Alliance » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:29 pm
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