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by Wellsia » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:12 pm
by Belle Ilse en Terre » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:25 pm
Wellsia wrote:Looking at the map, western half of Wellsia is unoccupied. This was originally part of Covonant. If an imperialist power wants this as a Colony let me know, this would lead to the conquest and annexation of these lands to Wellsia.
by Miklania » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:01 pm
by Dothrakia » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:27 pm
Miklania wrote:That sounds good AM, although may I suggest having Belle Ilse en Terre attack me instead of sailing north? They would be unlikely to leave themselves defenseless to join what is already a dogpile in the north.
Three months is a good amount of time to make war preparations after coming to the Christmas Agreement. The kick off date of 16 March 1941 will still make sense.
by Belle Ilse en Terre » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:48 am
Miklania wrote:That sounds good AM, although may I suggest having Belle Ilse en Terre attack me instead of sailing north? They would be unlikely to leave themselves defenseless to join what is already a dogpile in the north.
Three months is a good amount of time to make war preparations after coming to the Christmas Agreement. The kick off date of 16 March 1941 will still make sense.
by Miklania » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:56 pm
by Athara Magarat » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:31 pm
Miklania wrote:It is the start date of the war proper.
Belle, I was thinking that you would attempt first to strike the Miklanian ships that had been patrolling near your archipelago for the last few months, as a show of force, while you and the rest of the Neo-Imps try to convince Miklania to stay out of the war. The attempted show of force backfires, and Miklania joins the war with prejudice. However, psychologically defaulting to our long standing doctrine of defense, we don't do much other than have naval skirmishes for a while. Those who had been advocating for a more expeditionary military policy, plus the rest of the soon-to-be Free Powers in the North begging for help as they get the crap kicked out of them in the opening days, finally convince the Miklanians to do something productive.
The first step for us will be invading you. Your country (as a legitimate political entity) will most likely be knocked out of the war within the first few years. A handful of units may escape to the rest of the Imperial powers, and fight on the Argus and Raedlon fronts.
by Miklania » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:42 pm
Athara Magarat wrote:Miklania wrote:It is the start date of the war proper.
Belle, I was thinking that you would attempt first to strike the Miklanian ships that had been patrolling near your archipelago for the last few months, as a show of force, while you and the rest of the Neo-Imps try to convince Miklania to stay out of the war. The attempted show of force backfires, and Miklania joins the war with prejudice. However, psychologically defaulting to our long standing doctrine of defense, we don't do much other than have naval skirmishes for a while. Those who had been advocating for a more expeditionary military policy, plus the rest of the soon-to-be Free Powers in the North begging for help as they get the crap kicked out of them in the opening days, finally convince the Miklanians to do something productive.
The first step for us will be invading you. Your country (as a legitimate political entity) will most likely be knocked out of the war within the first few years. A handful of units may escape to the rest of the Imperial powers, and fight on the Argus and Raedlon fronts.
Maybe we can lengthen (but not change anything much) this front with Magarati troops in occupied Domanania or other Neo-Imperialist forces heading south?
by Athara Magarat » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:53 pm
Miklania wrote:You guys don't have unlimited resources; the Svalbardians and Noronicans are not pushovers. I would avoid sending large concentrations of troops down south in the opening months of the war. Naval forces, on the other hand, might be useful from 1942-1943, as Miklania is actually invading Belle Isle en Terre. I have a plan for just that sort of battle that I'm working on.
by Athara Magarat » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:58 am
by Belle Ilse en Terre » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:37 am
by Miklania » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:01 am
Belle Ilse en Terre wrote:I propose:*The Ilsan conseption of war is somewhat different, and does not hinge on incidents like this one, but on breaches of treaties or their own chivalric conceptions of custom.
- In the days leading up to 16 March, three unescorted Ilsan ships, two containing detachments of Ilsan men and knights amounting to about 5000, and one carrying supplies, ammunition, a few tankettes, etc., sail to Athara Magarat for a joint exercise, and participate in the occupation of San Montagna, and other battles hence.
- A powerful Ilsan surface force attacks and injures a Miklanian Cruiser Division, and continues to patrol the area, looking for Miklanian commerce. The Admiral writes a report to the king containing a detailed assessment of Ilsan naval preparedness, in context of the battle, including a suggestion that full hostilities* be held off.
- The knight tasked with flying the message back to the king notices that his plane has enough fuel for him to take a circuitous route to the Ilse, and he strafes a Miklanian destroyer, but is hit and killed. His message is noticed by an enterprising Miklanian sailor, and the report ends up securely in Miklanian hands.
- The Ilsan admiral in this time grows concerned, and discovers that the plane had gone missing, and concluding Miklanian possession of the document, reports such to the king with a more reliable and cautious pilot.
- The Ilsan consulate (or whatever) demands the return of document, and is rebuked by Miklanian diplomats, who deny knowledge of the affair. This is reported to the king by his trusted but dubious personal servant, who also holds stocks in major Ilsan ship building companies, which had been making large profits from the naval rearment proggrame, but are now declining as the Ilsan navy reaches its financial limit, and reports that Miklania has refused to hand over stolen reports lost to an engine malfunction, and, like the scoundrels they are, deny even stealing them. The king is affronted, and war is declared.
- A few moments after the declaration of war, the king receives a copy of the original report.
by Belle Ilse en Terre » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:39 pm
by Miklania » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:21 pm
Belle Ilse en Terre wrote:So how does war get declared? I am still a bit confused after reading your post. I understand your assent to my first bullet point, but not the rest of what you are saying as it relates to me, especially your phrase about “high officials”.
by Belle Ilse en Terre » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:14 pm
Miklania wrote:Belle Ilse en Terre wrote:So how does war get declared? I am still a bit confused after reading your post. I understand your assent to my first bullet point, but not the rest of what you are saying as it relates to me, especially your phrase about “high officials”.
I declare war on you guys for invading people. And for being attacked at sea.
by Corindia » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:39 pm
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by Dothrakia » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:06 am
Corindia wrote:Hey guys, still sort of struggling to find a good storyline for Corindia's involvement, would it be possible for us to send a relatively large expeditionary force abroad to be integrated into a larger FP army (Noronica might be the best option here), somewhat in the same vein as the Americans in WWI or maybe more accurately the Brazilians in WWII? This could supplement or replace the aspects of my nationbuilding involving the international brigades in Spain as well.
by Polar Svalbard » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:15 pm
Corindia wrote:Hey guys, still sort of struggling to find a good storyline for Corindia's involvement, would it be possible for us to send a relatively large expeditionary force abroad to be integrated into a larger FP army (Noronica might be the best option here), somewhat in the same vein as the Americans in WWI or maybe more accurately the Brazilians in WWII? This could supplement or replace the aspects of my nationbuilding involving the international brigades in Spain as well.
by Corindia » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:56 pm
Polar Svalbard wrote:Corindia wrote:Hey guys, still sort of struggling to find a good storyline for Corindia's involvement, would it be possible for us to send a relatively large expeditionary force abroad to be integrated into a larger FP army (Noronica might be the best option here), somewhat in the same vein as the Americans in WWI or maybe more accurately the Brazilians in WWII? This could supplement or replace the aspects of my nationbuilding involving the international brigades in Spain as well.
Probably would be cool if you sent them to either Polar Svalbard or Miklania, building a basis for the strong cooperation in the MSTO maybe
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by Dormill and Stiura » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:12 pm
by Polar Svalbard » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:13 pm
by Dormill and Stiura » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:15 pm
Polar Svalbard wrote:Supporting others in your faction. If you produce alot for other nations and defend yourself heavily, it makes it so that you're a factory that needs to be taken out, and quite possibly an important front for the Noronicans
by Corindia » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:19 pm
Dormill and Stiura wrote:So recently I've been trying to think about how exactly I got involved in the Imperial War other than just attacking Noro and losing eventually.
What can I honestly do with a fascist Dormill and Stiura during this time that isn't all Germany by invading literally everybody else in Gael?
Of the People, For the People
by Polar Svalbard » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:19 pm
Dormill and Stiura wrote:Polar Svalbard wrote:Supporting others in your faction. If you produce alot for other nations and defend yourself heavily, it makes it so that you're a factory that needs to be taken out, and quite possibly an important front for the Noronicans
It's possible to do that, but I feel like I'd have to make the industrial base for D&S several times more powerful than I originally thought of it before, and I don't want to be seen as godmodding D&S to such a power level.
by Dormill and Stiura » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:22 pm
Corindia wrote:Dormill and Stiura wrote:So recently I've been trying to think about how exactly I got involved in the Imperial War other than just attacking Noro and losing eventually.
What can I honestly do with a fascist Dormill and Stiura during this time that isn't all Germany by invading literally everybody else in Gael?
Could we start some sort of spat? Maybe over something small like fishing rights or an island that escalates and gets both of us entangled in this war?
Polar Svalbard wrote:Dormill and Stiura wrote:It's possible to do that, but I feel like I'd have to make the industrial base for D&S several times more powerful than I originally thought of it before, and I don't want to be seen as godmodding D&S to such a power level.
Could have it all pummeled into the fucking dirt by strategic bombing
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