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What is your political ideology?

Conservative
29
17%
Republican
5
3%
Authortarian
11
6%
Liberal
23
13%
Libertarian
18
10%
National Socialist
13
7%
Fascist
10
6%
Neo-Liberal
4
2%
Anarchist
15
9%
Other/apolitical
47
27%
 
Total votes : 175

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Metamen
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Founded: Nov 28, 2018
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Metamen » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:29 pm

"As long as what I am paying for somewhere returns to benefitting me. I don't care what it is. My political ideologies is as flip floppily as the League of Nations."

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Zetaopalatopia
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Founded: Aug 19, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Zetaopalatopia » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:05 pm

Moderated Meritocratic Demarchy, with a focus of effort and ability. The ideology does require a few givens to be effective, free education, and availability of information being among them. Ideally the pool of candidates would be chosen by public opinion as well as merit, with both weighted about the same.

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Thermodolia
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Posts: 52914
Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:07 pm

Metamen wrote:"As long as what I am paying for somewhere returns to benefitting me. I don't care what it is. My political ideologies is as flip floppily as the League of Nations."

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Internationalist Bastard
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:08 pm

I love these threads because it points out how there are die hard supporters of ideologies you've never heard of.
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A Cornstar
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Founded: Jul 13, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby A Cornstar » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:10 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Either way, it is how attempts at communism always seem to play out.

You used 1 example...

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I'm an economic centrist and social rightist(by a mix of state/social force and natural selection). Pagan religions are like fingers on a hand but Christianity is the palm. Foreign policy is whatever's most beneficial to my people, with the understanding that exploitation is undesirable as it embitters others who may well become the stronger.
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El-Amin Caliphate
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Founded: Apr 05, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:26 pm

A Cornstar wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:You used 1 example...

Image

Correct none of those examples in that meme are communist.
I'm an economic centrist and social rightist(by a mix of state/social force and natural selection).
A Cornstar wrote:Pagan religions are like fingers on a hand but Christianity is the palm.

Idk what you're saying here.
A Cornstar wrote:Foreign policy is whatever's most beneficial to my people, with the understanding that exploitation is undesirable as it embitters others who may well become the stronger.

Idk what you're saying here either.
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Forlania
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Posts: 88
Founded: Feb 13, 2013
Libertarian Police State

Postby Forlania » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:00 pm

Take a *rough* look at my nation and see for yourself.

I’m all for expansive civil rights, moderate amounts of free market regulation to protect consumers & the environment, and a monarchist/autocratic form of government to ensure the previously established rights/restrictions are enforced for the betterment of the people & aren’t ruined by an uninformed populace.

Basically a lot of people are dumb politically and I wouldn’t want to leave it in their hands.

I’m not suggesting this is a very realistic idea mind you, the potential for abuse of power is quite high and ensuring those in power truly had the interests of the people at heart is much easier said than done.
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A Cornstar
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Founded: Jul 13, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby A Cornstar » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:40 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
A Cornstar wrote:

Correct none of those examples in that meme are communist.
I'm an economic centrist and social rightist(by a mix of state/social force and natural selection).
A Cornstar wrote:Pagan religions are like fingers on a hand but Christianity is the palm.

Idk what you're saying here.
A Cornstar wrote:Foreign policy is whatever's most beneficial to my people, with the understanding that exploitation is undesirable as it embitters others who may well become the stronger.

Idk what you're saying here either.

Only the image was my response to you. The rest was me being on OP's topic. Perhaps that was unclear.

Image
Also the misspelling of 'It's' and the extra caps bother me, but my fault for sharing
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El-Amin Caliphate
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Founded: Apr 05, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:31 am

A Cornstar wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Correct none of those examples in that meme are communist.
I'm an economic centrist and social rightist(by a mix of state/social force and natural selection).
Idk what you're saying here.

Idk what you're saying here either.

Only the image was my response to you. The rest was me being on OP's topic. Perhaps that was unclear.

Ok, well can you explain those parts?
A Cornstar wrote:
(Image)
Also the misspelling of 'It's' and the extra caps bother me, but my fault for sharing

I don't think there's been a communist society to fail in modern history.
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Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

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Abarri
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Posts: 269
Founded: Aug 10, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Abarri » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:40 am

Left-leaning centrist libertarian...at least, that's what an online political alignment test told me.
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The Liberated Territories
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Posts: 11502
Founded: Dec 03, 2013
Capitalizt

Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:03 am

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Haeroe
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Posts: 2
Founded: Jan 23, 2019
Iron Fist Consumerists

Political Ideology

Postby Haeroe » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:06 am

I am a medeum-right capitalist :clap:

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A Cornstar
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Posts: 106
Founded: Jul 13, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby A Cornstar » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:08 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
A Cornstar wrote:Only the image was my response to you. The rest was me being on OP's topic. Perhaps that was unclear.

Ok, well can you explain those parts?
A Cornstar wrote:
(Image)
Also the misspelling of 'It's' and the extra caps bother me, but my fault for sharing

I don't think there's been a communist society to fail in modern history.

I have a general point of view that things left in the past actually have a a lot worth salvaging. The eastern and pagan western religions retain many valuable insights, but Christianity is the best choice for a central focus and top priority(In the west for continuity and in general for the usual reasons).

The comments regarding foreign policy have mainly to do with empire(although allowing your people to fight as mercenaries in conflicts that the state will not partake in is also a liability). The continually growing demand for resources is unsustainable and few have the foresight to retool in a timely manner. The typical response is to double down on cruelty until you've finally made enough enemies to destroy you, or allow yourself to be taken advantage of at every opportunity and you may be destroyed anyway.

If by modern you mean current. I don't know of any examples that aren't an embarrassment that haven't also incorporated elements of market economies. Barring some hypothetical far future tech, communism, besides material reasons, fails because it is a utopian ideology. Its followers understand human nature won't allow it to work, so they try to change it into something that can. While it is mutable, intentionally changing human nature towards an all new end is beyond the means of men. Yes, the ideology of A Cornstar also involves intentionally changing human nature, but towards an end that's been seen before, multiple times, hindsight is available and so one can replicate those results.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Founded: Apr 04, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:17 am

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El-Amin Caliphate
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Founded: Apr 05, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:16 am

Volkari wrote:That's ironically the same reaction I have to Islamism.

Why type of Islamism? There's several kinds.
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Obterlaisch
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Founded: Sep 14, 2018
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Obterlaisch » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:45 am

I took a test and I'm a Right Wing Authoritarian. But, I'm pretty balanced. Only leaning on capitalism, not hardcore. Well, I do love the free market :) . I am also a monarchic guy, so if you put make it a government type, I would be a Right Wing Absolute Monarchy.

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Helensburgh
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Founded: Feb 11, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Helensburgh » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:47 am

Liberal, Georgist, and market socialist. AKA Liberal Socialism/Social Democracy.
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Lyxtovia
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Founded: Jan 10, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Lyxtovia » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:54 am

A social-democratic constitutional monarchy, slowly gravitating towards socialism, since President Latovina was reelected in 2021. When it comes to civil rights though, we are pretty libertarian.
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Silver Commonwealth
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Founded: Aug 16, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Silver Commonwealth » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:08 am

Lyxtovia wrote:A social-democratic constitutional monarchy, slowly gravitating towards socialism, since President Latovina was reelected in 2021. When it comes to civil rights though, we are pretty libertarian.

Ehh, this is General, not ''Factbooks and National Information''. This is about your OOC views, not your nation's views.
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Lyxtovia
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Founded: Jan 10, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Lyxtovia » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:47 am

Silver Commonwealth wrote:
Lyxtovia wrote:A social-democratic constitutional monarchy, slowly gravitating towards socialism, since President Latovina was reelected in 2021. When it comes to civil rights though, we are pretty libertarian.

Ehh, this is General, not ''Factbooks and National Information''. This is about your OOC views, not your nation's views.

OK, but my OOC views mostly correlate with Lyxtovia's.
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Western Vale Confederacy
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Founded: Nov 09, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:53 am

Sooo apparently a "pornocracy" is a thing...

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The Blaatschapen
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Anarchy

Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:54 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Sooo apparently a "pornocracy" is a thing...


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Firaxin
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Firaxin » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:59 am

Unique Socialist, where a virtuous transhuman or AI that presides eternally commands all aspects of society so long as it acts virtuously. It would be given power by an automated system that would regularly check the Leader's actions, and then lock them out if the analysis found any problems, and begin looking for a suitable new leader or if none are available reinstate democratic control. Accurate analysis, and Leader's commands would be possible due to the high amount of future surveillance.

Until then, a temporary democratic government assisted by our most advanced computers will do.

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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Father Knows Best State

Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:37 am

Firaxin wrote:Unique Socialist, where a virtuous transhuman or AI that presides eternally commands all aspects of society so long as it acts virtuously. It would be given power by an automated system that would regularly check the Leader's actions, and then lock them out if the analysis found any problems, and begin looking for a suitable new leader or if none are available reinstate democratic control. Accurate analysis, and Leader's commands would be possible due to the high amount of future surveillance.

Until then, a temporary democratic government assisted by our most advanced computers will do.


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monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
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Nordengrund
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Founded: Jun 20, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Nordengrund » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:34 am

I’m a Georgist and a libertarian, but I think the U.S. Libertarian Party is too extreme on some issues, to me. I’m also a republican (small ‘R’).
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