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by Andromeda Islands » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:29 pm
by Andromeda Islands » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:33 pm
by The National Salvation Front for Russia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:07 pm
by Menassa » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:15 pm
Andromeda Islands wrote:[...]
If you don't everything in the Bible literally, how is one to determine what is literal and what is not?
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by Kowani » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:22 pm
GnosticChristian wrote:
That is why even the atheists are starting up churches. To give their kids a place of fellowship so that they do not end in seeking out the immoral mainstream religions and churches.
Regards
DL
by Menassa » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:23 pm
by Hakons » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:06 pm
Stonok wrote:Finally broke out of my shell and sung in the congregational hymns at church today. I didn't think I missed out on much by not singing but it does give you a nice feeling. Weird how that works.
by Andromeda Islands » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:08 pm
by Hakons » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:09 pm
The National Salvation Front for Russia wrote:What are some must-read texts if I want to become baptized into the Orthodox Church? I'm not even sure what iteration of the bible is used, such are the drawbacks of an atheist upbringing.
by Hakons » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:11 pm
Andromeda Islands wrote:There's also this:
https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2018/ ... ithout-god
Also in the US are a number of organizations like the Freedom from religion group (Ron Reagan)
The American Humanists,
and, of course
https://www.atheists.org
(392,000 members and supporters)
by Tarsonis » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:15 pm
The National Salvation Front for Russia wrote:What are some must-read texts if I want to become baptized into the Orthodox Church? I'm not even sure what iteration of the bible is used, such are the drawbacks of an atheist upbringing.
by Northern Davincia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:18 pm
GnosticChristian wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:If Jesus were not 100% human, His sacrifice means nothing (or significantly less) to mortal men. What is divine cannot truly die.
If Jesus were not 100% God, then scripture misleads us, which cannot be the case. The dual natures of Christ are a mystery that we cannot easily comprehend.
If a mystery, unknowable and unfathomable as scriptures indicate, then nothing can be known of God, let alone that he has three heads. Anything said of God becomes speculative nonsense.
Regards
DL
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Andromeda Islands » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:27 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:GnosticChristian wrote:
If a mystery, unknowable and unfathomable as scriptures indicate, then nothing can be known of God, let alone that he has three heads. Anything said of God becomes speculative nonsense.
Regards
DL
Are you suggesting that a being of infinite wisdom and power is easily knowable? God has properties that we cannot understand. We ascertain the qualities (revealed in scripture) that bring us closer to Him.
by The National Salvation Front for Russia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:33 pm
Tarsonis wrote:The National Salvation Front for Russia wrote:What are some must-read texts if I want to become baptized into the Orthodox Church? I'm not even sure what iteration of the bible is used, such are the drawbacks of an atheist upbringing.
Google the works of Dumitru Stăniloae and read anything with Orthodox in the title .
by Tarsonis » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:34 pm
by Northern Davincia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:37 pm
Andromeda Islands wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:Are you suggesting that a being of infinite wisdom and power is easily knowable? God has properties that we cannot understand. We ascertain the qualities (revealed in scripture) that bring us closer to Him.
Many people would regard believing in things that one can not understand as superstition.
I agree that such a belief is speculative, and subjective as well.
Although, as I pointed out earlier, a belief in religion, per se, is not necessary.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Hakons » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:37 pm
Andromeda Islands wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:Are you suggesting that a being of infinite wisdom and power is easily knowable? God has properties that we cannot understand. We ascertain the qualities (revealed in scripture) that bring us closer to Him.
Many people would regard believing in things that one can not understand as superstition.
I agree that such a belief is speculative, and subjective as well.
Although, as I pointed out earlier, a belief in religion, per se, is not necessary.
by The National Salvation Front for Russia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:38 pm
Tarsonis wrote:If I didn’t believe in the See of Rome, he’d have had me to concert to Orthodoxy in a heartbeat
by Andromeda Islands » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:43 pm
Hakons wrote:Andromeda Islands wrote:Many people would regard believing in things that one can not understand as superstition.
I agree that such a belief is speculative, and subjective as well.
Although, as I pointed out earlier, a belief in religion, per se, is not necessary.
We don't understand genetics all to well. We know what certain genetic proteins relate to, but we don't know how they do that. Now, is genetics superstition? Truly, it would be quite superstitious to think we know something entirely, without any room for the unknown!
by Northern Davincia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:47 pm
Andromeda Islands wrote:Hakons wrote:
We don't understand genetics all to well. We know what certain genetic proteins relate to, but we don't know how they do that. Now, is genetics superstition? Truly, it would be quite superstitious to think we know something entirely, without any room for the unknown!
Is their scientific evidence for anything spiritual? Science doesn't have all the answers, but it is based on empirical evidence, can you say the same thing about religion? To put it more bluntly spirituality isn't natural.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Andromeda Islands » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:48 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Andromeda Islands wrote:Many people would regard believing in things that one can not understand as superstition.
I agree that such a belief is speculative, and subjective as well.
Although, as I pointed out earlier, a belief in religion, per se, is not necessary.
There is much in the universe that we do not, or cannot, understand.
by Andromeda Islands » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:51 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Andromeda Islands wrote:
Is their scientific evidence for anything spiritual? Science doesn't have all the answers, but it is based on empirical evidence, can you say the same thing about religion? To put it more bluntly spirituality isn't natural.
Spirituality, in reference to human attraction to the spiritual, is natural. There are a handful of miracles with scientific backing.
by Hakons » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:54 pm
Andromeda Islands wrote:Hakons wrote:
We don't understand genetics all to well. We know what certain genetic proteins relate to, but we don't know how they do that. Now, is genetics superstition? Truly, it would be quite superstitious to think we know something entirely, without any room for the unknown!
Is their scientific evidence for anything spiritual? Science doesn't have all the answers, but it is based on empirical evidence, can you say the same thing about religion? To put it more bluntly spirituality isn't natural.
by Andromeda Islands » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:54 pm
by Northern Davincia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:56 pm
Andromeda Islands wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:Spirituality, in reference to human attraction to the spiritual, is natural. There are a handful of miracles with scientific backing.
Yes, humans can have an attraction to religion and can have a concept of a deity, but does that make either of those things true?
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
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