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Postby Joohan » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:31 pm

This makes sense

http://dichotomytests.com/results.html? ... =-10&s=-75

though monotheism really is a pretty broad area of theology, so pretty vague
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:44 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Reikoku wrote:As opposed to Canada or the UK which are glorious caesaropapist monarchies ruled over by Prince Regent Charles where the masses know their place and the guild system is working as perfectly as ever.


All sarcasm aside, many of the modern day problems in Britain and Canada are either a result of American influence, or at least the same philosophies of the so-called "Enlightenment" which influenced the American "Founding Fathers".

The problems would have arisen anyway. The groundwork was laid with the defeat of the Royalists during the English Civil Wars and especially after the "Glorious" Revolution. After that the monarchy was continuously sidelined and its power limited overtime.

It's worth noting that not many despots were able to fully stem the tide either.
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Postby Zex » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:45 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Zex wrote:just about everyone gets that ideal prag at 50/50

Not me! :)
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http://www.dichotomytests.com/results.h ... =57.5&s=10

The reason I don't much care for this kind of stuff is because in a Top 5 figures poll I did: my first was Ayn Rand, second I had Karl Marx, and third had something to do with Monarchy. I am skeptical of these polls and assert they are equal in usability to those surveys you can do with Scientology (i.e. none what so ever).
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Postby Zex » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:46 pm

Actually, who here wants to do Scientology polls and post our results after doing an interview?
EDIT: jesus nvm it's like 200 question.
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Postby Reikoku » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:49 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavophilia

The Slavophiles were the best movement in 19th century Eastern Europe.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:20 pm

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Postby Bienenhalde » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:44 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:With regards to the Monarchy in America debate; Ideally, as Parkus has stated many times, the best thing to do with the United States is just change the franchise as well as governmental structure. My personal list:
- Re-institution of literacy tests

That might be a good idea; perhaps without so many uneducated voters Trump would have lost in the primary.

and poll taxes with objective standards; I have no intention of it functioning as these did in the South in the 20th Century, but it does seem rather odd we have civil service exams but allow universal suffrage.
- Re-institution of property qualifications

Wouldn't poll taxes and property qualifications just make the system more biased in favor of rich capitalists and big business?

- The overturning of Reynolds v. Sims and applying it to all levels of voting
- Revocation of the 17th Amendment, returning control of the Senate to the States

I suppose those would be steps in the right direction.

- Revocation of the 19th Amendment

Absolutely not. Besides the blatant unfairness of restricting the vote based on sex, women also tend to be more religious than men. I think the electorate is already too secular and socially liberal as things currently stand.

- Single six year term for Presidents
- Four year terms for House members

What difference would this make? And anyway, I am still convinced that it would be better just to abolish the presidency and restore monarchy.

- Campaign finance reform, most obviously by ending Citizens United

Okay.

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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:49 pm

Reikoku wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavophilia

The Slavophiles were the best movement in 19th century Eastern Europe.


Not the worst one, at the very least.
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Postby Mardla » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:26 pm

Reikoku wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavophilia

The Slavophiles were the best movement in 19th century Eastern Europe.

This is true. They helped roll back Peter the Great's bs. Khomiakov is now actually quoted as an authority among the Orthodox.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:27 pm

Mardla wrote:
Reikoku wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavophilia

The Slavophiles were the best movement in 19th century Eastern Europe.

This is true. They helped roll back Peter the Great's bs. Khomiakov is now actually quoted as an authority among the Orthodox.

Peter the Great should be made a saint, to be honest.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:28 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Mardla wrote:This is true. They helped roll back Peter the Great's bs. Khomiakov is now actually quoted as an authority among the Orthodox.

Peter the Great should be made a saint, to be honest.


But he told people they couldn't grow beards.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:30 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Peter the Great should be made a saint, to be honest.


But he told people they couldn't grow beards.

Even the greatest of men have flaws.
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Postby Mardla » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:35 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Mardla wrote:This is true. They helped roll back Peter the Great's bs. Khomiakov is now actually quoted as an authority among the Orthodox.

Peter the Great should be made a saint, to be honest.

He drsstically expanded serfdom, seized all church property, banned women from.becoming nuns except for old widows, and told priests they must report confession of crime to the state. He adnired Protestant stste churches and wanted the Russisn Orthodox Church to be like them.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:49 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:With regards to the Monarchy in America debate; Ideally, as Parkus has stated many times, the best thing to do with the United States is just change the franchise as well as governmental structure. My personal list:

- Re-institution of literacy tests and poll taxes with objective standards; I have no intention of it functioning as these did in the South in the 20th Century, but it does seem rather odd we have civil service exams but allow universal suffrage.

1: What will there tests entail?
2: What's a civil service exam?
3: What do you mean by "universal suffrage"? Everyone having the right to vote?
Oil exporting People wrote:- Re-institution of property qualifications

What do you mean?
Oil exporting People wrote:- The overturning of Reynolds v. Sims and applying it to all levels of voting

What was that case about?
Oil exporting People wrote:- Revocation of the 17th Amendment, returning control of the Senate to the States

>Looks up
How would that give Senate power to the states again? They already have representation in the federal gov.
Oil exporting People wrote:- Revocation of the 19th Amendment

Didn't that give women the right to vote?
Oil exporting People wrote:- Campaign finance reform, most obviously by ending Citizens United

Who are they?
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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:Not me! :)
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http://www.dichotomytests.com/results.h ... =57.5&s=10

The reason I don't much care for this kind of stuff is because in a Top 5 figures poll I did: my first was Ayn Rand, second I had Karl Marx, and third had something to do with Monarchy. I am skeptical of these polls and assert they are equal in usability to those surveys you can do with Scientology (i.e. none what so ever).

Point made. I'll just stay with taking my morality from the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah.
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Northern Davincia wrote:Peter the Great should be made a saint, to be honest.


But he told people they couldn't grow beards.

Did he enforce that on Muslim men?

As I understand it, Muslims had a rough life in Russia in certain time periods, so I'm asking this becaus of that. Also, how were Muslims treated under Peter?
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Why?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:51 pm

Mardla wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Peter the Great should be made a saint, to be honest.

He drsstically expanded serfdom, seized all church property, banned women from.becoming nuns except for old widows, and told priests they must report confession of crime to the state. He adnired Protestant stste churches and wanted the Russisn Orthodox Church to be like them.

I can forgive many things for men who force the Ottomans to heel.
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Postby Four Truths » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:13 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:With regards to the Monarchy in America debate; Ideally, as Parkus has stated many times, the best thing to do with the United States is just change the franchise as well as governmental structure. My personal list:

- Re-institution of literacy tests and poll taxes with objective standards; I have no intention of it functioning as these did in the South in the 20th Century, but it does seem rather odd we have civil service exams but allow universal suffrage.
- Re-institution of property qualifications
- The overturning of Reynolds v. Sims and applying it to all levels of voting
- Revocation of the 17th Amendment, returning control of the Senate to the States
- Revocation of the 19th Amendment
- Single six year term for Presidents
- Four year terms for House members
- Campaign finance reform, most obviously by ending Citizens United

How are you going to find a legitimate bloodline to rule over America?

An "American monarchy" is horseshit whipped up by disgusting Paradox Interactive fans.
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:17 pm

Four Truths wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:With regards to the Monarchy in America debate; Ideally, as Parkus has stated many times, the best thing to do with the United States is just change the franchise as well as governmental structure. My personal list:

- Re-institution of literacy tests and poll taxes with objective standards; I have no intention of it functioning as these did in the South in the 20th Century, but it does seem rather odd we have civil service exams but allow universal suffrage.
- Re-institution of property qualifications
- The overturning of Reynolds v. Sims and applying it to all levels of voting
- Revocation of the 17th Amendment, returning control of the Senate to the States
- Revocation of the 19th Amendment
- Single six year term for Presidents
- Four year terms for House members
- Campaign finance reform, most obviously by ending Citizens United

How are you going to find a legitimate bloodline to rule over America?

An "American monarchy" is horseshit whipped up by disgusting Paradox Interactive fans.


I take offense to that; how dare you compare my love for Paradox Interactive games to the damnable institutions of monarchy! :p
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Postby Four Truths » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:21 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Four Truths wrote:How are you going to find a legitimate bloodline to rule over America?

An "American monarchy" is horseshit whipped up by disgusting Paradox Interactive fans.


I take offense to that; how dare you compare my love for Paradox Interactive games to the damnable institutions of monarchy! :p

PI is genuinely terrible.
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Postby The National Salvation Front for Russia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:21 pm

Reikoku wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavophilia

The Slavophiles were the best movement in 19th century Eastern Europe.

Only until they realized that the Catholic Western Slavs were completely inimical to a united and strong Russian state. Aside from that, I also disagree with their weird idea that censorship and other forms of economic and political repression was somehow a "Western" influence, which imo just shows an over-romanticisation of Russia's past.
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Postby The National Salvation Front for Russia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:23 pm

Mardla wrote:This is true. They helped roll back Peter the Great's bs. Khomiakov is now actually quoted as an authority among the Orthodox.

I understand that you're an American Orthodox, but do you have any Russian roots? You seem to express a lot of interest/knowledge on Russian authors and history.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:28 pm

Four Truths wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
I take offense to that; how dare you compare my love for Paradox Interactive games to the damnable institutions of monarchy! :p

PI is genuinely terrible.

I like Stellaris.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:30 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Four Truths wrote:PI is genuinely terrible.

I like Stellaris.


I like HoI4: Kaiserreich.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:32 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I like Stellaris.


I like HoI4: Kaiserreich.

Can we revise history to make Kaiserreich true?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:33 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
I like HoI4: Kaiserreich.

Can we revise history to make Kaiserreich true?


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