US Midterm Elections Megathread III: Hitting The Wall

[Northern Davincia]

Aye. If the Reform Party makes a comeback, then we're in for a good time.

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Platform
The Reform Party platform includes the following:[4]

Maintaining a balanced budget, ensured by passing a Balanced Budget Amendment and changing budgeting practices, and paying down the federal debt
Campaign finance reform, including strict limits on campaign contributions and the outlawing of political action committees
Enforcement of existing immigration laws and opposition to illegal immigration
Opposition to free trade agreements like the North American Free Trade Agreement and Central America Free Trade Agreement, and a call for withdrawal from the World Trade Organization
Term limits on U.S. Representatives and Senators
Direct election of the United States President by popular vote and other election system reforms
Federal elections held on weekends or Election Day (on a Tuesday) made a national holiday

Oh. My. God. YES!

Ross Perot should have won.

[Washington Resistance Army]

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Oh. My. God. YES!

Ross Perot should have won.

You gotta love how the Reform Party was then thoroughly destroyed afterwards. Can't have anyone upsetting the status quo yo.

[Northern Davincia]

Ross Perot should have won.

You gotta love how the Reform Party was then thoroughly destroyed afterwards. Can't have anyone upsetting the status quo yo.

I would call it a beautiful, fiery death if it wasn't so grave for the country at large.

[Genivaria]

Ross Perot should have won.

You gotta love how the Reform Party was then thoroughly destroyed afterwards. Can't have anyone upsetting the status quo yo.

Can't allow the people to think they can actually decide things can we?

[Ifreann]

Aye. If the Reform Party makes a comeback, then we're in for a good time.

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*Googles*

Platform
The Reform Party platform includes the following:[4]

Maintaining a balanced budget, ensured by passing a Balanced Budget Amendment and changing budgeting practices, and paying down the federal debt
Campaign finance reform, including strict limits on campaign contributions and the outlawing of political action committees
Enforcement of existing immigration laws and opposition to illegal immigration
Opposition to free trade agreements like the North American Free Trade Agreement and Central America Free Trade Agreement, and a call for withdrawal from the World Trade Organization
Term limits on U.S. Representatives and Senators
Direct election of the United States President by popular vote and other election system reforms
Federal elections held on weekends or Election Day (on a Tuesday) made a national holiday

Oh. My. God. YES!

This is the same Reform Party that nominated Donald Trump to be their presidential candidate.

[Northern Davincia]

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Oh. My. God. YES!

This is the same Reform Party that nominated Donald Trump to be their presidential candidate.

I truly believe that a Trump victory in 2000 wouldn't be that bad. He was much more stable back then.

[Ifreann]

This is the same Reform Party that nominated Donald Trump to be their presidential candidate.

I truly believe that a Trump victory in 2000 wouldn't be that bad. He was much more stable back then.

More capable of speaking full sentences in English, certainly.

[Genivaria]

This is the same Reform Party that nominated Donald Trump to be their presidential candidate.

I truly believe that a Trump victory in 2000 wouldn't be that bad. He was much more stable back then.

Except for the whole Birther thing.

[The Black Forrest]

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Oh. My. God. YES!

Ross Perot should have won.

Sorry I threw up a little.

Not wanting to distract the thread with Perot talk; those were nice platforms. They would not have made much if any changes. Never mind the fact they couldn't sell the message.

[Northern Davincia]

I truly believe that a Trump victory in 2000 wouldn't be that bad. He was much more stable back then.

Except for the whole Birther thing.

That came much later.

[The Black Forrest]

Except for the whole Birther thing.

That came much later.

Hmmm? If Obama made the ticket back then.....I think it would have happened if not something worse......

[Ifreann]

Except for the whole Birther thing.

That came much later.

Six or seven years.

[Northern Davincia]

That came much later.

Hmmm? If Obama made the ticket back then.....I think it would have happened if not something worse......

Why something worse?

[San Lumen]

I'm from Illinois and my side wins all the time here. That doesn't mean I'm going to reject a better way of doing things.

But you’re not a partisan hack

Nor am I

[San Lumen]

Provide proof of your claim. That’s not proof that’s an opinion

No it's a fact, your representatives only represent their own agenda and interests and those who voted for them while the minority is ignored in our shit system. I say again PR is much better more free and fairere than FPTP.

You still have not provided proof of your claim

[Northern Davincia]

But you’re not a partisan hack

Nor am I

You haven't demonstrated otherwise.

[San Lumen]

Nor am I

You haven't demonstrated otherwise.

I said what reform I would endorse. I am not against changing the system but i do think a lot of the desire is due to one side not always winning and not out of wanting more democracy. To claim someone only represents those who vote for them is absurd.

Why does a rural county get funding for state highways in New York then if politicians only care about those who voted for them? Why should they even bother?

[Telconi]

You haven't demonstrated otherwise.

I said what reform I would endorse. I am not against changing the system but i do think a lot of the desire is due to one side not always winning and not out of wanting more democracy. To claim someone only represents those who vote for them is absurd.

Why does a rural county get funding for state highways in New York then if politicians only care about those who voted for them? Why should they even bother?

Because sometimes NYC politicians want to visit upstate, and they don't want their fancy car bouncing through a pothole.

[Senkaku]

I said what reform I would endorse. I am not against changing the system but i do think a lot of the desire is due to one side not always winning and not out of wanting more democracy. To claim someone only represents those who vote for them is absurd.

Why does a rural county get funding for state highways in New York then if politicians only care about those who voted for them? Why should they even bother?

Because sometimes NYC politicians want to visit upstate, and they don't want their fancy car bouncing through a pothole.

I can assure you NYC would much rather keep all the money it sends upstate and maybe use it to fix the damn MTA lol, so try again

[Telconi]

Because sometimes NYC politicians want to visit upstate, and they don't want their fancy car bouncing through a pothole.

I can assure you NYC would much rather keep all the money it sends upstate and maybe use it to fix the damn MTA lol, so try again

Do they do it purposely to allow you to shill for them on the internet?

[Northern Davincia]

You haven't demonstrated otherwise.

I said what reform I would endorse. I am not against changing the system but i do think a lot of the desire is due to one side not always winning and not out of wanting more democracy. To claim someone only represents those who vote for them is absurd.

Why does a rural county get funding for state highways in New York then if politicians only care about those who voted for them? Why should they even bother?

Commerce. It's the same reason imperialists build roads in colonies.
Republicans in the US House elections (for NY) won approximately 31% of the popular vote. However, they only won 6 seats. That is neither fair nor democratic.

[The Two Jerseys]

I said what reform I would endorse. I am not against changing the system but i do think a lot of the desire is due to one side not always winning and not out of wanting more democracy. To claim someone only represents those who vote for them is absurd.

Why does a rural county get funding for state highways in New York then if politicians only care about those who voted for them? Why should they even bother?

Commerce. It's the same reason imperialists build roads in colonies.

Plus when their party is in charge, "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" is wayyyyyyy easier.

Republicans in the US House elections (for NY) won approximately 31% of the popular vote. However, they only won 6 seats. That is neither fair nor democratic.

You're talking to someone who thinks that urging faithless electors to vote against Trump is "fair and democratic"...

[San Lumen]

I said what reform I would endorse. I am not against changing the system but i do think a lot of the desire is due to one side not always winning and not out of wanting more democracy. To claim someone only represents those who vote for them is absurd.

Why does a rural county get funding for state highways in New York then if politicians only care about those who voted for them? Why should they even bother?

Commerce. It's the same reason imperialists build roads in colonies.
Republicans in the US House elections (for NY) won approximately 31% of the popular vote. However, they only won 6 seats. That is neither fair nor democratic.

How is it neither fair nor democratic? You have a representative in Albany and Washington do you not? Or are you going to make the claim they don’t represent you because a majority of people in your district voted for the opposite person you did?

[Dresderstan]

Commerce. It's the same reason imperialists build roads in colonies.
Republicans in the US House elections (for NY) won approximately 31% of the popular vote. However, they only won 6 seats. That is neither fair nor democratic.

How is it neither fair nor democratic? You have a representative in Albany and Washington do you not? Or are you going to make the claim they don’t represent you because a majority of people in your district voted for the opposite person you did?

Because it's not real representation.

[Northern Davincia]

Commerce. It's the same reason imperialists build roads in colonies.
Republicans in the US House elections (for NY) won approximately 31% of the popular vote. However, they only won 6 seats. That is neither fair nor democratic.

How is it neither fair nor democratic? You have a representative in Albany and Washington do you not? Or are you going to make the claim they don’t represent you because a majority of people in your district voted for the opposite person you did?

It's not fair because Republicans are underrepresented. Europeans have this figured out; you have not. The GOP should have 31% of NY seats in Washington, instead of 22%.
My opinion on this wouldn't change regardless if New York was a heavily red state or if my preferred candidates won more frequently.