LWDT VI: Kropotkin's Bread Dead Redemption.

[Frievolk]

TIL'd that 71% of all of humanity = the 100 companies and corporations that are responsible for 71% of global emissions.

But many millions of people either work for those companies or participate in a the reckless consumerist culture from which such companies profit.

Honestly I feel like you underestimate the level of petty shit corporation are willing to do in order to make a profit. And yes, I'm talking about willingly contaminating wells in order to get their water bottles sold level of petty.
Blaming the normally unaware consumer or even the unaware employee for what the aware administration of a corporation is willing to do doesn't sound that good an idea to me. Maybe it's just me tho.

[Bienenhalde]

But many millions of people either work for those companies or participate in a the reckless consumerist culture from which such companies profit.

So destroy both those companies and the consumer culture. ;3

Yes, which is why I am sympathetic to a strong authoritarian state that can effectively crush big companies and enforce cultural change.

[Telconi]

But many millions of people either work for those companies or participate in a the reckless consumerist culture from which such companies profit.

So destroy both those companies and the consumer culture. ;3

All while not having any form of authority under which to do it!

[Torrocca]

So destroy both those companies and the consumer culture. ;3

All while not having any form of authority under which to do it!

A genuine revolution of the people wouldn't require authoritarianism to smash the current status quo into the dirt. :3

But many millions of people either work for those companies or participate in a the reckless consumerist culture from which such companies profit.

Honestly I feel like you underestimate the level of petty shit corporation are willing to do in order to make a profit. And yes, I'm talking about willingly contaminating wells in order to get their water bottles sold level of petty.
Blaming the normally unaware consumer or even the unaware employee for what the aware administration of a corporation is willing to do doesn't sound that good an idea to me. Maybe it's just me tho.

Daily reminder that the companies most involved in polluting the Earth are the same ones that've shifted production to countries with far looser environmental regulations and much lower incomes for their working class.

[Petrolheadia]

But many millions of people either work for those companies or participate in a the reckless consumerist culture from which such companies profit.

So destroy both those companies and the consumer culture. ;3

I prefer actually having cheap stuff.

The benefit of triggering lefting comes free.

[Torrocca]

So destroy both those companies and the consumer culture. ;3

I prefer actually having cheap stuff.

The benefit of triggering lefting comes free.

Imagine being fine with helping to destroy the Earth because you get to """trigger""" people lmao.

[Petrolheadia]

I prefer actually having cheap stuff.

The benefit of triggering lefting comes free.

Imagine being fine with helping to destroy the Earth because you get to """trigger""" people lmao.

Care to elaborate on the destruction scenario?

[Torrocca]

Imagine being fine with helping to destroy the Earth because you get to """trigger""" people lmao.

Care to elaborate on the destruction scenario?

This can say it way better than I can.

[Petrolheadia]

Care to elaborate on the destruction scenario?

This can say it way better than I can.

What if I told you that it does not account for possible future scientific advances, just like the Malthusian trap did years before?

[Torrocca]

This can say it way better than I can.

What if I told you that it does not account for possible future scientific advances, just like the Malthusian trap did years before?

And how are these """possible""" scientific advances going to quickly reverse that massive, unending fucking increase in CO2 that's been being created primarily because of Capitalist intent?

[Telconi]

All while not having any form of authority under which to do it!

A genuine revolution of the people wouldn't require authoritarianism to smash the current status quo into the dirt. :3

Honestly I feel like you underestimate the level of petty shit corporation are willing to do in order to make a profit. And yes, I'm talking about willingly contaminating wells in order to get their water bottles sold level of petty.
Blaming the normally unaware consumer or even the unaware employee for what the aware administration of a corporation is willing to do doesn't sound that good an idea to me. Maybe it's just me tho.

Daily reminder that the companies most involved in polluting the Earth are the same ones that've shifted production to countries with far looser environmental regulations and much lower incomes for their working class.

Your genuine revolution is a dream that will never come true.

[Torrocca]

A genuine revolution of the people wouldn't require authoritarianism to smash the current status quo into the dirt. :3



Daily reminder that the companies most involved in polluting the Earth are the same ones that've shifted production to countries with far looser environmental regulations and much lower incomes for their working class.

Your genuine revolution is a dream that will never come true.

*Laughs in King George III*

You silly colonials and your pipe dream of an American revolution will never come to fruition!

[Western Vale Confederacy]

A genuine revolution of the people wouldn't require authoritarianism to smash the current status quo into the dirt. :3



Daily reminder that the companies most involved in polluting the Earth are the same ones that've shifted production to countries with far looser environmental regulations and much lower incomes for their working class.

Your genuine revolution is a dream that will never come true.

Pfft, revolutions...

Coups are far cleaner.

[Aellex]

Your genuine revolution is a dream that will never come true.

*Laughs in King George III*

You silly colonials and your pipe dream of an American revolution will never come to fruition!

No, but it required France to bankroll it entirely.
The U. R. S. S. has fallen. What Great Power do you expect to pay the price for that revolution to succeed?

[Torrocca]

*Laughs in King George III*

You silly colonials and your pipe dream of an American revolution will never come to fruition!

No, but it required France to bankroll it entirely.
The U. R. S. S. has fallen. What Great Power do you expect to pay the price for that revolution to succeed?

Anarchists, being Anarchists, don't need financiers and bankrolls :^)

[Western Vale Confederacy]

No, but it required France to bankroll it entirely.
The U. R. S. S. has fallen. What Great Power do you expect to pay the price for that revolution to succeed?

Anarchists, being Anarchists, don't need financiers and bankrolls :^)

I'm not sure if you are aware, but revolutions are quite expensive, and not just money-wise.

[Telconi]

Your genuine revolution is a dream that will never come true.

*Laughs in King George III*

You silly colonials and your pipe dream of an American revolution will never come to fruition!

*Laughs in continental congress*

It's almost like the rebels against king George had a mechanism to assert their authority...

[Proctopeo]

No, but it required France to bankroll it entirely.
The U. R. S. S. has fallen. What Great Power do you expect to pay the price for that revolution to succeed?

Anarchists, being Anarchists, don't need financiers and bankrolls :^)

I'm sure baseball bats, large sticks, and makeshift slingshots will work wonders against an organized military force.
It could, definitely, but you'd need the organized military force to be hilariously incompetent and/or a strong terrain advantage. Preferably both; if they're incompetent, but you're barely armed with sticks and stones, they can still pull out a victory by just having better weapons; if they're competent, but the terrain is disadvantageous for them (such as a jungle or a swamp), well, there's ways around that which guerrilla warfare can't effectively counter, primarily napalm and really big bombs. This goes double if you have little to no outside support.

[Aellex]

No, but it required France to bankroll it entirely.
The U. R. S. S. has fallen. What Great Power do you expect to pay the price for that revolution to succeed?

Anarchists, being Anarchists, don't need financiers and bankrolls :^)

Even when they get them, they still fail anyway so hé... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Libertarian Communist Planets]

Yes, which is why I am sympathetic to a strong authoritarian state that can effectively crush big companies and enforce cultural change.

What will happen to that hypothetical strong authoritarian state after it crushes those big companies, etc.? Will it just go away? Unlikely. One problem will simply be replaced with another one.

[Telconi]

Yes, which is why I am sympathetic to a strong authoritarian state that can effectively crush big companies and enforce cultural change.

What will happen to that hypothetical strong authoritarian state after it crushes those big companies, etc.? Will it just go away? Unlikely. One problem will simply be replaced with another one.

That's the way of the world, replacing bigger problems with lesser problems. The endless nirvana fallacy, or, in this case, communism fallacy, will forever impede progress.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

It's not specifically Trump's choice of words, I suppose; he is merely an example, albeit an obvious one. It's the views he holds that I'm pointing to as being dehumanizing - a view shared by others beyond him, a view carried into being through his administration, and so on. So it's not really about the issue of whether we need open borders, simply that the contempt which people like him have for others and is still prevalent in the First World.

Having completely open borders would eliminate the first and third worlds. It would just be one world.

[The New California Republic]

It's not specifically Trump's choice of words, I suppose; he is merely an example, albeit an obvious one. It's the views he holds that I'm pointing to as being dehumanizing - a view shared by others beyond him, a view carried into being through his administration, and so on. So it's not really about the issue of whether we need open borders, simply that the contempt which people like him have for others and is still prevalent in the First World.

Having completely open borders would eliminate the first and third worlds. It would just be one world.

No it wouldn't. Ownership and movement of goods and capital, not movement of people, are far more decisive factors...

[Proctopeo]

It's not specifically Trump's choice of words, I suppose; he is merely an example, albeit an obvious one. It's the views he holds that I'm pointing to as being dehumanizing - a view shared by others beyond him, a view carried into being through his administration, and so on. So it's not really about the issue of whether we need open borders, simply that the contempt which people like him have for others and is still prevalent in the First World.

Having completely open borders would eliminate the first and third worlds. It would just be one world.

Wow, two pipe dreams in one.
That's impressive.

[Valrifell]

Having completely open borders would eliminate the first and third worlds. It would just be one world.

Wow, two pipe dreams in one.
That's impressive.

Some day I wish you'll join us, and the world can be as one.