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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:48 pm

Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:

The terrorist was born in Strasbourg.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:49 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:Well too bad. I believe in the one true God, and why would we celebrate the death of the clergy? The death of anyone is nothing to celebrate.

Well too bad? I'm glad i'm no longer forced to live by YOUR backwards laws. Too bad for those would like to force us to do so.

Dude I don't think he's Muslim.
Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:

Man's not an illegal immigrant, however.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:49 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Olerand wrote:Uh, for the IRA, because it is.

Also, Kashmir is between Hindus and Muslims.


Well yeah I don't disagree with your assessment about the IRA, I was more focussing on the public's double standards rather than starting a discussion on the degree of religious influence on each of those organisations.

The IRA is simply not a good example. They were Irish nationalists, fighting for Ireland, not the Pope. Islamists kill for their religion. The difference is rather evident.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:49 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
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American Exceptionalism strikes again!

Just how exactly does America become the topic in a thread about a French terrorist attack?


This never would've happened if Napoleon hadn't whored out the rightful French territory of Louisiana to America, duh.

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Remember that time when Christianity bent the knee to the threat of DESTRUCTION by atheistic FACTS and LOGIC so hard that nearly two billion people across the world are Christians today?


No but i do remember the days where we guillotined the fucking priests who allowed nobles to rape and steal as they wanted. And when we seperated Church and State and forced them to accept science as a fact.


Ah, yes, I too remember how that happened as recently as... whenever you could start to remember days.

As we all know, now, the entirety of Christendom has submitted itself to Atheist Jesus.

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Remember that time when Christianity bent the knee to the threat of DESTRUCTION by atheistic FACTS and LOGIC so hard that nearly two billion people across the world are Christians today?

Well, the Church being able to persecute people made it somewhat easier to maintain its status.


Are you saying the Church did things hypocritical to Christian morals and atrociously persecuted people? Well I never!

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American Exceptionalism strikes again!


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Postby Netherspace » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:49 pm

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Toaslandia wrote:Bend the knee? The Vatican is a free state. And Submit or die? Are you f****** crazy?! You're being like Joffery Baratheon.


Remember that time when Christianity bent the knee to the threat of DESTRUCTION by atheistic FACTS and LOGIC so hard that nearly two billion people across the world are Christians today?


Oh, yeah, because everyone was atheist before Christianity. Not like the pagan religions were actually more illogical than Christianity or anything. Also, no one in human history has every willingly converted to Christianity!

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:49 pm

Purgatio wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Yeah, just destroy Islam because some people take the mantle to become terrorists.

And Christians, because of the IRA.

And Buddhists, because of the Kashmir.


When it comes to the KKK or the Lord's Resistance Army or the IRA or the Colorado PP shooting, people seem to see Christianity as the bug and the terrorist's violent tendencies as the feature.

When it comes to Islamist terrorist attacks, in the eyes of the public's double standards, the relationship gets reversed - the terrorist's violence tendencies are the bug, and Islam becomes the feature.


I see quite the opposite, particularly in America. When a shooting happens or an abortion clinic gets bombed, he's a deranged lone wolf who acted alone and existed in a vacuum. When a Muslim does something, suddenly their whole life story becomes relevant and we need to know how s/he got radicalized.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:49 pm

Olerand wrote:
Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:

The terrorist was born in Strasbourg.

He's not a "real german", I guess?
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:50 pm

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"Hey guys, don't stop Nazis just because of Hitler and his buddies! Real Nazis are really nice!" You, 2018


More like, “don’t stop white people, nationalists, and Christians because of Nazism! Not everyone who is minority’s like Hitler is a Nazi!”. What race and religion are you?


White people don't have a holy book telling to kill people.
Nationalists are different in size, shape and form.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:50 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
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Being Muslim is punishable by death in Saudi Arabia?

Saudi Arabia mandates child molestation now? Do tell...


Well it does have no age of consent. Only that the two people must be married. There is also no minimum age for marriage.

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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:50 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Sukberia wrote:Well too bad? I'm glad i'm no longer forced to live by YOUR backwards laws. Too bad for those would like to force us to do so.

Dude I don't think he's Muslim.
Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:

Man's not an illegal immigrant, however.

Yo are right, I'm not. I don't, however, appreciate the hatred against Islam as I know several people who are Muslim.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:50 pm

Olerand wrote:
Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:

The terrorist was born in Strasbourg.

Terrorism is genetic.
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Postby Right wing humour squad » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:50 pm

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It is, in as much as venerating a paedophille is concerned.

So, we’ve had this discussion in the IDT. It took a very long time. Then the mods stepped in. Regardless of veracity, we cannot argue about whether Muhammad was a pedophile.


I’m not aware of this ruling. Seems counterintuitive since it’s the central fact of Islam.
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:50 pm

Olerand wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
Well yeah I don't disagree with your assessment about the IRA, I was more focussing on the public's double standards rather than starting a discussion on the degree of religious influence on each of those organisations.

The IRA is simply not a good example. They were Irish nationalists, fighting for Ireland, not the Pope. Islamists kill for their religion. The difference is rather evident.


They are also the product of Protestant-Catholic religious sectarian tensions within Ireland and Northern Ireland, I don't think we can deny the influence of religion on the IRA.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:50 pm

Olerand wrote:
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It's edgy and cool 8)

It's also in bad taste, but, again, one needs to be able to identify the concept first.


My comment was sarcasm, but I have no idea what Kubumba is going on about anymore.
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:50 pm

Sukberia wrote:
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More like, “don’t stop white people, nationalists, and Christians because of Nazism! Not everyone who is minority’s like Hitler is a Nazi!”. What race and religion are you?


White people don't have a holy book telling to kill people.
Nationalists are different in size, shape and form.

Christians have already stopped when we separated Church and State.

I'm an white atheist.

I've realized this because if you believed in a religion, you would not get the fun afterlife.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:50 pm

Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:

No it's not.
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Postby Zordennox » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:51 pm

Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:


Exactly, we must stop the madness.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:51 pm

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Kowani wrote:So, we’ve had this discussion in the IDT. It took a very long time. Then the mods stepped in. Regardless of veracity, we cannot argue about whether Muhammad was a pedophile.


I’m not aware of this ruling. Seems counterintuitive since it’s the central fact of Islam.

You have sources that Muslims are the biggest child molestors in the world then?
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:51 pm

Netherspace wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Remember that time when Christianity bent the knee to the threat of DESTRUCTION by atheistic FACTS and LOGIC so hard that nearly two billion people across the world are Christians today?


Oh, yeah, because everyone was atheist before Christianity. Not like the pagan religions were actually more illogical than Christianity or anything. Also, no one in human history has every willingly converted to Christianity!


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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:51 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
No but i do remember the days where we guillotined the fucking priests who allowed nobles to rape and steal as they wanted. And when we seperated Church and State and forced them to accept science as a fact.

Well too bad. I believe in the one true God, and why would we celebrate the death of the clergy? The death of anyone is nothing to celebrate.

Let us know when you can actually prove your God’s existence.

But. Clergy that stood by and allowed (and sometimes perpetuated) Noble abuses, or were the perpetrators of them...I’m not shedding a tear over their deaths.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:51 pm

Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:


From what I heard, this guy was born in Strasbourg. But sure, letting in those homeless tricksters trying to flee war torn nations is doing this.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:51 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Netherspace wrote:
More like, “don’t stop white people, nationalists, and Christians because of Nazism! Not everyone who is minority’s like Hitler is a Nazi!”. What race and religion are you?


White people don't have a holy book telling to kill people.
Nationalists are different in size, shape and form.

Christians have already stopped when we separated Church and State.

I'm an white atheist.

my dude. Cool it. Only the radical fundamentalists branch of Islam tries to wreak holy war.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:51 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Olerand wrote:The IRA is simply not a good example. They were Irish nationalists, fighting for Ireland, not the Pope. Islamists kill for their religion. The difference is rather evident.


They are also the product of Protestant-Catholic religious sectarian tensions within Ireland and Northern Ireland, I don't think we can deny the influence of religion on the IRA.


The IRA was, in theory, Marxist.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:51 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Olerand wrote:The terrorist was born in Strasbourg.

He's not a "real german", I guess?

The Alsaciens are French. We don't know who he is, the identity is not revealed until he is in custody.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:52 pm

Zordennox wrote:
Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:


Exactly, we must stop the madness.

He. Was. Born. In. Strasbourg.
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