Draganisia wrote:OOC: I said to ignore that post but forgot people here are incapable of listening to others.
I dunno why should we ignore this post? It gives us a prime insight how the NPO culture is and most importantly: why we shouldnt trust it.
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by Kurnugia » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:55 am
Draganisia wrote:OOC: I said to ignore that post but forgot people here are incapable of listening to others.
by Draganisia » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:56 am
by Bowzin » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:00 am
Draganisia wrote:Armaros wrote:
If you don't want people responding to it, don't post it.
Also, am I the only one who finds it ironic you say others are incapable of listening?
There is a difference between listening and believing.
Sure I may read other's posts but that does not mean they are all true.
Same goes for anyone's posts including my own.
by Draganisia » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:07 am
by Consular » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:39 am
Draganisia wrote:OOC: I said to ignore that post but forgot people here are incapable of listening to others.
by Frattastan IV » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:27 am
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:It would take some truly quality diplomatic work to arrange a peace deal, and I don't see any likelihood of the two sides coming together to arrange normalized relations.
Draganisia wrote:Also it seems the next war could be NPO fighting directly against Pacifica.
by Unibot III » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:37 am
Frattastan IV wrote:Klaus Devestatorie wrote:It would take some truly quality diplomatic work to arrange a peace deal, and I don't see any likelihood of the two sides coming together to arrange normalized relations.
I disagree on that bit.
Stuff like that TNI-FRA "war" could go on for a decade because the two parties would stick to their core ideologies, and those ideologies would be impossible to reconcile (and also because regions like TNI thrived on the idea of war).
The Pacific on the other hand has a much greater capacity to realign its foreign policy until it's amenable to Euro or TBH: many of its past leaders were inclined to keep good relations with invaders and independents, and didn't even identify themselves as Francoists. If said shift happens the main actors will have no interest in continuing the war.
Given that this was accomplished before, and arguably under much trying circumstances, there is no reason why it shouldn't happen again.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by The Gilded Star » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:40 am
by Milozoldyck » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:08 am
Unibot III wrote:Frattastan IV wrote:
I disagree on that bit.
Stuff like that TNI-FRA "war" could go on for a decade because the two parties would stick to their core ideologies, and those ideologies would be impossible to reconcile (and also because regions like TNI thrived on the idea of war).
The Pacific on the other hand has a much greater capacity to realign its foreign policy until it's amenable to Euro or TBH: many of its past leaders were inclined to keep good relations with invaders and independents, and didn't even identify themselves as Francoists. If said shift happens the main actors will have no interest in continuing the war.
Given that this was accomplished before, and arguably under much trying circumstances, there is no reason why it shouldn't happen again.
It'll end if defenders get stronger in an organizational sense.
You could argue though this war has been going on since the summer of 2013 unofficially. 2015 was just a false reprieve led by Ivan.
by 2SDOATS » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:19 pm
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:You misstate so many basic facts of the incidents at hand that your nonsense is not even worth an in-detail reply, lol.
Come back when you understand that The NPO are not moralistic defenders, that "the battlefield" is not "warzone regions," that the NPO had a NAP with TBH and not an alliance, and that the NPO is not out to help anyone besides itself, kid.
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:23 pm
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Armaros » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:38 pm
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:I gave him a few honest, equal, in depth replies first, but I'm not going to waste my time replying to someone who literally does not understand the facts of the situation, and who was in the middle of demonstrating that they had no present intention of starting to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:16 pm
Armaros wrote:Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:I gave him a few honest, equal, in depth replies first, but I'm not going to waste my time replying to someone who literally does not understand the facts of the situation, and who was in the middle of demonstrating that they had no present intention of starting to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Then what the heck are you doing right now, if you're not replying to people who have no idea what they talk about?
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by The Church of Satan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:33 pm
by Reploid Productions » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:13 pm
2SDOATS wrote:Sona big fuxk TBH and souls for his condecending aattitude towards a newbie instead of tryong to help them make it better.
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Grownthe fufuckpfuckp and stop being bitches all of you.
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Stop trying to social justice warrior this place fufuck your equality and hate speech.
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Toads out. For good now because all you people have ruined what max berry set out to prove. The only thing you made was another Verison of high school... But where the nerds rule and are the most spitful hurt insecure jackassesjackasses to revenge some irl hurt you went through cause you cant deal outside life.
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.
by Escade » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:17 pm
The Church of Satan wrote:In my time on NS there are some things that never seem to change. Incidents such as those involving the NPO are one such example. So there's a couple things I want to say.
First to the regions that have issued statements condemning the actions of the NPO. This includes TRR. I won't make TRR an exception because it's my home region: I don't believe your statements are sincere. Sure you condemn the NPO now but you only mean to do so now. In the next couple of years you'll re-establish your embassies and be back to business as usual. Just like the NLO coup you'll ultimately forgive them when the heat dies down even though they are not worth forgiving. So what is the purpose of your statement? That is a simple answer. It's only empty posturing that most of you did just because everyone else did it and you didn't want to be left out because it would make you look bad. If your statements are truly sincere then in five years or more you'll have continued to maintain your attitude towards the NPO. However I'm certain that will not be the case. In all likelihood the only regions that will maintain their attitudes are those that the NPO have attacked and only insofar as their governments are the same ones that made those statements.
Second, to the regions that have declared war on the NPO: I doubt your resolve. I doubt you will maintain your war for long. I believe that most of you will give up on this war by the end of the month. I believe that you will quietly give up on this war. If you're so against the actions of the NPO then don't give up. Keep fighting until victory is achieved. Keep going for as long as it takes. Otherwise don't fight in the first place. If you start your war with the intention of giving up when disapproving of the NPO's actions are no longer popular or relevant then you have simply wasted your time making your declaration in the first place. If your intentions to fight your war are genuine then you will see it through until their is an unquestionable victor no matter how small your chances of defeating the NPO are.
I'm not saying either of these with the idea that they should only be done to prove me wrong. I'm saying these things because if you believe your words to be true then you should see them through to the only conclusions your words and actions intended, "yes" or "no", "victory" or "defeat".
by The Church of Satan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:34 pm
by T-ara » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:25 pm
by The Church of Satan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:34 pm
T-ara wrote:How would another GCR be victimized? The people who had an interest in intervening in other region's politics are gone. No one left really ever prioritized adventurism. There's a much different mindset involved with the current person in charge and he isn't interested in projecting power by taking other regions. The priorities of those involved in the Lazarus/Osiris things are much different than the ones of the current NPO government. They had a vested interest in projecting influence and gaining power in other GCRs. That was their history and main motivation for playing hence the rerolls/alts/covert ops/etc.
by Cormactopia Prime » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:06 pm
The Church of Satan wrote:That's the problem. If someone is gonna declare war then they ought to put their money where their mouth is. If they're gonna just say they're declaring war then they're not declaring war. They're merely stating that they intend to argue for a couple weeks rather than actually do something. Some of them even say they intend to bring some form of change but without backing up their words with action nothing will change. The NPO will simply attack another GCR and the cycle will repeat itself. If they're just gonna do nothing then they don't need a political statement to argue and debate about something that won't happen.
by The Church of Satan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:20 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:There actually is stuff being done. It's just not big and flashy, so it hasn't been noticed by a lot of gameplayers who aren't involved.
Not saying that to be rude, I just wanted to point out though that the regions at war are in fact doing things, just nothing super attention grabbing.
by Unibot III » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:20 pm
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:51 pm
In accordance with game mechanics, the World Assembly Delegate (hereafter Emperor) possesses unrestricted authority over all aspects of regional government- in-game and otherwise.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by The Gilded Star » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:07 pm
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:09 pm
The Gilded Star wrote:Seems like we're all kinda waiting around until East Durthang is padded with enough endorsements to formally conclude the succession. Though it is mildly eyebrow-raising as to why it's taking this long, as I would normally expect the NPO to act much more swiftly.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
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