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Postby Telconi » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:22 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:The thing about economic anxiety is that at the end of the day, the promises of the democrats sound sweeter to those affected by it. Young people are typically afraid because frankly, living is expensive. All of the insurance, the cost of apartments, food, electric, clothes. Hell most people I know won’t have kids purely for economic reasons, myself included. And all of this is fed more by this feeling that frankly nobody is getting paid enough unless they go horribly in debt to go to college


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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:23 pm

Telconi wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:The thing about economic anxiety is that at the end of the day, the promises of the democrats sound sweeter to those affected by it. Young people are typically afraid because frankly, living is expensive. All of the insurance, the cost of apartments, food, electric, clothes. Hell most people I know won’t have kids purely for economic reasons, myself included. And all of this is fed more by this feeling that frankly nobody is getting paid enough unless they go horribly in debt to go to college


Iunno about where you're from, but where I'm st, they really don't...

To which part of this, there’s a lot there
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:23 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:The thing about economic anxiety is that at the end of the day, the promises of the democrats sound sweeter to those affected by it. Young people are typically afraid because frankly, living is expensive. All of the insurance, the cost of apartments, food, electric, clothes. Hell most people I know won’t have kids purely for economic reasons, myself included. And all of this is fed more by this feeling that frankly nobody is getting paid enough unless they go horribly in debt to go to college


What is this thing about economic anxiety? I've clearly missed something.

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:23 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:The thing about economic anxiety is that at the end of the day, the promises of the democrats sound sweeter to those affected by it. Young people are typically afraid because frankly, living is expensive. All of the insurance, the cost of apartments, food, electric, clothes. Hell most people I know won’t have kids purely for economic reasons, myself included. And all of this is fed more by this feeling that frankly nobody is getting paid enough unless they go horribly in debt to go to college


The real thing about economic anxiety, and how it ties to the racism bit, is that people are fooled into thinking other poor and disadvantaged people are somehow to blame.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:24 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:The thing about economic anxiety is that at the end of the day, the promises of the democrats sound sweeter to those affected by it. Young people are typically afraid because frankly, living is expensive. All of the insurance, the cost of apartments, food, electric, clothes. Hell most people I know won’t have kids purely for economic reasons, myself included. And all of this is fed more by this feeling that frankly nobody is getting paid enough unless they go horribly in debt to go to college

No doubt, the promises sound nicer. Things like rent control end in total disaster, but it sounds nice in theory.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:24 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:The thing about economic anxiety is that at the end of the day, the promises of the democrats sound sweeter to those affected by it. Young people are typically afraid because frankly, living is expensive. All of the insurance, the cost of apartments, food, electric, clothes. Hell most people I know won’t have kids purely for economic reasons, myself included. And all of this is fed more by this feeling that frankly nobody is getting paid enough unless they go horribly in debt to go to college


What is this thing about economic anxiety? I've clearly missed something.

Basically it’s a hesitance to really contribute to the market because your not sure the market is gonna contribute back
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:25 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:The thing about economic anxiety is that at the end of the day, the promises of the democrats sound sweeter to those affected by it. Young people are typically afraid because frankly, living is expensive. All of the insurance, the cost of apartments, food, electric, clothes. Hell most people I know won’t have kids purely for economic reasons, myself included. And all of this is fed more by this feeling that frankly nobody is getting paid enough unless they go horribly in debt to go to college

No doubt, the promises sound nicer. Things like rent control end in total disaster, but it sounds nice in theory.

I don’t pretend to know economics. All I know is that I’m always scared about finances and most people I know are too
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:28 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:No doubt, the promises sound nicer. Things like rent control end in total disaster, but it sounds nice in theory.

I don’t pretend to know economics. All I know is that I’m always scared about finances and most people I know are too

Just about everyone is, especially in this age where the finances are hitting the roof.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:34 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:No doubt, the promises sound nicer. Things like rent control end in total disaster, but it sounds nice in theory.

I don’t pretend to know economics. All I know is that I’m always scared about finances and most people I know are too

The scary part is that people who don't know economics are voting for candidates equally ignorant.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:36 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I don’t pretend to know economics. All I know is that I’m always scared about finances and most people I know are too

The scary part is that people who don't know economics are voting for candidates equally ignorant.

Just do what I do and throw your vote away
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:46 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The scary part is that people who don't know economics are voting for candidates equally ignorant.

Just do what I do and throw your vote away

I already voted for Gary Johnson. :(
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:01 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Just do what I do and throw your vote away

I already voted for Gary Johnson. :(

Woo third party train!
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:03 pm


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Postby North Prarie » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:09 pm

So, is this a thread for conservatives, orrrrrr......
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:10 pm

North Prarie wrote:So, is this a thread for conservatives, orrrrrr......
Democratic socialist looking to have a friendly debate.


This is a thread for discussing the life and times of Donald J Trump, President of these United States.

You may be more interested in the Left-Wind Discussion Thread, commonly abbreviated LWDT or one of the many other debate threads found here, so long as you stay on the topic of the thread.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:20 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Iunno about where you're from, but where I'm st, they really don't...

To which part of this, there’s a lot there



Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The scary part is that people who don't know economics are voting for candidates equally ignorant.

Just do what I do and throw your vote away


I do fully intend to vote for Donald Trump come 2020.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:22 pm

Telconi wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:To which part of this, there’s a lot there



Internationalist Bastard wrote:Just do what I do and throw your vote away


I do fully intend to vote for Donald Trump come 2020.

C'mon Telc, join us libertarians! We get to claim moral superiority after the election.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:22 pm

Telconi wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:To which part of this, there’s a lot there



Internationalist Bastard wrote:Just do what I do and throw your vote away


I do fully intend to vote for Donald Trump come 2020.


Is it possible to be negative shocked?
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Postby Telconi » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:23 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Telconi wrote:



I do fully intend to vote for Donald Trump come 2020.

C'mon Telc, join us libertarians! We get to claim moral superiority after the election.


B-But IB said I need to throw my vote away...

Valrifell wrote:
Telconi wrote:



I do fully intend to vote for Donald Trump come 2020.


Is it possible to be negative shocked?


Judging by this feeling I get when you post asinine snark, yes.
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It's not my fault you can't understand.

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Postby Lamoni » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:25 pm

Telconi wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Heh.


I always figured Liri was the "Never spent a dollar they didn't ask daddy for" type.


*LOOMS OMINOUSLY* Let's not have this thread devolve into personal attacks, everyone.
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:11 am

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No. No it doesn't. It means that anything the Federal Government isn't empowered to do is either reserved to the people, or to the states. The Federal Government is entirely within its rights to step in and prevent the states from violating the rights of the people.

As it should when states implement strict gun control.


Yes. Don't try to project your hypocrisy onto the rest of us.
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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

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Communist Xomaniax wrote:"It let some of them be nice" doesn't cancel out that it let vastly more folk be nasty, and did so for a long time. I'm not sure changing the rules to feed into people's worst impulses is a good thing.

I wonder why nobody discriminates against the Irish, Italians, or even Asians (for the most part) nowadays.


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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:14 am

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Valrifell wrote:
Republics and democracy are not mutually exclusive. We are a democratic republic. A democracy.

Don't play semantics if you don't know the meanings of words.


Never said they were, we're still not a democracy, we're a constitutional republic. You don't know what you're talking about.

Except I do very well know what these words mean, you're the one who should educate yourself.


You should also educate yourself. The United States is a democracy. You can tell by all of the voting that you do.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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