Anno 2050 (Nation/Dead/Closed/PMT/OOC)

[Benuty]

1) In regards to the lore, I think I can offer three answers for the events you mentioned.

A) In regards to Absolutist Britain, I could see them setting up a puppet duchy in Normandy, and coastal France while Austria due to martial obligations, and alliance establishes a puppet bourbon dynasty on the remnants of France.

B) The French Revolution could very well be the German Revolution due to a history of upheavals, radicalism, and social revolutions. So you could see a German Republic (of some shape) basically causing chaos in central Europe.

C) In regards to Japan, the most common way of alternate history could simply be the survival of the shogunate.

2) In regards to the situation in what is happening in the non-U.S version of the states.

A) I can see an absolutist British colony or by the 1900s a dominion carved out in South Carolina, Georgia, and maybe bits of Florida. Of course, this could be even more assuming the colony had to deal with territorial disputes with the Commonwealth in order to prevent war. So essentially a form of the Mason-Dixon line could exist albeit radically different from in real life.

B) The majority of Canada will likely be a mixture of native American, and French settlers under French control since the commonwealth will only control the English speaking parts present in the 1650s. That said I might have expanded it a little bit, but France very well may be the administrator of the majority of Canada even if the population is much lower than in real life (due to the focus on trade rather than settlement).

C) The Pacific Northwest may be under control of an English based separatist nation who originally settled the area for trade purposes. The Oregon Territory in real life never had a truly solid administration or settlement policy due to being rather far away. So realistically a separatist nation could, in fact, thrive there.

D) The French, and Spanish most likely would have been bogged down in their own version of the French, and Indian wars since they would control the majority of the Americas. That said you will most likely see a decolonization effort either by force or peaceful diplomacy. I can see a power struggle developing between Alta California, and Mexico.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alta_California

E) The Louisiana Territory will be a toss up since its very existence was often justified by supplying the French in Haiti with the necessary supplies to keep the current order stable. Without having a reason to exist I could totally see the French auctioning the territory off between the pre-eminent powers in the Americas. Otherwise it might very well exist as a Dominion of France in the same capacity as French Canada would.

Sounds good. But I do have to tell about things regarding some states:

• If Japan is still a shogunate, then it won't be a superpower, which means that the East Asian superpower in the RP would either be China (if it was more stronger and modern than IRL), Korea (who do get westernized like Japan, as well as likely facing a similar "Boshin War" between Seohak and Donghak) or Manchuria (if the Manchus establishes their own empire instead of taking over China like IRL).
• The French and Indian War with France and Spain instead of France and the UK sounds good, but I wonder what Spain would be as of 1914. Regarding Spain, I think it would be in a personal union with Portugal similar to Denmark-Norway and Austria-Hungary.
• The German Revolution sounds good, like it would be about Germans rebelling against their respective governments (Prussia, Hesse, Württemberg, Baden, etc) and then unify their states into a single republic (Deutsche Republik) that is way more better than the First French Republic, plus wouldn't be Nazi. Yet it would still cause chaos in Central Europe and therefore lose Bavaria to Austria (later Austroslavia).
• France as a puppet of the Austroslavian Empire sounds cool. I just wonder what you mean by coastal France (if that includes the Mediterranean coast). I also wonder if France would have colonies.
• Alta California sounds good, but I wonder if that is either independent or still controlled by Spain. I still need to figure out how North America would be split between countries as of 1914.
• Canada sounds very interesting with how it would be different from it's real-life self.
• Sweden would still be a great power, except instead of Denmark-Norway.
• I have no idea about Russia, but it might be the same as IRL.
• A separatist nation in the Pacific Northwest sounds fine, but that means there could be some possibility of the CSA being also here like IRL, as well as possibly a Central American nation that is either a Napoleonistic empire or a federal republic.
• A British dominion/colony in the US around the 1910s sounds fine too. Just wonder how American nationalists (particularly Confederates) would like it.
• Custom nations would still be accepted, so we hope for a lot of opportunities for other players.

Here are some facts about my RP nation:

• The formal name is the "Austroslavian Empire" (Austroslawisches Reich) and the informal name is "Austroslavia" (Austroslawien).
• It is a constitutional monarchy under tricameralism, dual executive system, asymmetric federalism and representative democracy.
• The hereditary head of state is the Emperor (as well as Empress and Lord Regent) and the elected head of government is the Prime Minister.
• The Austroslavian Empire is split geographically into Austrian provinces (Kaiserliche Provinzen), Slavic nations (Slawische Länder), colonies (Austroslawische Kolonien) and a governing city-state (Vienna). The provinces are Upper Austria, Lower Austria, Styria, Tyrol, Carinthia, Vorarlberg, Salzburg, Liechteinstein, Bergenland and Bavaria. The nations are Czechia, Slovakia, Serbia, Slovenia, Bosnia, Croatia, Zakhivden (Ukraine), Rusyna (Rusyn), Montenegro and Lemkovyna (Poland).
• The Austroslavian Empire territorially consists of Austria, Bavaria, Liechtenstein, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Zakarpattia Oblast, South Tyrol, Trentino, Trieste Province, Serbia, Kosovo, Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast, Chernivtsi Oblast, Romanian Bukovina, Lemko Republic, Cyprus, Sicily, Lebanon, Cyrenaica, Nicobar Islands, North Borneo, Kaiser-Wilhelmsland (German New Guinea), Malabar Coast (India), Maputo Province, Malta, Madagascar, French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Rio de Oro, South Vietnam, Cambodia, French Guiana and Klein-Venedig (Little Venice).
• The Austrian provinces are federal and the Slavic nations are unitary. The Austrian provinces are split into districts while the Slavic nations are split into provinces, who are in turn split into counties. The Austrian provinces are governed by governors and deputy governors while the Slavic nations are headed by presidents and vice presidents.
• The military consists of the Imperial Austroslavian Army (Austroslawisches Reichsarmee), the Imperial Austroslavian Navy (Austroslawisches Reichsmarine), the Austroslavian Air Force (Austroslawisches Fliegerkorps), the Imperial Home Guard (Kaiserliche Heimwehr), the Slavic National Armies (Slawische Landwehren) and the Imperial Swiss Guard (Kaiserliche Schweizergarde).
• The Austroslavian Empire has the tricameral Imperial Diet (Reichstag), which was split into the upper House of Lords (Herrenhaus), the middle House of Delegates (Delegiertenhaus) and the lower House of Commoners (Bürgerhaus). The Austrian provinces has unicameral legislatures (Provinztagen) while the Slavic countries has bicameral legislatures (Sabor, Skupstina, Parlament, etc).
• The Austroslavian Empire has France as it's sole client state.

1) A shogunate would most certainly be a regional power given the last shogun had some outright napoleonic ambitions, and even dressed in French military uniforms. I suppose in this case it would be german military uniform if they decided to cause chaos throughout europe.

2) A spanish-portuguese union wouldn't be the first time it happened to become a reality.

3) In regards to coastal France I am referring to the channel side of the French coast probably as a "Grand Duchy of Normandy".

4) If Spain has lost prominence then most likely Mexico still will gain its independence, but instead of the U.S taking Alta California it will most likely split off due to cultural, and administrative divisions. There were already issues, and differences between people living in the Californian frontier versus a bureaucrat in Mexico City.

Should Spain still hold imperial prominance then an administrative division could likely have happened in order to ensure effeciency. Thus Mexico, and Alta California would be dominions by this point.

5) Most likely the Pacific Northwest would have been settled under a British trading company who ultimately due to the sheer distance may very well have declared independence with little resistance. I mean with Canada practically under majority French control they couldn't do much about it at the time.

6) The biggest hope for British influence remaining in the Americas would likely be in a "Grand Dominion" of colonies in South Carolina, Georgia, parts of florida, and territory stretching to the Louisiana. Obviously there would be a different version of the mason-dixon line since they would have the Commonwealth to deal with.

7) As for American nationalism I don't think it would be a form we would recognize at all today.

[The Felan Federation]

So would this Germany still be the land of Princes and Kings?

[Benuty]

So would this Germany still be the land of Princes and Kings?

That all depends on the outcome of the revolutionary wars, all things considered.

[Kelmet]

So would this Germany still be the land of Princes and Kings?

I don't believe so, I believe it would be the revolutionary France of our time spreading liberalism threw out Europe.

Threw a Grand Republic of Germany as I hinted to earlier.

[Benuty]

So would this Germany still be the land of Princes and Kings?

I don't believe so, I believe it would be the revolutionary France of our time spreading liberalism threw out Europe.

Threw a Grand Republic of Germany as I hinted to earlier.

One of a few things could happen.

A) Revolutionary Germany is either broke apart or at the very least muzzled due to years of warfare resulting in a bitter peace.

B) Revolutionary Germany wins the war, but ultimately their gains aren't as satisfactory leading to a rise of collectivist ideologies believing the revolution didn't go far enough. They could use an example to cause a workers revolt, and form something like the French commune to attempt to carry on the spirit of revolution.

C) A military leader seizes power, and ultimately either wins or loses the war, but what happens after the peace is truly up to the states they fought.

[Kelmet]

Neat looking map we have so far Gents.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

So i've decided I would like to take control of Russia, and would like to say some notable changes to it
1. Russia never sells Alaska to the US
2. Russia (perhaps with Austrian help if allowed) wins the Crimean War, taking over Constantinople, Romania and Bulgaria
3. Alexander II isn't assassinated and allows for more Democratic reforms
4. Russia still loses the Russo-Japanese War, but as Alexander II is still in power by 1905, Alexander III still succumbs to his illness back in 1894, this only helps to speed up the liberalisation of Russia, as Alexander seeks to further accommodate the Russian people
5. Because his father died in 1894, Nicholas II is heavily influenced by Alexander II, who unlike Alexander III, chooses to actually prepare him for the burden of monarchy, teaching him politics and etc
6. In 1905, together with several key representatives of the people, Alexander II, Nicholas, and government officials, reach a compromise concerning a reformation in government, creating a government similar to a Constitutional Monarchy (though in this the Tsar still holds some notable power). This creates the Imperial Federation of Russia, in which the rights of the common people and working class are much higher. Though there is resistance from the upper class and conservative elements

[Kelmet]

Should the German Republic have any colonies?

[Benuty]

Should the German Republic have any colonies?

I mean your biggest bet would likely be in africa or the pacific islands to be honest.

[Kelmet]

Should the German Republic have any colonies?

I mean your biggest bet would likely be in africa or the pacific islands to be honest.

Think it would be a better bet to double down and develop my home territories?

If not I'll go with south Africa, Australia and New Zealand. Depending on what year we start will depend on how much I have.

[The Felan Federation]

So i've decided I would like to take control of Russia, and would like to say some notable changes to it
1. Russia never sells Alaska to the US
2. Russia (perhaps with Austrian help if allowed) wins the Crimean War, taking over Constantinople, Romania and Bulgaria
3. Alexander II isn't assassinated and allows for more Democratic reforms
4. Russia still loses the Russo-Japanese War, but as Alexander II is still in power by 1905, Alexander III still succumbs to his illness back in 1894, this only helps to speed up the liberalisation of Russia, as Alexander seeks to further accommodate the Russian people
5. Because his father died in 1894, Nicholas II is heavily influenced by Alexander II, who unlike Alexander III, chooses to actually prepare him for the burden of monarchy, teaching him politics and etc
6. In 1905, together with several key representatives of the people, Alexander II, Nicholas, and government officials, reach a compromise concerning a reformation in government, creating a government similar to a Constitutional Monarchy (though in this the Tsar still holds some notable power). This creates the Imperial Federation of Russia, in which the rights of the common people and working class are much higher. Though there is resistance from the upper class and conservative elements

Hmm. Aren't you a bit too OP? As you seem to be both have a large landmass, liberal reforms in play and likely a better industry and economy going too. I am not saying you can't play it like that - but perhaps establish some drawbacks as well? Since in our OTL most efforts of Reformation were mismanaged or failed due to either an incompetent Czar or resistance from the Nobility.

Also, since you will be controlling a lot of landmass. Wouldn't it make sense to have your Empire divided into numerous autonomous provinces? Like Austria-Hungary had done? Perhaps some Autonomous Republic for the Cossacks, one for the Bulgarians, Romanians and Alaskans? Since your country is called the Imperial Federation of Russia. It might also make sense, seeing as your land is HUGE and trying to manage it all around the early 20th Century might be a nightmare...

[Kelmet]

So i've decided I would like to take control of Russia, and would like to say some notable changes to it
1. Russia never sells Alaska to the US
2. Russia (perhaps with Austrian help if allowed) wins the Crimean War, taking over Constantinople, Romania and Bulgaria
3. Alexander II isn't assassinated and allows for more Democratic reforms
4. Russia still loses the Russo-Japanese War, but as Alexander II is still in power by 1905, Alexander III still succumbs to his illness back in 1894, this only helps to speed up the liberalisation of Russia, as Alexander seeks to further accommodate the Russian people
5. Because his father died in 1894, Nicholas II is heavily influenced by Alexander II, who unlike Alexander III, chooses to actually prepare him for the burden of monarchy, teaching him politics and etc
6. In 1905, together with several key representatives of the people, Alexander II, Nicholas, and government officials, reach a compromise concerning a reformation in government, creating a government similar to a Constitutional Monarchy (though in this the Tsar still holds some notable power). This creates the Imperial Federation of Russia, in which the rights of the common people and working class are much higher. Though there is resistance from the upper class and conservative elements

Hmm. Aren't you a bit too OP? As you seem to be both have a large landmass, liberal reforms in play and likely a better industry and economy going too. I am not saying you can't play it like that - but perhaps establish some drawbacks as well? Since in our OTL most efforts of Reformation were mismanaged or failed due to either an incompetent Czar or resistance from the Nobility.

Also, since you will be controlling a lot of landmass. Wouldn't it make sense to have your Empire divided into numerous autonomous provinces? Like Austria-Hungary had done? Perhaps some Autonomous Republic for the Cossacks, one for the Bulgarians, Romanians and Alaskans? Since your country is called the Imperial Federation of Russia. It might also make sense, seeing as your land is HUGE and trying to manage it all around the early 20th Century might be a nightmare...

Well Russia's biggest disadvantage, much like AustriaSlavas will be is it is a very diverse multi-ethnic empire, struggling to keep its many minorities loyal regardless how many right or self government they get bestowed.

Map as of now with reserved/talked about nations - https://i.imgur.com/nVuZITO.png

[The Felan Federation]

So when was the Point of Divergence for our world?

Wanna get a specific timeline, so I know how far I can go to pick out my nation?

[Benuty]

So when was the Point of Divergence for our world?

Wanna get a specific timeline, so I know how far I can go to pick out my nation?

For the sake of having any attachment to something of our world we should probably keep it to the 1500s. A major divergence being the fact that North America is not united under a country which espouses manifest destiny. What country did you have in mind?

[Benuty]

Hmm. Aren't you a bit too OP? As you seem to be both have a large landmass, liberal reforms in play and likely a better industry and economy going too. I am not saying you can't play it like that - but perhaps establish some drawbacks as well? Since in our OTL most efforts of Reformation were mismanaged or failed due to either an incompetent Czar or resistance from the Nobility.

Also, since you will be controlling a lot of landmass. Wouldn't it make sense to have your Empire divided into numerous autonomous provinces? Like Austria-Hungary had done? Perhaps some Autonomous Republic for the Cossacks, one for the Bulgarians, Romanians and Alaskans? Since your country is called the Imperial Federation of Russia. It might also make sense, seeing as your land is HUGE and trying to manage it all around the early 20th Century might be a nightmare...

Well Russia's biggest disadvantage, much like AustriaSlavas will be is it is a very diverse multi-ethnic empire, struggling to keep its many minorities loyal regardless how many right or self government they get bestowed.

Map as of now with reserved/talked about nations - https://i.imgur.com/nVuZITO.png

Its not just diversity, but also the fact the empire is humongous which brings its own problems especially in regards to land wars on the other side of said empire.

[Kelmet]

Well Russia's biggest disadvantage, much like AustriaSlavas will be is it is a very diverse multi-ethnic empire, struggling to keep its many minorities loyal regardless how many right or self government they get bestowed.

Map as of now with reserved/talked about nations - https://i.imgur.com/nVuZITO.png

Its not just diversity, but also the fact the empire is humongous which brings its own problems especially in regards to land wars on the other side of said empire.

Preach. Think it would be to much for the German Republic to have a colony in Argentina as well?

[Benuty]

Its not just diversity, but also the fact the empire is humongous which brings its own problems especially in regards to land wars on the other side of said empire.

Preach. Think it would be to much for the German Republic to have a colony in Argentina as well?

I mean sure it wouldn't be too improbable given both Germany (not just after the Reich), and Italy both seem to have flooded Argentina for some reason.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Might actually do a new Byzantine or Roman empire-esque type thing, would be interesting

[Benuty]

Might actually do a new Byzantine or Roman empire-esque type thing, would be interesting

Potentially if the point of divergence is the 1500s a Russian expedition into the Turkish controlled area of Greece restores Eastern Rome, at least initially as a puppet state. It kind of makes sense given Ivan the Terrible married a princess of the last emperor, and claimed the mantle of "third rome". I suppose in honor of that legacy they could restore Eastern Rome as a protectorate only for it to drift over a variety of issues including the desire for independence.

[Benuty]

Guess I better post a 'proto-app' of my nation to add more to the lore, and start laying some definitive borders for the americas.

[Arvenia]

So i've decided I would like to take control of Russia, and would like to say some notable changes to it
1. Russia never sells Alaska to the US
2. Russia (perhaps with Austrian help if allowed) wins the Crimean War, taking over Constantinople, Romania and Bulgaria
3. Alexander II isn't assassinated and allows for more Democratic reforms
4. Russia still loses the Russo-Japanese War, but as Alexander II is still in power by 1905, Alexander III still succumbs to his illness back in 1894, this only helps to speed up the liberalisation of Russia, as Alexander seeks to further accommodate the Russian people
5. Because his father died in 1894, Nicholas II is heavily influenced by Alexander II, who unlike Alexander III, chooses to actually prepare him for the burden of monarchy, teaching him politics and etc
6. In 1905, together with several key representatives of the people, Alexander II, Nicholas, and government officials, reach a compromise concerning a reformation in government, creating a government similar to a Constitutional Monarchy (though in this the Tsar still holds some notable power). This creates the Imperial Federation of Russia, in which the rights of the common people and working class are much higher. Though there is resistance from the upper class and conservative elements

Looks good (especially with liberalization and Alaska), but with two simple issues:
1. Austria is the Austroslavian Empire at that time. The conquest of Constantinople, Romania and Bulgaria means that we would have a few playable nations in the RP. We need more space for players.
2. I think the Russo-Japanese War (given that Japan is still a feudal military dictatorship) would pit Russia against a different East Asian country like China, Korea or Manchuria.

[Arvenia]

Isn't Kelmet getting Germany?

I might go for a more militaristic and authoritarian US that has been greatly influenced by it's large German immigrant population if I can't get Germany or Russia

I would like to.

The German Revolution sounds good, like it would be about Germans rebelling against their respective governments (Prussia, Hesse, Württemberg, Baden, etc) and then unify their states into a single republic (Deutsche Republik) that is way more better than the First French Republic, plus wouldn't be Nazi. Yet it would still cause chaos in Central Europe and therefore lose Bavaria to Austria (later Austroslavia).

Molded after what happened in RL after the Napoleonic wars when the numerous french/Austrian client states in Germany (along with Prussia) experienced a wave of Pan-Germanism.

Now here's a question, would this Grand Republic of Germany have colonies? or put all its effort into its home territories in Europe and try to spread the revolution?

EDIT: Off the cuff territories would probably be the North German Confederation + Atlace Lorraine ( Elsaß-Lothringen) + Luxembourg + the southern German states that Austriaslava hasn't taken.

The German Republic, similar to the Third French Republic, would have colonies, yes. The German African colonies, but a few in the Pacific because of the Austroslavian Empire.

BTW: I have Bavaria.

About the US, I think there is no US here, just the Commonwealth of New England (formerly a Parliamentarian government-in-exile), a British client state, California, a French-dominated Canada, a Pacific Northwestern country, Texas (possibly), a Mexican Empire (possibly) and some Caribbean states. Alaska is Russian and Hawaii is likely East Asian (Korean, Chinese or Manchu).

[Arvenia]

Well Russia's biggest disadvantage, much like AustriaSlavas will be is it is a very diverse multi-ethnic empire, struggling to keep its many minorities loyal regardless how many right or self government they get bestowed.

Map as of now with reserved/talked about nations - https://i.imgur.com/nVuZITO.png

Its not just diversity, but also the fact the empire is humongous which brings its own problems especially in regards to land wars on the other side of said empire.

What the Austroslavian colony of Cyrenaica actually looks like (grey on the map)

[Kelmet]

Its not just diversity, but also the fact the empire is humongous which brings its own problems especially in regards to land wars on the other side of said empire.

What the Austroslavian colony of Cyrenaica actually looks like (grey on the map)

Ill get that fixed real quick, just giving Cyrenaica a google gives me that, not all of Libya.

I know about Bavaria, interesting borders in Europe that's for sure.

(Ill have a map update today, hopefully with a few more nations on it.)

[Arvenia]

I might do the WW1 RP today. But I'm still less active until either the 30th of November or the 1st of December.