American Division

[Infected Mushroom]

American division shall worsen. At this point it’s inevitable.

When the war happens (and it will because the American government won’t try dictatorship or a gun ban)...

I would like to fight for the south

[Thermodolia]

i too wish for civil war 2.0.

You realize that would mean that the U.S. would become weak and foreign powers would have a huge opportunity.

Sarcasm

You

[Thermodolia]

Civil war may not be the conclusion and it's not anything we should want. We should never wish death on any human.

What the hell do you think the conclusion will be, then? Everybody just holds hands out of the blue and sing Kumbaya and all political divisions just vapourize into thin air?

The train is very much headed towards civil unrest at best, civil war at worst.

There is a third option. The democrats take power and pull a great purge. No opposition no political divide

[Thermodolia]

If it happens, Canada is going to eat a big bowl of crap themselves.

Move pop to north western territories, scorched earth tactics, build military, counter attack when the winter is too much for the army to handle.

50 States are now 50 Provinces.

Worked for Russia twice, why not us?

Because you aren’t Russia

[Western Vale Confederacy]

What the hell do you think the conclusion will be, then? Everybody just holds hands out of the blue and sing Kumbaya and all political divisions just vapourize into thin air?

The train is very much headed towards civil unrest at best, civil war at worst.

There is a third option. The democrats take power and pull a great purge. No opposition no political divide

Unlikely, considering that Democrats call Trump literally Hitler, yet beg him to take their guns.

Move pop to north western territories, scorched earth tactics, build military, counter attack when the winter is too much for the army to handle.

50 States are now 50 Provinces.

Worked for Russia twice, why not us?

Because you aren’t Russia

We're actually better than Russia!

You shall freeze in Nunavut before you reach our hidden Inuit utopias!

[Thermodolia]

There is a third option. The democrats take power and pull a great purge. No opposition no political divide

Unlikely, considering that Democrats call Trump literally Hitler, yet beg him to take their guns.

Because you aren’t Russia

We're actually better than Russia!

You shall freeze in Nunavut before you reach our hidden Inuit utopias!

*sits in Alberta lobbing tomahawks into Nunavut*

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Unlikely, considering that Democrats call Trump literally Hitler, yet beg him to take their guns.



We're actually better than Russia!

You shall freeze in Nunavut before you reach our hidden Inuit utopias!

*sits in Alberta lobbing tomahawks into Nunavut*

You'd be lobbing Tomahawks at literal hundreds of thousands of square kilometers of tundra, frozen snowy wastelands and glaciers, with the exception being the decently-sized town of Iqaluit.

[Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio]

I feel like any pointing fingers will worsen (at least initially) the divide. I hope there is not a civil war again, but at least then I could move without as much guilt and estrangement.

[Thermodolia]

*sits in Alberta lobbing tomahawks into Nunavut*

You'd be lobbing Tomahawks at literal hundreds of thousands of square kilometers of tundra, frozen snowy wastelands and glaciers, with the exception being the decently-sized town of Iqaluit.

Fine. *nukes it instead*

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I feel like any pointing fingers will worsen (at least initially) the divide. I hope there is not a civil war again, but at least then I could move without as much guilt and estrangement.

I genuinely do not wish for a civil war to spark out of concern for my beloved mother (who has been mentally affected by a civil war already, and another right on her doorstep would be terrifying), but the powder keg is only growing larger and larger by the day.

If one doesn't light it, it'll only keep growing larger.

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

A switch to alternative voting, which would end gerrymandering, followed by campaign finance reform would be a good way to calm people down. After that it will take time. Maybe a full generation or three. Giving people a say in their government once again will eventually create a multiparty system which will inevitably weaken the far left and far right making room for smaller but numerous moderate parties.

My two cents at least.

[Cosmopolitan borovan]

A switch to alternative voting, which would end gerrymandering, followed by campaign finance reform would be a good way to calm people down. After that it will take time. Maybe a full generation or three. Giving people a say in their government once again will eventually create a multiparty system which will inevitably weaken the far left and far right making room for smaller but numerous moderate parties.

My two cents at least.

California has some form of this but it is still radicalized. Republicans candidate act like idiots and presume that the demographics of moderate and liberal voters do not exist and Democrats are a mile away from the Republicans but are being voted for anyway. The reason why is that politics is dowminated by people who happen to have a personal stake in it and those who are interested in the subject, so those will be fiercely polarised between each. This excludes out independent voters who are made up of apathetic, non voters which are crucial to dimming down the polarized sides.

[Kash Island]

The reasonable wing of the Republican Party is indeed innocent. But the alt-right and the hard-core Trump supporters are just as guilty as the left.

The American left isn't guilty, ignorant Republicans who voted for Trump are.

you have many high ranking leaders of the Democrat party, well known celebrities and others calling for violence/harassment

you had during the 2016 election, mobs of people harassing/attacking Trump gatherings/conventions

you had an legit assassination attempt on Republicans

these things still happen, I can't even put a Trump sticker on my car without a very real fear of my vehicle being destroyed/vandalized.

Does the right wing have nutbags? sure and they sometimes hurt and even kill people.

but we don't have the "general" mass madness that is coming from the left.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

I can't even put a Trump sticker on my car without a very real fear of my vehicle being destroyed/vandalized.

Cesar Sayoc's van didn't look destroyed or vandalised. He had more than a few Trump stickers.

[Page]

There is no civil war coming, it's more like a low intensity far-right insurgency. I expect far-right attacks to continue to happen frequently for some time.

[Geneviev]

The American left isn't guilty, ignorant Republicans who voted for Trump are.

you have many high ranking leaders of the Democrat party, well known celebrities and others calling for violence/harassment

you had during the 2016 election, mobs of people harassing/attacking Trump gatherings/conventions

you had an legit assassination attempt on Republicans

these things still happen, I can't even put a Trump sticker on my car without a very real fear of my vehicle being destroyed/vandalized.

Does the right wing have nutbags? sure and they sometimes hurt and even kill people.

but we don't have the "general" mass madness that is coming from the left.

The mistake is that you're mostly blaming one group for this which makes everything worse. Both sides are causing the problem.

[Darussalam]

It's time for the break-up, lads.

[Blackledge]

No. It is too deep and embraced by Trump. Just let it reach it's full conclusion.

It preceded Trump and was embraced by elements of the left and right well before he came in. Arguably he only rose to president because of the existing political climate. He's a symptom, not a cause.

[Trajkov]

Honestly I'd support dividing the country at this point if there were a clear a practical means to do so. Unfortunately I don't think there would be a good way to break it up, even at the county level, without creating something that makes the borders of India look orderly and well placed. The problem is the division isn't regional so much as it is rural vs urban, and some suburbs vs other suburbs, or suburbs that are just all mixed together.


For the same reason if there were a violent conflict it would look more like the conflicts in northern Ireland or Syria than the last civil war. It would be particularly nasty, and I think it's something we should all want to avoid.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Shit be fucked.

As a non-centrist, I feel mildly attacked by this post.

Non-centrists get offended by anything and everything. Fact.

[Blackledge]

There is no civil war coming, it's more like a low intensity far-right insurgency. I expect far-right attacks to continue to happen frequently for some time.

Do you think far-left attacks (Scalise shootings, ricin mailing, antifa domestic terrorism) will continue too?

[The Huskar Social Union]

It's time for the break-up, lads.

bordergore NA edition

[Trajkov]

It's time for the break-up, lads.

bordergore NA edition

A more optimal division would have ever worse borders, like many of the counties in the hypothetical deep south nation on that map are majority Black and Democratic. A true separation would have all kinds of enclaves and exclaves all over the country. It would be a mess.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

The American left isn't guilty, ignorant Republicans who voted for Trump are.

you have many high ranking leaders of the Democrat party, well known celebrities and others calling for violence/harassment

you had during the 2016 election, mobs of people harassing/attacking Trump gatherings/conventions

you had an legit assassination attempt on Republicans

these things still happen, I can't even put a Trump sticker on my car without a very real fear of my vehicle being destroyed/vandalized.

Does the right wing have nutbags? sure and they sometimes hurt and even kill people.

but we don't have the "general" mass madness that is coming from the left.

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[Northeast American Federation]

This thread goes right on the list of threads that supports my theory that the division in America is utterly insurmountable, and is looking increasingly unlikely to be resolved peacefully. There is almost zero common ground left that unites Americans. The left has decided that the right is evil and inhuman(or that they're all Nazis), and the right is getting to feel the same way about the left.

Buckle up, ladies and gentlemen. We're in for a wild ride for the foreseeable future.