Have the Brett Kavanaugh hearings backfired on the left?

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They need to go away

Yes. We need to clear them out and put right-wing republicans in office.

I agree with you. I'd rather right-wing Dems lose their seats to Republicans and worry about winning those seats back later. Better to temporarily be in the minority and know where everyone stands.

Reminds me how lots of people thought Kavanaugh's confirmation wouldn't get through. "We flipped one Republican, we just have to get one more." LOL NOPE, cause here comes Joe Manchin to side with Trump for the 7 trillionth time. I saw it coming a mile away. I knew what Manchin was going to do and I knew there was no chance of flipping 3 Republicans either. Actually, the Dems probably had a better chance of flipping 3 Republicans than getting Manchin to stay loyal.

[Mystic Warriors]

They need to go away

Yes. We need to clear them out and put right-wing republicans in office.

No, right wing parties in general need to be deplatformed.

[Mystic Warriors]

Democrats didn't think the allegations were false, that's why they backed Ford.

Democrats will do anything that benefits the Democrats. That's the long and short of it. Ford could have claimed she was abducted by lizard people and that Kavanaugh himself was a lizard person, and the Democrats would have said "she's telling the truth". And their supporters would have believed it, and stood out the front of Congress with #BelieveWomen and their "pussy hats" and we'd all end up with the same outcome.

Trump supporters do that.

[Mystic Warriors]

He was trying to save blue doggers' seats.

And look how well that worked out. The blue dogs were annihilated in 2010, proving a lesson that the Democratic Party still hasn't learned 8 years later, that when given a choice between Republican and Republican Lite, voters will always go Republican.

The Democrats need to go full progressive. A real left wing party and stand together.

[Telconi]

Yes. We need to clear them out and put right-wing republicans in office.

No, right wing parties in general need to be deplatformed.

Goebbels would be proud...

[Mattopilos II]

And look how well that worked out. The blue dogs were annihilated in 2010, proving a lesson that the Democratic Party still hasn't learned 8 years later, that when given a choice between Republican and Republican Lite, voters will always go Republican.

The Democrats need to go full progressive. A real left wing party and stand together.

How utopian and pathetically inane to think that would fix the issues in society.

[Valrifell]

Democrats will do anything that benefits the Democrats. That's the long and short of it. Ford could have claimed she was abducted by lizard people and that Kavanaugh himself was a lizard person, and the Democrats would have said "she's telling the truth". And their supporters would have believed it, and stood out the front of Congress with #BelieveWomen and their "pussy hats" and we'd all end up with the same outcome.

Trump supporters do that.

As if he cares.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Yes. We need to clear them out and put right-wing republicans in office.

No, right wing parties in general need to be deplatformed.

Such heinous stances is why I can no longer trust the left anymore.

They have some good ideas, but they have lost all connections to reality.

[Chestaan]

And look how well that worked out. The blue dogs were annihilated in 2010, proving a lesson that the Democratic Party still hasn't learned 8 years later, that when given a choice between Republican and Republican Lite, voters will always go Republican.

The Democrats need to go full progressive. A real left wing party and stand together.

The chances of that happening is a strong zero. The Democrats are 100% committed to capitalism and the status quo.

[Mattopilos II]

No, right wing parties in general need to be deplatformed.

Such heinous stances is why I can no longer trust the left anymore.

They have some good ideas, but they have lost all connections to reality.

Imagine thinking this is exclusively a “left” position and that deplatforming dipshits is bad. I will strike one up on my tally of “people who unironically use ‘the left’” for you though.

[Ostroeuropa]

I think it's backfired on neoliberal democrats due to their reliance on spectacle and identity politics, but won't impact the sanders style candidates. So a win all round really. I'm happy to trade our neoliberal democrats for trump style republicans, in the absence of sanders style democrats, because the Neoliberal wing of the party being routed from both ends of the spectrum is the best thing for a rapid takeover of the party by sanders style dems that will be necessary to actual make substantive change in the country in 2020.

Yes. We need to clear them out and put right-wing republicans in office.

I agree with you. I'd rather right-wing Dems lose their seats to Republicans and worry about winning those seats back later. Better to temporarily be in the minority and know where everyone stands.

Reminds me how lots of people thought Kavanaugh's confirmation wouldn't get through. "We flipped one Republican, we just have to get one more." LOL NOPE, cause here comes Joe Manchin to side with Trump for the 7 trillionth time. I saw it coming a mile away. I knew what Manchin was going to do and I knew there was no chance of flipping 3 Republicans either. Actually, the Dems probably had a better chance of flipping 3 Republicans than getting Manchin to stay loyal.

Yeah, this.
#NeverManchin

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Such heinous stances is why I can no longer trust the left anymore.

They have some good ideas, but they have lost all connections to reality.

Imagine thinking this is exclusively a “left” position and that deplatforming dipshits is bad. I will strike one up on my tally of “people who unironically use ‘the left’” for you though.

The facade of the many are changed by the actions of the few.

Your extremists, regardless of how few they are, have effectively ruined your image.

And I bet you think I'm a conservative, but yikes, I'm not!

[Mystic Warriors]

No, right wing parties in general need to be deplatformed.

Such heinous stances is why I can no longer trust the left anymore.

They have some good ideas, but they have lost all connections to reality.

Heinous? Good lord. The right does it then cool, the left and its heinous.

[Mystic Warriors]

Imagine thinking this is exclusively a “left” position and that deplatforming dipshits is bad. I will strike one up on my tally of “people who unironically use ‘the left’” for you though.

The facade of the many are changed by the actions of the few.

Your extremists, regardless of how few they are, have effectively ruined your image.

And I bet you think I'm a conservative, but yikes, I'm not!

You sound like a conservative

[Mystic Warriors]

The Democrats need to go full progressive. A real left wing party and stand together.

The chances of that happening is a strong zero. The Democrats are 100% committed to capitalism and the status quo.

Progressive doesn't equal anti capitalism.

[Chestaan]

The chances of that happening is a strong zero. The Democrats are 100% committed to capitalism and the status quo.

Progressive doesn't equal anti capitalism.

Yeah I'm only too aware of that unfortunately. You did say "real left wing" though, so I assumed you didn't mean centre-left.

[Mystic Warriors]

Progressive doesn't equal anti capitalism.

Yeah I'm only too aware of that unfortunately. You did say "real left wing" though, so I assumed you didn't mean centre-left.

By that I mean 100%, not fractured between competing ideologies.

[Telconi]

Such heinous stances is why I can no longer trust the left anymore.

They have some good ideas, but they have lost all connections to reality.

Heinous? Good lord. The right does it then cool, the left and its heinous.

The right has "deplatformed" all left wing parties?

[Mystic Warriors]

Heinous? Good lord. The right does it then cool, the left and its heinous.

The right has "deplatformed" all left wing parties?

You support it and try. Unless you deny the right lies about and deamonizes the left. Remember that guy in Minnesota running for attorney general? Yeah, he wants to fire all Democrats.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

The facade of the many are changed by the actions of the few.

Your extremists, regardless of how few they are, have effectively ruined your image.

And I bet you think I'm a conservative, but yikes, I'm not!

You sound like a conservative

Espousing certain conservative views does not make me a full-blown conservative because I also disagree on many of their other views.

But then again, nowadays, it's either "left" or "right", never center or Third Way.

[Chestaan]

Yeah I'm only too aware of that unfortunately. You did say "real left wing" though, so I assumed you didn't mean centre-left.

By that I mean 100%, not fractured between competing ideologies.

But then what would be the dominant ideology? Whatever it is that Clinton espouses, or more like Sanders? Either way would require some sort of purge of the other side.

[Chestaan]

You sound like a conservative

Espousing certain conservative views does not make me a full-blown conservative because I also disagree on many of their other views.

But then again, nowadays, it's either "left" or "right", never center or Third Way.

I think realistically the idea of left vs right is outdated. The political compass is an improvement, but rather than having only two axes a realistic political compass would have hundreds.

[Mystic Warriors]

By that I mean 100%, not fractured between competing ideologies.

But then what would be the dominant ideology? Whatever it is that Clinton espouses, or more like Sanders? Either way would require some sort of purge of the other side.

How about neither?

[Mystic Warriors]

You sound like a conservative

Espousing certain conservative views does not make me a full-blown conservative because I also disagree on many of their other views.

But then again, nowadays, it's either "left" or "right", never center or Third Way.

Trump killed that idea. No room for 8t right now.

[Telconi]

The right has "deplatformed" all left wing parties?

You support it and try. Unless you deny the right lies about and deamonizes the left. Remember that guy in Minnesota running for attorney general? Yeah, he wants to fire all Democrats.

I do?