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by Oil exporting People » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:11 pm
by Herskerstad » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:18 pm
Oil exporting People wrote:So apparently they cut him up while he was still alive? Didn't know SAW was that popular in the Arab world.
by Proletarian Republic of Americanada » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:21 pm
by The Batorys » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:38 pm
Painisia wrote:If there is evidence of Saudi involvement in this case, then Trump has to impose sanctions. It is not ideal for a conservative president loved by many Christians to support Saudi Arabia, a tyrannical islamic theocracy. I wonder what will be the Saudi`s response? But this is going to be destructive to the world market and economy. Another oil embargo?
by The Batorys » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:50 pm
Jazz Commies and Sexy Astrophysicists wrote:I am interested to see what will ultimately become of Saudi Arabia, and whether to U.S. will continue to stand by it as it continues to dismantle its soft power ties across the world. Without the U.S. behind it, I doubt they will be able to maintain the hold on the region they have now.
by The Batorys » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:52 pm
Kowani wrote:
When you have the facts, pound the facts. When you have the law, pound the law. And if you have neither, pound the table.
by Bombadil » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:49 pm
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:00 am
by Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:27 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Trump has gone into his defensive arms crossed body language on this, like a little kid refusing to eat his broccoli. The trouble is if Turkey does have the evidence they claim he is going to look a right arse.
That said it is getting to the point where Turkey needs to make the evidence public, and I think it would be better to release it to the world not just give it to the US.
Al Jazeera are alleging that the operation was led by the bodyguard of MBS. His secretary is alleged to have booked the flights and multiple phone calls were made that connect him directly to the suspected murder.
I really don't think the US keeping a close relationship with someone who is essentially the Saudi version of Uday Hussein is a good idea. With Yemen likely to become the largest humanitarian disaster in history you will take a lot of reputational damage.
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:36 am
by Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:42 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:26 am
Ethel mermania wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Like you need John Wayne Gacy to counter Ted Bundy.
You got someone else in mind in the middle east?
But I am more interested the part of my post you cut out.
The Saudis are sophisticated investors, and have billions of dollars invested in high tech American industries. Apple, uber. Microsoft, Tesla, amazon, etc. I am not seeing the rush to divest these investments.
by Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:32 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:You got someone else in mind in the middle east?
But I am more interested the part of my post you cut out.
The Saudis are sophisticated investors, and have billions of dollars invested in high tech American industries. Apple, uber. Microsoft, Tesla, amazon, etc. I am not seeing the rush to divest these investments.
Perhaps if the government showed some leadership they might.
by Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:32 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:You got someone else in mind in the middle east?
But I am more interested the part of my post you cut out.
The Saudis are sophisticated investors, and have billions of dollars invested in high tech American industries. Apple, uber. Microsoft, Tesla, amazon, etc. I am not seeing the rush to divest these investments.
Perhaps if the government showed some leadership they might.
by Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:34 am
Ethel mermania wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Perhaps if the government showed some leadership they might.
Yeah right, best you are going to get is a strongly worded OP-ed in the ny times.
As to trump, What do you expect then to do? Start relying on Iran or Syria, as a force for peace?
All the state actors in that region suck.
by Ifreann » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:42 am
Ethel mermania wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Perhaps if the government showed some leadership they might.
Yeah right, best you are going to get is a strongly worded OP-ed in the ny times.
As to trump, What do you expect then to do? Start relying on Iran or Syria, as a force for peace?
All the state actors in that region suck.
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:46 am
Ethel mermania wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Perhaps if the government showed some leadership they might.
Yeah right, best you are going to get is a strongly worded OP-ed in the ny times.
As to trump, What do you expect then to do? Start relying on Iran or Syria, as a force for peace?
All the state actors in that region suck.
by Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:46 am
Ifreann wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:
Yeah right, best you are going to get is a strongly worded OP-ed in the ny times.
As to trump, What do you expect then to do? Start relying on Iran or Syria, as a force for peace?
All the state actors in that region suck.
Should we read from this that you think Saudi Arabia is a force for peace in the region?
by Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:56 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:
Yeah right, best you are going to get is a strongly worded OP-ed in the ny times.
As to trump, What do you expect then to do? Start relying on Iran or Syria, as a force for peace?
All the state actors in that region suck.
Largely as a result of sucky US foreign policy.
by Kubrath » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:57 am
Ethel mermania wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Like you need John Wayne Gacy to counter Ted Bundy.
You got someone else in mind in the middle east?
But I am more interested the part of my post you cut out.
The Saudis are sophisticated investors, and have billions of dollars invested in high tech American industries. Apple, uber. Microsoft, Tesla, amazon, etc. I am not seeing the rush to divest these investments.
If your commanders are surprised every time they lose a squad, they probably die several minutes into a campaign due to being critically over-gasped.
North Valinka: What kind of an oxymoron is "Libertarian Police State"?
Petroviya: It arrests law makers.
Phocidaea wrote:Maybe democracy isn't the way?
Of course democracy is the way, dammit! There is no such thing as too much democracy!
Fuckin' dictatorships.
Sociobiology wrote:This is the problem with trying to understand the universe with a brain evolved to find ripe fruit and scream defiance at the ape in the next tree.
by Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:00 am
Kubrath wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:You got someone else in mind in the middle east?
But I am more interested the part of my post you cut out.
The Saudis are sophisticated investors, and have billions of dollars invested in high tech American industries. Apple, uber. Microsoft, Tesla, amazon, etc. I am not seeing the rush to divest these investments.
A number of bigshot American investors withdrew from the Future Investment Initiative over this.
by Kubrath » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:05 am
If your commanders are surprised every time they lose a squad, they probably die several minutes into a campaign due to being critically over-gasped.
North Valinka: What kind of an oxymoron is "Libertarian Police State"?
Petroviya: It arrests law makers.
Phocidaea wrote:Maybe democracy isn't the way?
Of course democracy is the way, dammit! There is no such thing as too much democracy!
Fuckin' dictatorships.
Sociobiology wrote:This is the problem with trying to understand the universe with a brain evolved to find ripe fruit and scream defiance at the ape in the next tree.
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