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Which Form of Leftism is The Best?

Left-Libertarianism
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Democratic Communist Federation
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:42 pm

Thermodolia wrote:So you support Israel then?


I support the existence of new collective, called the Holy Land (⫯Ar°ḍu ʾal•Muqaddasaẗ, Arabic, أَرْضُ المُقَدَّسَة; ʾẸrẹṣ hạ•Qōḏẹš, Hebrew, אֶרֶץ הַקֹּדֶשׁ; or Hāʾārẹṣ hạ•Qəḏōšāh, Hebrew, הָאָרֶץ הַקְּדוֹשָׁה) which would be open to everyone, including Palestinians and Jews.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:44 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:What are they robbing from the proletariat?


You want Marx 101 (wage labor, etc.)?

Better yet, I would like to meet this "proletariat" fellow. He (or her) must be very angry about these rich people stealing his/her stuff. The proletariat is not an individual nor a voluntary group, they can't own squat.


If the revolution comes, we will all meet them.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:47 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:What are they robbing from the proletariat?


You want Marx 101 (wage labor, etc.)?

Better yet, I would like to meet this "proletariat" fellow. He (or her) must be very angry about these rich people stealing his/her stuff. The proletariat is not an individual nor a voluntary group, they can't own squat.


If the revolution comes, we will all meet them.

The counterrevolution will come in swinging afterwards.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:48 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
You want Marx 101 (wage labor, etc.)?



If the revolution comes, we will all meet them.

The counterrevolution will come in swinging afterwards.


The White Army still won't win. :^3
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:51 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The counterrevolution will come in swinging afterwards.


The White Army still won't win. :^3

That's why we have the CIA.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:53 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The counterrevolution will come in swinging afterwards.


The White Army still won't win. :^3

>Socialist college kid bourgeoisie Red Army
vs
>Capitalist 2A-junkie proletariat White Army

What a Revolution.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:54 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
The White Army still won't win. :^3

>Socialist college kid bourgeoisie Red Army
vs
>Capitalist 2A-junkie proletariat White Army

What a Revolution.

These are strange times.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:59 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
The White Army still won't win. :^3

>Socialist college kid bourgeoisie Red Army
vs
>Capitalist 2A-junkie proletariat White Army

What a Revolution.


>TFW college includes ROTC programs
>TFW ROTC includes learning military strategy
>TFW the Reds have access to this

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:02 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:>Socialist college kid bourgeoisie Red Army
vs
>Capitalist 2A-junkie proletariat White Army

What a Revolution.


>TFW college includes ROTC programs
>TFW ROTC includes learning military strategy
>TFW the Reds have access to this

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You think people trying to join America's Armed Forces would be socialists?

>Inb4 that one guy who wrote "Communism will win" in his hat
That's the exception, not the rule.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:05 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>TFW college includes ROTC programs
>TFW ROTC includes learning military strategy
>TFW the Reds have access to this

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You think people trying to join America's Armed Forces would be socialists?

>Inb4 that one guy who wrote "Communism will win" in his hat
That's the exception, not the rule.


People radicalize even in the military.

Also, you only have to join the military if you put more than two years into the ROTC program, as I've learned from multiple military personnel in my high school days. :^)
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:06 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:You want Marx 101 (wage labor, etc.)?

If you choose to work for someone, you are allowing consenting for them to profit off of you. That aint theft. You want logic 101?
If the revolution comes, we will all meet them.

There is no "them." The proletariat will never be a unified group. They're too smart for that.
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Postby Korouse » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:51 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
The subjugation was a genocide, however. To pretend otherwise is ignorant of the actual history at hand in the colonial and post-colonial eras of the Americas.

Putting native children into European schools wasn't genocide. Assimilating them into an advanced society wasn't genocide.
I won't deny acts of brutality. However, that doesn't comprise the entirety of subjagation.
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It was a rhetorical statement.

Fuck off. I live near an Indian reservation. There's barely any fucking clean water there, not to mention all the homelessness and suicide going on. Take your 1/128th Iroquois fat white ass over to one sometime.
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Postby Korouse » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:52 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>TFW college includes ROTC programs
>TFW ROTC includes learning military strategy
>TFW the Reds have access to this

top kek

You think people trying to join America's Armed Forces would be socialists?

>Inb4 that one guy who wrote "Communism will win" in his hat
That's the exception, not the rule.

There's a few. It's not like you can't just get technical/training information online anyway. I got a book on military logistics for free.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:58 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:The counterrevolution will come in swinging afterwards.


Just as I cannot predict whether there will be a revolution, you cannot predict whether a counterrevolution will follow.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:00 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:If you choose to work for someone, you are allowing consenting for them to profit off of you. That aint theft. You want logic 101?


It is not a choice if that is your only viable option.

There is no "them." The proletariat will never be a unified group. They're too smart for that.


I hope you are wrong.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:22 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:>Socialist college kid bourgeoisie Red Army
vs
>Capitalist 2A-junkie proletariat White Army

What a Revolution.


>TFW college includes ROTC programs
>TFW ROTC includes learning military strategy
>TFW the Reds have access to this

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I definitely never met any communists in the military. There’s was a few odd socialists. I don’t remember any socialist officers though
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:23 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>TFW college includes ROTC programs
>TFW ROTC includes learning military strategy
>TFW the Reds have access to this

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You think people trying to join America's Armed Forces would be socialists?

>Inb4 that one guy who wrote "Communism will win" in his hat
That's the exception, not the rule.

That guy got a DD too
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Postby Uiiop » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:41 am

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Just because the Natives didn't get a chance to genocide Europeans doesn't mean that they weren't horrendously shitty, and I'm not going to shed a tear for what happened to them.


The Europeans were the invaders and the imperialists. Fighting imperialism is not evil.

Again retribution wasn't what was discussed. It was about inter-tribe violence.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:55 am

Korouse wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Putting native children into European schools wasn't genocide. Assimilating them into an advanced society wasn't genocide.
I won't deny acts of brutality. However, that doesn't comprise the entirety of subjagation.

It was a rhetorical statement.

Fuck off. I live near an Indian reservation. There's barely any fucking clean water there, not to mention all the homelessness and suicide going on. Take your 1/128th Iroquois fat white ass over to one sometime.

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:05 am

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:There is no "them." The proletariat will never be a unified group.


I hope you are wrong.

The continued existence of the lumpenproletariat dispels any notion that the proletariat will ever be a homogeneous class...
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:22 am

Torrocca wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:>Socialist college kid bourgeoisie Red Army
vs
>Capitalist 2A-junkie proletariat White Army

What a Revolution.


>TFW college includes ROTC programs
>TFW ROTC includes learning military strategy
>TFW the Reds have access to this

top kek


you don't learn military strategy in ROTC lol. that shit is left until bolc, ccc, mdmp and other multitude of courses when you get to your assigning unit.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:44 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>TFW college includes ROTC programs
>TFW ROTC includes learning military strategy
>TFW the Reds have access to this

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I definitely never met any communists in the military. There’s was a few odd socialists. I don’t remember any socialist officers though


My interactions these days are with a group I settled into consisting of army folk and trade unionists on the dissident left of the labour party. All socialists, no commies, and i've never met a communist soldier either. I'd say they're odd socialists in that they tend toward anti-progressivism and nationalism like me, and though the trade union reps put up a front in public they're ambivalent, leaning hostile, toward progressivism and internationalism both in terms of defending their members interests and in terms of values.

I've been called Comrade on occasion in the Momentum meetings, but even that person was merely a socialist.
I'm wracking my brain trying to think of one I might have met, but nope.
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:09 am

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Who said it took precedent? One doesn't have to earn liberty, liberty is a human right.


The liberty of thieves means the robbing of their victims. The liberty of capitalists means the robbing of the proletariat. I support the liberty of the subaltern.

That's awfully authoritarian of you.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:50 am

The New California Republic wrote:The continued existence of the lumpenproletariat dispels any notion that the proletariat will ever be a homogeneous class...


The lumpenproletariat and the proletariat used to be a single class. It was unionization, which Marx and Engels were involved in, which resulted in the distinction between those two classes. If unionization spreads to the lumpenproletariat, which may not occur until the possible revolution, they will cease being an independent class.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:51 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
The liberty of thieves means the robbing of their victims. The liberty of capitalists means the robbing of the proletariat. I support the liberty of the subaltern.

That's awfully authoritarian of you.


That literally makes no sense. You are calling one of the bedrocks of libertarian Marxism authoritarian.
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