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by Ethel mermania » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:54 am
Costa Fierro wrote:New haven america wrote:You think you know about stuff like this when you really don't.
I do know this stuff. I do know about this. Oddly enough, being on the spectrum and experiencing issues with interpersonal relationships (including friendships) gives someone an insight into how they work.Scomagia wrote:How is it a recipe for guarantee failure? Explain yourself.
People with high-functioning autism have difficulties with a number of things that are essential in relationships, namely things like empathy, reading body language, communication, and emotional intelligence. These can make relationships difficult with people who don't have high-functioning autism, and having a desire for such things like emotional support and understanding but not receiving it from their partner (as is expected in relationships) will often lead to problems, which cannot always be resolved.Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I mean he is right, but only at a "on paper" point of view.
On paper yes, it sounds hella bad, but in reality it just really depends a lot.
For instance, on paper yes, the odds of a fulfilling relationship sounds awful, but on the field this relationship stuff isn't quite as dire as it looks.
On paper statistics are studies from in the field with people who are and are not in relationships. There's a reason why people studying how it affects relationships point out the difficulties and the odds involved.
by Post War America » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:14 am
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Needless to say, inverting the norm would go a long way to actually TESTING these theories of males and females. So for what purpose is it still the way it is?
Firstly, it seems to be emphasized a lot more to girls than to guys. I actually heard the opposite growing up, and was a little surprised at what the actual norm was. Could it have been done to delay teen sex as long as possible?
Might this social norm have been designed to prevent the same thing from happening among us as among other species?
If it did happen, would it be irreversible?
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by Scomagia » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:33 am
Costa Fierro wrote:New haven america wrote:You think you know about stuff like this when you really don't.
I do know this stuff. I do know about this. Oddly enough, being on the spectrum and experiencing issues with interpersonal relationships (including friendships) gives someone an insight into how they work.Scomagia wrote:How is it a recipe for guarantee failure? Explain yourself.
People with high-functioning autism have difficulties with a number of things that are essential in relationships, namely things like empathy, reading body language, communication, and emotional intelligence. These can make relationships difficult with people who don't have high-functioning autism, and having a desire for such things like emotional support and understanding but not receiving it from their partner (as is expected in relationships) will often lead to problems, which cannot always be resolved.Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I mean he is right, but only at a "on paper" point of view.
On paper yes, it sounds hella bad, but in reality it just really depends a lot.
For instance, on paper yes, the odds of a fulfilling relationship sounds awful, but on the field this relationship stuff isn't quite as dire as it looks.
On paper statistics are studies from in the field with people who are and are not in relationships. There's a reason why people studying how it affects relationships point out the difficulties and the odds involved.
by Nouveau Yathrib » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:08 am
Scomagia wrote:Costa Fierro wrote:On paper statistics are studies from in the field with people who are and are not in relationships. There's a reason why people studying how it affects relationships point out the difficulties and the odds involved.
And two high functioning autistic people would be a guaranteed failure why? They'd both understand each other better than non-autistic people and likely wouldn't do the things (like excessive or prolonged hugging) that often make autistic people super uncomfortable. In a lot of ways a relationship between two autistic people of similar functionality would be better than the alternative.
by Uxupox » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:10 am
Nouveau Yathrib wrote:Scomagia wrote:And two high functioning autistic people would be a guaranteed failure why? They'd both understand each other better than non-autistic people and likely wouldn't do the things (like excessive or prolonged hugging) that often make autistic people super uncomfortable. In a lot of ways a relationship between two autistic people of similar functionality would be better than the alternative.
Of course a relationship between two similarly functioning autistic people could work. For that to happen, they also need to find each other physically and mentally attractive. They also need to both be single at the same time.
by Diopolis » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:33 am
Myrensis wrote:Diopolis wrote:I am asserting as historical fact that humanity is perhaps 7,500 years old; certainly not much older than 8,000 years.
Out of curiosity, did Cain have some weird polyamorous relationship where he and Adam took turns having sex with Eve and making babies, or did he have to wait around in Nod until one of his baby sisters was old enough to breed?
by Scomagia » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:08 pm
Nouveau Yathrib wrote:Scomagia wrote:And two high functioning autistic people would be a guaranteed failure why? They'd both understand each other better than non-autistic people and likely wouldn't do the things (like excessive or prolonged hugging) that often make autistic people super uncomfortable. In a lot of ways a relationship between two autistic people of similar functionality would be better than the alternative.
Of course a relationship between two similarly functioning autistic people could work. For that to happen, they also need to find each other physically and mentally attractive. They also need to both be single at the same time.
by Nouveau Yathrib » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:44 pm
Scomagia wrote:Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Of course a relationship between two similarly functioning autistic people could work. For that to happen, they also need to find each other physically and mentally attractive. They also need to both be single at the same time.
Yes. And? All relationships require those variables to be just so, autistic relationships are no different. In fact, I'd argue that two autistic people of similar functionality are more likely to meet the required variables than one autistic person and one non autistic person.
by Ethel mermania » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:08 pm
Nouveau Yathrib wrote:Scomagia wrote:Yes. And? All relationships require those variables to be just so, autistic relationships are no different. In fact, I'd argue that two autistic people of similar functionality are more likely to meet the required variables than one autistic person and one non autistic person.
I think what Costa Fierro was trying to get at was that a relationship between two high-functioning autistic people can't work if they remind each other of their biggest insecurities. Or if either thinks they can do better than whatever options they currently have.
by Kaggeceria » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:17 pm
by Scomagia » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:25 pm
Nouveau Yathrib wrote:Scomagia wrote:Yes. And? All relationships require those variables to be just so, autistic relationships are no different. In fact, I'd argue that two autistic people of similar functionality are more likely to meet the required variables than one autistic person and one non autistic person.
I think what Costa Fierro was trying to get at was that a relationship between two high-functioning autistic people can't work if they remind each other of their biggest insecurities. Or if either thinks they can do better than whatever options they currently have.
by New haven america » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:29 pm
Scomagia wrote:Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
I think what Costa Fierro was trying to get at was that a relationship between two high-functioning autistic people can't work if they remind each other of their biggest insecurities. Or if either thinks they can do better than whatever options they currently have.
That's true of all relationships, though. It seems like Costa is simply manufacturing arguments against autistic relationships for no clear reason. There's nothing special about autistic relationships that make them more likely to fail than an autistic person being with a non autistic person. In fact, it would seem evident that the latter relationship has more reason to fail.
by Albrenia » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:47 pm
Diopolis wrote:Myrensis wrote:
Out of curiosity, did Cain have some weird polyamorous relationship where he and Adam took turns having sex with Eve and making babies, or did he have to wait around in Nod until one of his baby sisters was old enough to breed?
The bible is delightfully nonspecific on this point.
Most scholars believe Cain's wife was eventually one of his nieces.
by Otira » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:52 pm
Diopolis wrote:Myrensis wrote:
Out of curiosity, did Cain have some weird polyamorous relationship where he and Adam took turns having sex with Eve and making babies, or did he have to wait around in Nod until one of his baby sisters was old enough to breed?
The bible is delightfully nonspecific on this point.
Most scholars believe Cain's wife was eventually one of his nieces.
by Scomagia » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:33 pm
New haven america wrote:Scomagia wrote:That's true of all relationships, though. It seems like Costa is simply manufacturing arguments against autistic relationships for no clear reason. There's nothing special about autistic relationships that make them more likely to fail than an autistic person being with a non autistic person. In fact, it would seem evident that the latter relationship has more reason to fail.
Costa believes all MxF relationships are doomed to fail though, he's just targeting relationships with autistic people because the idea was brought up.
by New haven america » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:26 pm
by Saiwania » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:15 am
New haven america wrote:He doesn't think so. He believe he's protecting himself and his possessions/money from the evil bloodsucking harpies known as "Women" who run this oppressive gynocentric society.
by Purgatio » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:33 am
Kaggeceria wrote:Because our culture sucks and too many women are entitled.
by Diopolis » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:31 am
Saiwania wrote:New haven america wrote:He doesn't think so. He believe he's protecting himself and his possessions/money from the evil bloodsucking harpies known as "Women" who run this oppressive gynocentric society.
He is not wrong to be suspicious of women, if he feels that he doesn't need that complication in a certain stage of their life. The Shaolin temple for example, refuses to take in any women for training and requires their monks to take a vow of celibacy and to adhere to that. I figure that it must be for a good reason. Temptation distracts from what is most needed for discipline in their training towards perfection of mind and body.
Shaolin has 1,500+ years of knowledge available to them, supposedly the act of ejaculation does more to weaken the male body than losing 10 drops of blood.
by Luminesa » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:46 am
Saiwania wrote:New haven america wrote:He doesn't think so. He believe he's protecting himself and his possessions/money from the evil bloodsucking harpies known as "Women" who run this oppressive gynocentric society.
He is not wrong to be suspicious of women, if he feels that he doesn't need that complication in a certain stage of their life. The Shaolin temple for example, refuses to take in any women for training and requires their monks to take a vow of celibacy and to adhere to that. I figure that it must be for a good reason. Temptation distracts from what is most needed for discipline in their training towards perfection of mind and body.
Shaolin has 1,500+ years of knowledge available to them, supposedly the act of ejaculation does more to weaken the male body than losing 10 drops of blood.
by Scomagia » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:38 pm
Saiwania wrote:New haven america wrote:He doesn't think so. He believe he's protecting himself and his possessions/money from the evil bloodsucking harpies known as "Women" who run this oppressive gynocentric society.
He is not wrong to be suspicious of women, if he feels that he doesn't need that complication in a certain stage of their life. The Shaolin temple for example, refuses to take in any women for training and requires their monks to take a vow of celibacy and to adhere to that. I figure that it must be for a good reason. Temptation distracts from what is most needed for discipline in their training towards perfection of mind and body.
Shaolin has 1,500+ years of knowledge available to them, supposedly the act of ejaculation does more to weaken the male body than losing 10 drops of blood.
by Nioya » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:44 pm
by Costa Fierro » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:29 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Oddly enough some of us are parents of kids on the spectrum.
And there are plenty of kids in the many programs my kid has gone to over the years and they have dates and relationships. Primarily I suppose because they are open about them.
It is kind of the same with autism, just because you have it, does not make you expert in how to deal with it.
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