United States of White America wrote:Shouldn't have smoked.
Since when did smoking cause liver cancer?
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by Vassenor » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:57 pm
United States of White America wrote:Shouldn't have smoked.
by Crusader occupied mecca » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:58 pm
by United States of White America » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:58 pm
by Anollasia » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:01 pm
by Highfort » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:21 pm
United States of White America wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Since when did smoking cause liver cancer?
Since when did dying make all of your songs classics? He was vastly overrated and over-appreciated. It is tragic he died, but he should not have smoked, should not have drunk and should not have done so many drugs early on in his life. That caught up with him.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:27 pm
New Jerzylvania wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Because he was a pop star. He owned it. He was brilliant at it. And, yes, he was much more: a visual and performing artist, a businessman, a philanthropist, and a wearer of many other metaphorical and literal hats. However, he was a pop star to start off with, and he performed pop music. He and Britney Spears are both pop stars, true, but it's also true that (for example) Louis CK and Carlos Mencia are both comedians, if you see what I mean.
I see what you are trying to say. Nevertheless, I don't agree with it at all. He was more than a pop star, as you admit. The term pop star is a bit nebulous, the problem is simple as that. Why not be more definite. I'm sure he'd have preferred the term "rock star" just for starters. His music is more accurately described as rock than pop. The genre of rock is broad, and its boundaries loosely-defined, with distantly related genres sometimes included. Pop music, in popular and contemporary parlance, is a sub-genre of popular music.
The real rub here is the term "pop" is also used in a derogatory manner by those who feel that "pop" lacks any musically artistic meaning. Nothing could be further from the truth of Bowie's musical catalog. That is specifically what my point was, Yum. The term "pop" is just too ambiguous.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:29 pm
United States of White America wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Since when did smoking cause liver cancer?
Since when did dying make all of your songs classics? He was vastly overrated and over-appreciated. It is tragic he died, but he should not have smoked, should not have drunk and should not have done so many drugs early on in his life. That caught up with him.
by The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:29 pm
Crusader occupied mecca wrote:Vassenor wrote:
You got a source to back up that accusation?
Got a whole truckload of them.
https://www.google.com/search?redir_esc ... 2722229780
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by Kanaria » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:32 pm
Anollasia wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Since when did smoking cause liver cancer?
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/study ... ancer-risk
It definitely increases the risk, that's for sure. Especially if you're a heavy smoker. But it's just best to avoid smoking completely, that stuff is nasty.
by Anollasia » Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:03 pm
Kanaria wrote:My condolences to the grieving. Alas, I never knew him or his music.Anollasia wrote:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/study ... ancer-risk
It definitely increases the risk, that's for sure. Especially if you're a heavy smoker. But it's just best to avoid smoking completely, that stuff is nasty.
Ask my mum.
by New Jerzylvania » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:12 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:New Jerzylvania wrote:
I see what you are trying to say. Nevertheless, I don't agree with it at all. He was more than a pop star, as you admit. The term pop star is a bit nebulous, the problem is simple as that. Why not be more definite. I'm sure he'd have preferred the term "rock star" just for starters. His music is more accurately described as rock than pop. The genre of rock is broad, and its boundaries loosely-defined, with distantly related genres sometimes included. Pop music, in popular and contemporary parlance, is a sub-genre of popular music.
The real rub here is the term "pop" is also used in a derogatory manner by those who feel that "pop" lacks any musically artistic meaning. Nothing could be further from the truth of Bowie's musical catalog. That is specifically what my point was, Yum. The term "pop" is just too ambiguous.
Rock and roll is popular music. So is the dance music that he performed, and the R&B-influenced stuff like "Young Americans", and the industrial sounds he experimented with back in the day. Bowie was enormously influenced by Pop artists such as Warhol, so I somehow doubt that he'd have taken it as an insult. Those who believe that "Pop" lacks any sort of musically artistic meaning are showing nothing more than their own musical limitations and lack of knowledge.
Crusader occupied mecca wrote:Vassenor wrote:
You got a source to back up that accusation?
Got a whole truckload of them.
https://www.google.com/search?redir_esc ... 2722229780
by Cetacea » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:38 am
New Jerzylvania wrote:Who said he'd take it as an insult? I said he'd likely prefer rock star.
Nevertheless the term pop is still ambiguous and is taken as a derogatory term in many circles.
Let's keep this thread on what made David Bowie so great for so long
Got a whole truckload of them.
https://www.google.com/search?redir_esc ... 2722229780
by Greed and Death » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:39 am
Crusader occupied mecca wrote:Wasn't he some sort of child molester? Raping underage children is never ok no matter how good your music is.
by Greed and Death » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:40 am
Cetacea wrote:New Jerzylvania wrote:Who said he'd take it as an insult? I said he'd likely prefer rock star.
Nevertheless the term pop is still ambiguous and is taken as a derogatory term in many circles.
Let's keep this thread on what made David Bowie so great for so long
It amuses me greatly that by some definitions Amadeus Mozart was a pop star too and indeed his letters during his tours of Europe apparently outline the pressure from his father/manager, the desire for his music to be well received, an extravagant and debauched lifestyle and uncompromising focus on the quality of his music which would reflect that of the major modern Artist like Bowie too.
I think Bowie ranks up their along side Mozart as amajor musical icon whose influence on music has been outstanding and who will be remembered and revered long after their life time fades into history.Got a whole truckload of them.
https://www.google.com/search?redir_esc ... 2722229780
Bowie was cleared in the first instance and is thus innocent and in the second case I personally don't think the late confession of a self described 'groupie' who indicates that she deliberately sought him out for a consensual encounter should be considered anything especially when you consider that Bowie was himself in his 20s at the time she claims and she certainly didn't mention her age
by The Archregimancy » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:51 am
Cetacea wrote:Got a whole truckload of them.
https://www.google.com/search?redir_esc ... 2722229780
Bowie was cleared in the first instance and is thus innocent and in the second case I personally don't think the late confession of a self described 'groupie' who indicates that she deliberately sought him out for a consensual encounter should be considered anything especially when you consider that Bowie was himself in his 20s at the time she claims and she certainly didn't mention her age
by New Jerzylvania » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:53 am
Cetacea wrote:New Jerzylvania wrote:Who said he'd take it as an insult? I said he'd likely prefer rock star.
Nevertheless the term pop is still ambiguous and is taken as a derogatory term in many circles.
Let's keep this thread on what made David Bowie so great for so long
It amuses me greatly that by some definitions Amadeus Mozart was a pop star too and indeed his letters during his tours of Europe apparently outline the pressure from his father/manager, the desire for his music to be well received, an extravagant and debauched lifestyle and uncompromising focus on the quality of his music which would reflect that of the major modern Artist like Bowie too.
I think Bowie ranks up their along side Mozart as amajor musical icon whose influence on music has been outstanding and who will be remembered and revered long after their life time fades into history.Got a whole truckload of them.
https://www.google.com/search?redir_esc ... 2722229780
Bowie was cleared in the first instance and is thus innocent and in the second case I personally don't think the late confession of a self described 'groupie' who indicates that she deliberately sought him out for a consensual encounter should be considered anything especially when you consider that Bowie was himself in his 20s at the time she claims and she certainly didn't mention her age
by Faustian Fantasies » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:33 pm
by Tafhan » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:36 pm
|We are few, but we are bitter|
by New Jerzylvania » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:27 am
Tafhan wrote:One of my all time favorite Musicians. So terrible to see him go this way at such a relatively early age.
The stars look very different today.
by Ganos Lao » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:57 pm
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