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by Xoriet » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:05 pm
Eternal Lotharia wrote:"I refuse to support such a resolution because of the ineffectiveness of such a resolution. It does nothing. No Sanctions, no secondary sanctions, fiscal consequences, no withdrawing investments, no Embargoes, no Tariffs...
Nothing. It's simply a badge of honor, as voiced by many before me." The Ambassador voiced.
by Aclion » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:21 pm
Eternal Lotharia wrote:"I refuse to support such a resolution because of the ineffectiveness of such a resolution. It does nothing. No Sanctions, no secondary sanctions, fiscal consequences, no withdrawing investments, no Embargoes, no Tariffs...
by Kurnugia » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:23 pm
Aclion wrote:Eternal Lotharia wrote:"I refuse to support such a resolution because of the ineffectiveness of such a resolution. It does nothing. No Sanctions, no secondary sanctions, fiscal consequences, no withdrawing investments, no Embargoes, no Tariffs...
Go complain in moderation if you want that. As it is that sort of thing is against the SC's rules.
by Jar Wattinree » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:28 pm
Eternal Lotharia wrote:"I refuse to support such a resolution because of the ineffectiveness of such a resolution. It does nothing. No Sanctions, no secondary sanctions, fiscal consequences, no withdrawing investments, no Embargoes, no Tariffs...
Nothing. It's simply a badge of honor, as voiced by many before me." The Ambassador voiced.
by Fauxia » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:58 pm
by Kuriko » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:23 pm
Unibot III wrote:An excellent first draft. Keep it up.
Any reason you’re going after LKE and not TNI?
by Frisbeeteria » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:39 pm
Kurnugia wrote:Eternal Lotharia wrote:"I refuse to support such a resolution because of the ineffectiveness of such a resolution. It does nothing. No Sanctions, no secondary sanctions, fiscal consequences, no withdrawing investments, no Embargoes, no Tariffs...
Wouldn't this belong in technical since it's a gameplay mechanic?
by Consular » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:22 pm
Kuriko wrote:Alright, read back through. In 1 you have The New Inquisition as being invaded by the LKE, yet they never were. TNI and LKE have pretty much always been allies as far as I know, and TNI was ruled by members of the LKE ruling family including Onderkelkia and NES.
Kuriko wrote:In 5 you have the LKE invading TRR, yet that's not true at all. Onderkelkia was the ruler of TNI at that point in time, and it was under the TNI banner that they claimed victory in TRR which they proudly proclaim in the TNI WFE.
Kuriko wrote:Also, I know I'm gonna hate asking this, but why lump TBH in with TBR and DEN? As far as I know, TBH isn't nearly on the same level of horrible as the other two orgs are.
Armaros wrote:Well yeah. I know both TBR and DEN were condemned at some point but is it really necessarry to bring up two dead regions banned for rulebreaking? You can get your point through by listing other raiding regions who they hold embassies with too.
Unibot III wrote:Any reason you’re going after LKE and not TNI?
Aclion wrote:I don't much like giving recognition to TBR or DEN if no mention is made of their use of... I think we call it illegal weapons, right?
Aclion wrote:"LKE has repeatedly used the threat of violence" is ambiguous and could be interpreted to refer to actual threats of violence; as opposed to what I hope it refers to, threats of invasion, region destruction and the like.
by Lord Dominator » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:33 pm
by Consular » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:37 pm
by Lord Dominator » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:38 pm
Consular wrote:Ah yep I did see your post. Leaving it in there for now for reference. Thanks
by Flanderlion » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:24 pm
by Consular » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:37 pm
by Shrewtopia » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:39 pm
by Armaros » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:45 am
by Aclion » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:51 am
Consular wrote:Aclion wrote:I don't much like giving recognition to TBR or DEN if no mention is made of their use of... I think we call it illegal weapons, right?
Edited. Is that better?Aclion wrote:"LKE has repeatedly used the threat of violence" is ambiguous and could be interpreted to refer to actual threats of violence; as opposed to what I hope it refers to, threats of invasion, region destruction and the like.
Fair. I've changed this.
by Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:29 am
Xoriet wrote:Careful, Cassius. They're going to call you a Francoist Defender - you and everyone else who votes for this.I eagerly await my labeling.
by Consular » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:58 am
Sancta Romana Ecclesia wrote:I mean, if that's your goal, go ahead and vote for.
by Kuriko » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:00 am
Consular wrote:*ignores Onder's silly post*Kuriko wrote:Alright, read back through. In 1 you have The New Inquisition as being invaded by the LKE, yet they never were. TNI and LKE have pretty much always been allies as far as I know, and TNI was ruled by members of the LKE ruling family including Onderkelkia and NES.
For the last few months the Imperial Army has been occupying TNI.Kuriko wrote:In 5 you have the LKE invading TRR, yet that's not true at all. Onderkelkia was the ruler of TNI at that point in time, and it was under the TNI banner that they claimed victory in TRR which they proudly proclaim in the TNI WFE.
Close enough.Kuriko wrote:Also, I know I'm gonna hate asking this, but why lump TBH in with TBR and DEN? As far as I know, TBH isn't nearly on the same level of horrible as the other two orgs are.
Fair. I've removed the Hawks.Armaros wrote:Well yeah. I know both TBR and DEN were condemned at some point but is it really necessarry to bring up two dead regions banned for rulebreaking? You can get your point through by listing other raiding regions who they hold embassies with too.
I think it shows the kind of company the LKE loves to keep. I've made it clearer why those two groups are bad now -- is that better?Unibot III wrote:Any reason you’re going after LKE and not TNI?
TNI is dead. And the LKE is worse because they're a bunch of plonkers.Aclion wrote:I don't much like giving recognition to TBR or DEN if no mention is made of their use of... I think we call it illegal weapons, right?
Edited. Is that better?Aclion wrote:"LKE has repeatedly used the threat of violence" is ambiguous and could be interpreted to refer to actual threats of violence; as opposed to what I hope it refers to, threats of invasion, region destruction and the like.
Fair. I've changed this.
by Consular » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:39 am
Kuriko wrote:The Imperial Army isn't occupying TNI at all Consular, which you would know if you looked at TNI.
Kuriko wrote:Can you honestly say that an allied army, which helped to password their allied region to stop it being raided by defender forces, is occupying their ally?
by Kuriko » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:58 am
Consular wrote:Kuriko wrote:The Imperial Army isn't occupying TNI at all Consular, which you would know if you looked at TNI.
You know Lenly, I think I might just know a bit more about TNI and its history than you eh
There are no natives in TNI to complain anymore, because Onder drove them all away. He pretty much sabotaged every effort to save the place. Then Onder brought in his boys to lock the place down and turn it into his personal trophy.Kuriko wrote:Can you honestly say that an allied army, which helped to password their allied region to stop it being raided by defender forces, is occupying their ally?
Yes.
by Onderkelkia » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:12 am
Consular wrote:Kuriko wrote:The Imperial Army isn't occupying TNI at all Consular, which you would know if you looked at TNI.
You know Lenly, I think I might just know a bit more about TNI and its history than you eh
There are no natives in TNI to complain anymore, because Onder drove them all away. He pretty much sabotaged every effort to save the place. Then Onder brought in his boys to lock the place down and turn it into his personal trophy.
by Wansdyke » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:18 am
1. Random invasion and acts of destruction against too many regions to comprehensively list, but which include Belgium, The True Rebirth, Middle Earth, Fidelia, Soviet Union, Argartha, Zhe Intranational Communist, Hogwarts, Scotland, The Soviet Bloc, Slavya, Ixnay, Canada, the Coalition of Catholic States, Eastern Europe, Region Inc, Equestria, Atheist Empire, Meridon, South Pacific, The Union, Liberty Alliance, Forest, Belgium again, Philippines, Middle Earth again, Asia, Latinoamerica, South Pacific again, The International Kingdom, The Union of Red Nations, Westphalia, United Islands, Iran, and The New Inquisition.
2. Invasion, occupation, and eventual refounding of Slavia, which during this process was subjected to blackmail by LKE officials, in a common trend where the LKE has repeatedly used the threat of invasion to compel regions to act against their own interests.
3. Close collaboration with a number of disreputable regions whose only purpose for being is to invade and tear down others, and who have been widely ostracised for totally unacceptable conduct and severe violations of inter-regional law, examples including the notorious The Black Riders and DEN.
[4. Continued ridiculous acts of aggression against the Founderless Regions Alliance, a defensive organisation that sought to uphold inter-regional peace, including a series of minor tangential invasions which the LKE used to dubiously claim some kind of victory in its silly little war
5. Invasion of The Rejected Realms ("TRR") on a massive scale, during which the Emperor of the LKE would become Delegate of TRR, a fact they would arrogantly lord over the world for years to come.
6. Attempted manipulation of the region Osiris when it was under occupation by a rogue state, by dishonestly offering support to both sides and needlessly prolonging the conflict for its own benefit, which included leveraging its position to force Osiris to withdraw from the Pan-Sinker Security Pact and from the Founderless Regions Alliance, in what amounted to a blatant display of extortion.
7. Military support for the tyrannical Khanate government in its coup and occupation of Lazarus, and being noticeably absent from a coalition of peacekeepers from most prominant regions who sought to restore peace, further demonstrating the LKE's consistent agenda of destabilising regions and their populations.
8. Forced assimilation of regions into the lethargic empire and/or personal trophy collection of the LKE, which include Ilum, Polis, Munster, The Imperial Legion, and Vienna.
9. Attempted invasion of the noble and tenacious region of Moldavia no less than four times, all of which were rebuked, much to the embarrassment of the LKE's surprisingly incompetent military forces.
10. Attempted blackmail of small innocent regions through the Green-Black Concordat, where such regions could either contribute militarily to the LKE's campaigns or be considered valid targets themselves.
11. Engagement of recruitment practices that are considered against inter-regional law, and subsequently blaming these actions on a scapegoated individual when ultimately caught and punished.
12. Various other assorted affronts to the inter-regional community, such as having a garbage motto that its members feel the obnoxious need to post everywhere in entirely capital letters, and posting dispatches with broken amateurish coding.
by Xoriet » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:39 am
Wansdyke wrote:[size=666][b]TERRA REGUM IMPERATORUMQUE TOTUM MUNDUM REGET![\b][\size]
*edited 12 times and still can't get it right*
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