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Gun Control n Stuff - Only 2 Options Pick Carefully

If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
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Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:08 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
There aren't.


Have you ever played with one?


Sadly, I haven't. The only automatics I got to play with was the M16 and M60. Fun, but I was never too impressed with auto-fire. Just a good way to waste ammo.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:48 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
L85 A2.


First of all, how dare you?

My mistake, I was not aware that there were version of the SA80 that didn't completely suck.

Help from HK will do that.

I'd like to throw in the FN Scar, ACR, HK G36 and the 416.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:30 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
There aren't.


Have you ever played with one?


No
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:57 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Have you ever played with one?


Sadly, I haven't. The only automatics I got to play with was the M16 and M60. Fun, but I was never too impressed with auto-fire. Just a good way to waste ammo.


I never had to pay for my own ammunition. A good thing too given some of the things I've fired....
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:45 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:PA had weird alcohol retail laws to begin with.


I noticed that. I didn't even want the drink the bloody thing. it was to cook with.

But one could buy booze at a petrol station?

We've got some that sell booze, cigarettes, ammo, and petrol.

One stop shopping for the BATF.

That way, you only needed to get carded once.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:47 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
I noticed that. I didn't even want the drink the bloody thing. it was to cook with.

But one could buy booze at a petrol station?

We've got some that sell booze, cigarettes, ammo, and petrol.

One stop shopping for the BATF.

That way, you only needed to get carded once.


Do they sell actual guns tho?
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:51 pm

Telconi wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:We've got some that sell booze, cigarettes, ammo, and petrol.

One stop shopping for the BATF.

That way, you only needed to get carded once.


Do they sell actual guns tho?

Across the street.

I may be mistaken, though... it may be the alcohol and gasoline being across the street.

But that's also where they change oil/tires... so... and it's technically the same place... it's a big place.
-It also sells power-tools and kitchen-wares.
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Factbook and general referance thread.
HOI <- Storefront (WiP)
Due to population-cuts, military-size currently being revised

The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:It was remarkable how much could happen in as little as fifteen seconds.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:54 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Do they sell actual guns tho?

Across the street.

I may be mistaken, though... it may be the alcohol and gasoline being across the street.


awe man, I can get guns, ammo, booze, and cigarettes and cigars at a Chevron station in town lol.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:55 pm

Telconi wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Across the street.

I may be mistaken, though... it may be the alcohol and gasoline being across the street.


awe man, I can get guns, ammo, booze, and cigarettes and cigars at a Chevron station in town lol.

Pretty sure they'll watch how you load it into your car with 911 on speed-dial.

P. sure there's a thing about no alcohol in the front-seat. Add to the report that you're armed and you've got yourself one jumpy highway patrolman.
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Factbook and general referance thread.
HOI <- Storefront (WiP)
Due to population-cuts, military-size currently being revised

The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:It was remarkable how much could happen in as little as fifteen seconds.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:56 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Telconi wrote:
awe man, I can get guns, ammo, booze, and cigarettes and cigars at a Chevron station in town lol.

Pretty sure they'll watch how you load it into your car with 911 on speed-dial.

P. sure there's a thing about no alcohol in the front-seat.


Wat?
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:57 pm

Telconi wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Pretty sure they'll watch how you load it into your car with 911 on speed-dial.

P. sure there's a thing about no alcohol in the front-seat.


Wat?

Wisconsin is trying to cut down on DWIs this year... 8)
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Factbook and general referance thread.
HOI <- Storefront (WiP)
Due to population-cuts, military-size currently being revised

The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:It was remarkable how much could happen in as little as fifteen seconds.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:59 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Wat?

Wisconsin is trying to cut down on DWIs this year... 8)


Yeah, I don't think anyone gives a rat's ass. I carry all of the above products in the front seat of my car.
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:33 am

I'm against more gun control in the US. I'm with https://www.nationstates.net/nation=torrocca on this issue.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:43 am

Parti Ouvrier wrote:I'm against more gun control in the US. I'm with https://www.nationstates.net/nation=torrocca on this issue.

We all know who Torrocca is you don't have paste the link to his nation in here. His name will suffice.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:00 pm

And here we go again....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45315970
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:18 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:And here we go again....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45315970

I have a thread up with multiple links from msn, NBC, and DM
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:22 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:And here we go again....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45315970

I have a thread up with multiple links from msn, NBC, and DM


I saw. But I posted this before the thread went up.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:25 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:I have a thread up with multiple links from msn, NBC, and DM


I saw. But I posted this before the thread went up.

Too bad you put it in gun control thread.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:40 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
I saw. But I posted this before the thread went up.

Too bad you put it in gun control thread.


It's a mass shooting, it'll be in this thread sooner or later. :P
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:55 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:And here we go again....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45315970


The ride never ends...
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:57 pm

Telconi wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:And here we go again....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45315970


The ride never ends...

I blame agriculture with giving killers a target rich environment.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:52 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Telconi wrote:
The ride never ends...

I blame agriculture with giving killers a target rich environment.

What does farming and ranching have anything to do with a mass shooting at a video game tournament?
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:12 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I blame agriculture with giving killers a target rich environment.

What does farming and ranching have anything to do with a mass shooting at a video game tournament?


Without agriculture, we would never have formed cities, without cities we would never have hosted video game tournaments.
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-Religious Extremism
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:13 pm

Telconi wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:What does farming and ranching have anything to do with a mass shooting at a video game tournament?


Without agriculture, we would never have formed cities, without cities we would never have hosted video game tournaments.


I'd say the biggest contributor was soap. But it was a video game tournament....
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What's this? The ACLU defending the NRA? There must be a slight chill in hell. The start of an unholy alliance that could result in Rosemary's baby? :p
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