MAGAThread XIV: All persons born or naturalized ...

[Bombadil]

You haven't mentioned him once in the last 5 pages.. extreme right.. well there's a RWT for that.. Supreme Court.. go ahead and make a thread about them and abortion.. revolutions.. go ahead and make a thread.

..and it's hard to believe you're so passionate about the issue given your vote.

Anyway..

42% of Americans say President Donald Trump should be impeached and removed from office.

What makes it remarkable is that he's on par with President Richard Nixon, who 43% of Americans said should be impeached and removed from office in a March 1974 Harris poll. That was after the scale of Watergate came to light, but months before the House started to move against Nixon, who would go on to resign in August 1974 rather than be impeached.

Alas..

It would be divisive: 87% of Republicans and people who lean toward Republicans oppose the idea, while 71% of Democrats support it.

Of course if it was a Democrat president the Rs wouldn't give a shit, they'd be hollering for impeachment but in this case..

"Impeachment is, to me, divisive," Pelosi added [..] Again, if the facts are there, if the facts are there, then this would have to be bipartisan to go forward. But if it is viewed as partisan, it will divide the country, and I just don't think that's what we should do."

Well... she's not wrong in this case.

It's fine to be wrong if you're winning these days, it's the new reality.. truth isn't truth.

[Proctopeo]

Well... she's not wrong in this case.

It's fine to be wrong if you're winning these days, it's the new reality.. truth isn't truth.

This joke got old about the fiftieth time I heard it tbqh

[Fartsniffage]

It's fine to be wrong if you're winning these days, it's the new reality.. truth isn't truth.

This joke got old about the fiftieth time I heard it tbqh

It isn't a joke.

[Bombadil]

It's fine to be wrong if you're winning these days, it's the new reality.. truth isn't truth.

This joke got old about the fiftieth time I heard it tbqh

Well.. it's not really a joke is it when it's clearly the line of the administration, truth doesn't matter, not even an approximation.. it's winning - Trump is indisputably completely comfortable being a liar.

[Trumpisslavia]

He would have been far less comfortable if his supporters had standards. Or maybe I was right all along -- lies trigger libs, so lie and lie again!

[Telconi]

A fox news poll shows Mueller approval rating higher up, but they're being accused of manipulating the sample, polling democrats deliberately, skewing to the left, or simply that "polls mean jack shit anymore." And it's being dismissed.

What in the world?

Do these people live in their own little world that's detached from true reality?

As a Christian, this is deeply troubling.

Here's another thing as well:

A lot of people are claiming Trump did no crime, and are ironically omitting the fact that he omitted that transaction despite it being legally required, despite not being used with Campaign Funds.

Well we can just use the "Oh, he was just careless with his private e-mail server financial disclosure forms" excuse

[Dahon]

Nobody said Trumpsters are renowned for their levelheadedness and impartiality as far as their golden bull is concerned. But that has really been a constant since mid-2015.

Of potentially more disruptive ramifications is him looking over at another perennial alt-right favorite: Trump orders Pompeo to look at South African farmer killings

With Trump's talent for polarizing the discourse, if he concentrates on this, I can see this going stupid and toxic incredibly quickly, on both sides.

[Thyerata]

All my American politics podcasts, with one exception, are covering the Manafort conviction and Cohen plea. These podcasts are:
Opening Arguments
Slate's Political Gabfest
All the President's Lawyers
Slate's Amicus

You know something's going on in that case, and I live across the Pond from all the fun

[Valrifell]

A fox news poll shows Mueller approval rating higher up, but they're being accused of manipulating the sample, polling democrats deliberately, skewing to the left, or simply that "polls mean jack shit anymore." And it's being dismissed.

What in the world?

Do these people live in their own little world that's detached from true reality?

As a Christian, this is deeply troubling.

Here's another thing as well:

A lot of people are claiming Trump did no crime, and are ironically omitting the fact that he omitted that transaction despite it being legally required, despite not being used with Campaign Funds.

Well we can just use the "Oh, he was just careless with his private e-mail server financial disclosure forms" excuse

Relevance?

[Vassenor]

Well we can just use the "Oh, he was just careless with his private e-mail server financial disclosure forms" excuse

Relevance?

It's another "BUT HER EMAILS" deflection.

[Bombadil]

The reality..

To endanger Trump’s grip on the presidency, these convictions would have to somehow endanger the concrete powers that keep him there.

Today, that power center is the leadership of the Republican party in Congress, who could have ushered a swift end to this Presidency a long time ago if they wanted to. And I seriously doubt that anyone in the Republican party is unaware that Trump is probably a crook – that has been clear since long before Michael Cohen said so. But they are comfortable with that criminality, because the president also possesses substantial natural political gifts that have placed conservatives at the levers of power. From those levers, they can cut taxes, stack the courts with young conservatives, and deregulate every industry on the planet – all while Trump hoots and hollers about NFL protests and pays off former mistresses and whatever else besides. That is the price to be paid. Mitt Romney was a nice family man, but politics – to repeat the point – is about power. So long as Trump can help them hold it, they will protect him.

[Polish City-States]

Relevance?

It's another "BUT HER EMAILS" deflection.

You seriously wanted Hillary to win? She would have started a war with Russia... And peace is a virtue worth fighting for.
And don't even talk about Sanders. The madman

[Vassenor]

It's another "BUT HER EMAILS" deflection.

You seriously wanted Hillary to win? She would have started a war with Russia... And peace is a virtue worth fighting for.
And don't even talk about Sanders. The madman

"BUT THE NO FLY ZONE!"

Everybody drink.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

It's another "BUT HER EMAILS" deflection.

You seriously wanted Hillary to win? She would have started a war with Russia... And peace is a virtue worth fighting for.
And don't even talk about Sanders. The madman

We talked about this before, the claim that Hillary wanted war with Russia is based on extrapolations of what she said and enlarging them beyond proportions. She wanted to keep Syrian airspace clear with the help of the Russians. She said as much herself. Hillary Clinton, despite her failings, would have been leagues better than the current president, who seems to have violated campaign finance laws to get elected.

Luckily he is not my president.

[Polish City-States]

You seriously wanted Hillary to win? She would have started a war with Russia... And peace is a virtue worth fighting for.
And don't even talk about Sanders. The madman

"BUT THE NO FLY ZONE!"

Everybody drink.

Please just don't advocate for war this time...

@up Yeah and she would have caused the war

[Vassenor]

"BUT THE NO FLY ZONE!"

Everybody drink.

Please just don't advocate for war this time...

...when did I say that?

[Polish City-States]

Please just don't advocate for war this time...

...when did I say that?

Nevermind I'll just ignore all your hate speech this time.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

A fox news poll shows Mueller approval rating higher up, but they're being accused of manipulating the sample, polling democrats deliberately, skewing to the left, or simply that "polls mean jack shit anymore." And it's being dismissed.

What in the world?

Do these people live in their own little world that's detached from true reality?

As a Christian, this is deeply troubling.

Here's another thing as well:

A lot of people are claiming Trump did no crime, and are ironically omitting the fact that he omitted that transaction despite it being legally required, despite not being used with Campaign Funds.

Well we can just use the "Oh, he was just careless with his private e-mail server financial disclosure forms" excuse

Well Telconi, you will just have to get over the fact that Trump won the elections, not Clinton. It's 2018, time to move on.

[Vassenor]

...when did I say that?

Nevermind I'll just ignore all your hate speech this time.

And what hate speech would that be?

[Dahon]

It's another "BUT HER EMAILS" deflection.

You seriously wanted Hillary to win? She would have started a war with Russia... And peace is a virtue worth fighting for.
And don't even talk about Sanders. The madman

Most of us would've preferred Hillary, and not only with the benefit of hindsight. And seriously, this "but she would've started a war with Russia" has been dumped by Trump himself -- at least be consistent if you're gonna shill for that dick.

[Polish City-States]

Nevermind I'll just ignore all your hate speech this time.

And what hate speech would that be?

You don't know what hate speech is? Give me your definition of hate speech and I'll check (your PRIVILEGE)

Well I know that left wingers would prefer Hillary Clinton the Warmonger and what

[Dahon]

...when did I say that?

Nevermind I'll just ignore all your hate speech this time.

Trump is a person, not a skin color, a religion, or a nationality. Stop.

[Vassenor]

And what hate speech would that be?

You don't know what hate speech is? Give me your definition of hate speech and I'll check (your PRIVILEGE)

Well I know that left wingers would prefer Hillary Clinton the Warmonger and what

I know what hate speech is. Show the class where I engaged in it.

[Polish City-States]

Nevermind I'll just ignore all your hate speech this time.

Trump is a person, not a skin color, a religion, or a nationality. Stop.

But if he were black you would probably blather about the hate speech and stuff. And ban me for not agreeing with you. Dialectical materialism and all that stuff... Isn't that true?

@up I'll ask again - what is hate speech to you?

[Dahon]

Guy's a troll -- ignore him. He'll just go through the whole ringer of Hillary topics and accuse random posters of blatant lies. Don't feed.