Your Plan Has Failed (the Sequel)

[Infected Mushroom]

Every corridor a laser corridor. And all the vents. And the roof.

And the doors, and the windows, and the you know what just make everything a laser corridor like literally everything the kitchen, armory, bathroom it dose not matter just make it a laser corridor. What could go wrong?

I think you're thinking of a more "high budget" super rich type villain with a mad scientist bent. More like a James Bond villain.

I was thinking you were more of a small time Mafia captain/queen with some ambition (someone with merely city-wide ambitions rather than global and international or galactic). Maybe someone fresh out of college/high school who turns to crime because they are "good at it (someone smart academically, always had a bit of a sociopathic streak, with a very high intellect for playing street people around)." You make it big in a New York mob type of way but never did you expect to have to deal with someone with a military special forces background (and this much plot armour).

Hence the use of hired assassins and mind games.

Not exactly the type of person I'd imagine having the budget/know how to set up laser traps, wield a jet pack, or create a Doctor Doom style doomsday device/superweapon.

Think SMALL TIME. You're a small time villain. A cut smarter and above the average street material with the right blood (your uncle's probably in the mob and introduced you to connections early on) with the benefit of a liberal education and above average intellect.

But yeah... you are playing way beyond your league with this Mr. Antihero hence the inevitable...

The height of your "villainy" is probably orchestrating a few murders here and there... otherwise you're smuggling drugs and moving goods around the city; you've got some creative ideas with infiltrating labor unions and expanding a few street rackets. If you escalated to bombing a few citizens this is already considered a BIG play from you (you don't normally do that). Heck your organization is probably fronted as a cement company... and quite frankly, while you have a few dozen guys on the street, putting together a competent hit squad is actually surprisingly hard and time consuming given the disorganisation.

You're definitely NOT the Bond type villain who can open a movie through a major terrorist bombing at a huge landmark. No you're much more provincial and small time...

[Datlofff]

And the doors, and the windows, and the you know what just make everything a laser corridor like literally everything the kitchen, armory, bathroom it dose not matter just make it a laser corridor. What could go wrong?

I think you're thinking of a more "high budget" super rich type villain with a mad scientist bent. More like a James Bond villain.

I was thinking you were more of a small time Mafia captain/queen with some ambition (someone with merely city-wide ambitions rather than global and international or galactic). Maybe someone fresh out of college/high school who turns to crime because they are "good at it (someone smart academically, always had a bit of a sociopathic streak, with a very high intellect for playing street people around)." You make it big in a New York mob type of way but never did you expect to have to deal with someone with a military special forces background (and this much plot armour).

Hence the use of hired assassins and mind games.

Not exactly the type of person I'd imagine having the budget/know how to set up laser traps, wield a jet pack, or create a Doctor Doom style doomsday device/superweapon.

Think SMALL TIME. You're a small time villain. A cut smarter and above the average street material with the right blood (your uncle's probably in the mob and introduced you to connections early on) with the benefit of a liberal education and above average intellect.

But yeah... you are playing way beyond your league with this Mr. Antihero hence the inevitable...

Thats what the dead mans switch suicide vest is for. If he kills me, he dies too.

[Infected Mushroom]

I think you're thinking of a more "high budget" super rich type villain with a mad scientist bent. More like a James Bond villain.

I was thinking you were more of a small time Mafia captain/queen with some ambition (someone with merely city-wide ambitions rather than global and international or galactic). Maybe someone fresh out of college/high school who turns to crime because they are "good at it (someone smart academically, always had a bit of a sociopathic streak, with a very high intellect for playing street people around)." You make it big in a New York mob type of way but never did you expect to have to deal with someone with a military special forces background (and this much plot armour).

Hence the use of hired assassins and mind games.

Not exactly the type of person I'd imagine having the budget/know how to set up laser traps, wield a jet pack, or create a Doctor Doom style doomsday device/superweapon.

Think SMALL TIME. You're a small time villain. A cut smarter and above the average street material with the right blood (your uncle's probably in the mob and introduced you to connections early on) with the benefit of a liberal education and above average intellect.

But yeah... you are playing way beyond your league with this Mr. Antihero hence the inevitable...

Thats what the dead mans switch suicide vest is for. If he kills me, he dies too.

that sounds more like something within your budget... wouldn't be surprised if you went cheap and got the grenade from an uncle's basement too (who served in WWII or something)

[The New California Republic]

And the doors, and the windows, and the you know what just make everything a laser corridor like literally everything the kitchen, armory, bathroom it dose not matter just make it a laser corridor. What could go wrong?

I think you're thinking of a more "high budget" super rich type villain with a mad scientist bent. More like a James Bond villain.

I was thinking you were more of a small time Mafia captain/queen with some ambition (someone with merely city-wide ambitions rather than global and international or galactic). Maybe someone fresh out of college/high school who turns to crime because they are "good at it (someone smart academically, always had a bit of a sociopathic streak, with a very high intellect for playing street people around)." You make it big in a New York mob type of way but never did you expect to have to deal with someone with a military special forces background (and this much plot armour).

Based on this in the OP, I think that I am a Bond villain:

You are the main antagonist in a "guilty pleasure" trashy over-the-top B movie action flick. While trying to take over the city's underworld you accidentally kill Mr. Antihero's loved ones and other innocents. This sets Mr. Antihero off on a crusade against all organised crime in the city. Being protected by unbelievable plot armour and armed with a convenient ex US Army Ranger background (or Delta Force, even the movie confuses the two on dialogue but he's definitely been to Afghanistan)... Mr. Antihero kills dozens and dozens of gangsters by himself. As is typical of the subversive grungy comic the movie is based off of, Mr. Antihero is particularly brutal in the ways that he executes his defeated enemies.

You send out a whole bunch of professional hitmen from Europe and the Caribbean as well as a couple of corrupt CIA officers to take him out but Mr. Antihero kills them all.

The laser corridor to my lair stays. It is only one teeny little laser corridor, let me have my fun. I want to watch the fucker get diced into bits, a pathetic end for the guy.

[Infected Mushroom]

Turn myself in to the police before he gets to me. That way the antihero becomes the villain when he starts killing cops to get to me. If he shows up after, I’ll point out the swath of death behind him and say: “It stopped being about justice a long time ago. Now you’re just killing people for fun. That’s what happens when one embarks on a quest of revenge. G’head and kill me now, I’ll save you a prime seat in hell.”

Oh the police will protect you. Then Mr. Antihero calls in a "favour" from Afghanistan and one of his friends from the department smuggle you out into the forest to face a very slow and painful death (mostly shown off screen but part of it shown for the audience's satisfaction) at the hands of Mr. Antihero. Never mind HOW you were smuggled out or why any police officer would risk their career... I mean, its clearly what the audience wants to see.

I don't know if you can still effectively lecture when you'd be in considerable pain I'd imagine...

[Datlofff]

Thats what the dead mans switch suicide vest is for. If he kills me, he dies too.

that sounds more like something within your budget... wouldn't be surprised if you went cheap and got the grenade from an uncle's basement too (who served in WWII or something)

Well jihadi's in the desert come up with more elaborate ways than that to do such things. I was thinking maybe a handful of frag grenades and maybe some claymores strapped to myself on a dead mans hand. Should movie anti-hero actually kill me, then he would die in the process as well.

[Xmara]

Combine option 5 and 6. Bring the antihero into my lair or whatever, let him sit down, turn on the classical music, sit down across from him (with feet on the coffee table, perhaps) and casually start explaining about it being business and not personal.

[Ifreann]

And the doors, and the windows, and the you know what just make everything a laser corridor like literally everything the kitchen, armory, bathroom it dose not matter just make it a laser corridor. What could go wrong?

I think you're thinking of a more "high budget" super rich type villain with a mad scientist bent. More like a James Bond villain.

I was thinking you were more of a small time Mafia captain/queen with some ambition (someone with merely city-wide ambitions rather than global and international or galactic). Maybe someone fresh out of college/high school who turns to crime because they are "good at it (someone smart academically, always had a bit of a sociopathic streak, with a very high intellect for playing street people around)." You make it big in a New York mob type of way but never did you expect to have to deal with someone with a military special forces background (and this much plot armour).

Hence the use of hired assassins and mind games.

Not exactly the type of person I'd imagine having the budget/know how to set up laser traps, wield a jet pack, or create a Doctor Doom style doomsday device/superweapon.

Think SMALL TIME. You're a small time villain. A cut smarter and above the average street material with the right blood (your uncle's probably in the mob and introduced you to connections early on) with the benefit of a liberal education and above average intellect.

But yeah... you are playing way beyond your league with this Mr. Antihero hence the inevitable...

The height of your "villainy" is probably orchestrating a few murders here and there... otherwise you're smuggling drugs and moving goods around the city; you've got some creative ideas with infiltrating labor unions and expanding a few street rackets. If you escalated to bombing a few citizens this is already considered a BIG play from you (you don't normally do that). Heck your organization is probably fronted as a cement company... and quite frankly, while you have a few dozen guys on the street, putting together a competent hit squad is actually surprisingly hard and time consuming given the disorganisation.

You're definitely NOT the Bond type villain who can open a movie through a major terrorist bombing at a huge landmark. No you're much more provincial and small time...

"You're a small time criminal"

...Mr. Antihero kills dozens and dozens of gangsters by himself. As is typical of the subversive grungy comic the movie is based off of, Mr. Antihero is particularly brutal in the ways that he executes his defeated enemies.

You send out a whole bunch of professional hitmen from Europe and the Caribbean as well as a couple of corrupt CIA officers to take him out but Mr. Antihero kills them all...

"Who can hire many very expensive people to commit murders"

[The New California Republic]

I think you're thinking of a more "high budget" super rich type villain with a mad scientist bent. More like a James Bond villain.

I was thinking you were more of a small time Mafia captain/queen with some ambition (someone with merely city-wide ambitions rather than global and international or galactic). Maybe someone fresh out of college/high school who turns to crime because they are "good at it (someone smart academically, always had a bit of a sociopathic streak, with a very high intellect for playing street people around)." You make it big in a New York mob type of way but never did you expect to have to deal with someone with a military special forces background (and this much plot armour).

Hence the use of hired assassins and mind games.

Not exactly the type of person I'd imagine having the budget/know how to set up laser traps, wield a jet pack, or create a Doctor Doom style doomsday device/superweapon.

Think SMALL TIME. You're a small time villain. A cut smarter and above the average street material with the right blood (your uncle's probably in the mob and introduced you to connections early on) with the benefit of a liberal education and above average intellect.

But yeah... you are playing way beyond your league with this Mr. Antihero hence the inevitable...

The height of your "villainy" is probably orchestrating a few murders here and there... otherwise you're smuggling drugs and moving goods around the city; you've got some creative ideas with infiltrating labor unions and expanding a few street rackets. If you escalated to bombing a few citizens this is already considered a BIG play from you (you don't normally do that). Heck your organization is probably fronted as a cement company... and quite frankly, while you have a few dozen guys on the street, putting together a competent hit squad is actually surprisingly hard and time consuming given the disorganisation.

You're definitely NOT the Bond type villain who can open a movie through a major terrorist bombing at a huge landmark. No you're much more provincial and small time...

"You're a small time criminal"

...Mr. Antihero kills dozens and dozens of gangsters by himself. As is typical of the subversive grungy comic the movie is based off of, Mr. Antihero is particularly brutal in the ways that he executes his defeated enemies.

You send out a whole bunch of professional hitmen from Europe and the Caribbean as well as a couple of corrupt CIA officers to take him out but Mr. Antihero kills them all...

"Who can hire many very expensive people to commit murders"

Yup. That's exactly why I assumed that this scenario involves me being a supervillain of some kind, quite possibly of the Bond variety. Someone sending assassins on globetrotting missions to find and kill one seemingly indestructible man just reeks of a Bond-esque plotline...

[The Empire of Pretantia]

"Bricks are domesticated rocks."

Run as the realization hits him.

[Dogmeat]

"It was just a fucking dog!"

Plot twist: the Dog was the villain all along.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

"It was just a fucking dog!"

Plot twist: the Dog was the villain all along.

That would've made John feel quite embarrassed.

[Dogmeat]

Plot twist: the Dog was the villain all along.

That would've made John feel quite embarrassed.

"Why did I do it? "Master?" After you tore me from my mother and my siblings? After you cut my balls off? After you called me a "bad dog?"

"Well now you know what a "bad dog" really is."

[Ifreann]

"Bricks are domesticated rocks."

Run as the realization hits him.

send help my mind is imploding

[Infected Mushroom]

I think you're thinking of a more "high budget" super rich type villain with a mad scientist bent. More like a James Bond villain.

I was thinking you were more of a small time Mafia captain/queen with some ambition (someone with merely city-wide ambitions rather than global and international or galactic). Maybe someone fresh out of college/high school who turns to crime because they are "good at it (someone smart academically, always had a bit of a sociopathic streak, with a very high intellect for playing street people around)." You make it big in a New York mob type of way but never did you expect to have to deal with someone with a military special forces background (and this much plot armour).

Hence the use of hired assassins and mind games.

Not exactly the type of person I'd imagine having the budget/know how to set up laser traps, wield a jet pack, or create a Doctor Doom style doomsday device/superweapon.

Think SMALL TIME. You're a small time villain. A cut smarter and above the average street material with the right blood (your uncle's probably in the mob and introduced you to connections early on) with the benefit of a liberal education and above average intellect.

But yeah... you are playing way beyond your league with this Mr. Antihero hence the inevitable...

The height of your "villainy" is probably orchestrating a few murders here and there... otherwise you're smuggling drugs and moving goods around the city; you've got some creative ideas with infiltrating labor unions and expanding a few street rackets. If you escalated to bombing a few citizens this is already considered a BIG play from you (you don't normally do that). Heck your organization is probably fronted as a cement company... and quite frankly, while you have a few dozen guys on the street, putting together a competent hit squad is actually surprisingly hard and time consuming given the disorganisation.

You're definitely NOT the Bond type villain who can open a movie through a major terrorist bombing at a huge landmark. No you're much more provincial and small time...

"You're a small time criminal"

...Mr. Antihero kills dozens and dozens of gangsters by himself. As is typical of the subversive grungy comic the movie is based off of, Mr. Antihero is particularly brutal in the ways that he executes his defeated enemies.

You send out a whole bunch of professional hitmen from Europe and the Caribbean as well as a couple of corrupt CIA officers to take him out but Mr. Antihero kills them all...

"Who can hire many very expensive people to commit murders"

In many of these edgy comics/movies it’s a standard move for a city gangster (like Howard Saint, Ma Gnucci, the Mayor from Sin City etc) to be able to hire assassins from out of town

You’re a mob boss in a place like New York so you do have business contacts and killer networks

However, you’re not very tech savvy not all that much of a visionary when it comes to your diabolical plans

Your grand plans are city wide and completely tame compared to a Bond villain (ex infiltrating a big trade union might be the sum of your ambitions...even a public bombing is a high play for you while it’s typical for a Bond villain)

Notice how I said in the op your evil plan is merely to take over a city underworld and how you are gazed at antihero’s Military/special forces background? A Bond villain typically deals with special forces good guys. The city big bad not so much.

[Infected Mushroom]

"You're a small time criminal"

"Who can hire many very expensive people to commit murders"

Yup. That's exactly why I assumed that this scenario involves me being a supervillain of some kind, quite possibly of the Bond variety. Someone sending assassins on globetrotting missions to find and kill one seemingly indestructible man just reeks of a Bond-esque plotline...

You know it’s not that expensive right??? At least for a city mob (you can take in a few million dollars yearly)

It’s the connections that are hard (you need to know actual killers or people who will put you in touch with actual killers). A New York/LA mob boss without police heat can definitely pull it off. At most it will cost a few millions per hit on the top end.

[The New California Republic]

Yup. That's exactly why I assumed that this scenario involves me being a supervillain of some kind, quite possibly of the Bond variety. Someone sending assassins on globetrotting missions to find and kill one seemingly indestructible man just reeks of a Bond-esque plotline...

You know it’s not that expensive right??? At least for a city mob (you can take in a few million dollars yearly)

It’s the connections that are hard (you need to know actual killers or people who will put you in touch with actual killers). A New York/LA mob boss without police heat can definitely pull it off. At most it will cost a few millions per hit on the top end.

A mafia hit is a bit different from the kind of shit alluded to in the OP, with waves of assassins being sent on international hunts to kill a seemingly indestructible man.

[Chan Island]

Yup. That's exactly why I assumed that this scenario involves me being a supervillain of some kind, quite possibly of the Bond variety. Someone sending assassins on globetrotting missions to find and kill one seemingly indestructible man just reeks of a Bond-esque plotline...

You know it’s not that expensive right??? At least for a city mob (you can take in a few million dollars yearly)

It’s the connections that are hard (you need to know actual killers or people who will put you in touch with actual killers). A New York/LA mob boss without police heat can definitely pull it off. At most it will cost a few millions per hit on the top end.

In which case the rule of cool does demand that the B-movie villain needs a jetpack.

[Infected Mushroom]

You know it’s not that expensive right??? At least for a city mob (you can take in a few million dollars yearly)

It’s the connections that are hard (you need to know actual killers or people who will put you in touch with actual killers). A New York/LA mob boss without police heat can definitely pull it off. At most it will cost a few millions per hit on the top end.

A mafia hit is a bit different from the kind of shit alluded to in the OP, with waves of assassins being sent on international hunts to kill a seemingly indestructible man.

You don’t have waves of disposable henchmen.

On paper you have hundreds of people which makes you look huge but in practice you’re not that powerful. The vast majority of your crews are “logistical” and not “muscle.” That is, they are simple loading/construction people, shady store runners, weed growers or white collar crime support. Most of them are “associates” who know very little and wouldn’t have the know how to extort people properly (let alone murder on command). Some may carry a gun or you could put a gun in their hands but they wouldn’t be very effective.

TLDR You have lots of “crews” working for you but most of them aren’t “muscle.”

In practice though you may have a dozen captains each with a few soldiers it may be hard to Marshall them effectively because of internal politics. The people who are the true muscle, people you can literally call up and say “go murder x” are very specialized and few. Plus at any time you’ve got parts of your crew rolling in and out of the prison system and huge amount units of money have to go out to control the damage.

So in practice, no you can’t mobilize an army even with you “leading” hundreds of people and with most of them paying you a cut of everything (and you bet lots of people cheat/withhold tribute from you).

Most of the high end pros are international and you can really only afford 1 vs 1s, maybe the occasional 3 pros v antihero.

As for your on the ground troops... 50 people is already a huge effort and that assumes you put some truly inexperienced regular street movers with a tough streak a gun (only 1/3 of these guys are true hit men).

..

In fact, you’re such a small timer that you’re the scariest and baddest in the city by rep and history only. You threaten people and keep people divided but if your power is tested, it’s a huge effort to put together a hit squad. You’ve obviously got a dozen or so hard core killers though but it’s a lot less then the size of your organization should be able to field.

Literally if the local ms 13 and the Yakuza joined forces you could be ousted.

[Chan Island]

A mafia hit is a bit different from the kind of shit alluded to in the OP, with waves of assassins being sent on international hunts to kill a seemingly indestructible man.

You don’t have waves of disposable henchmen.

On paper you have hundreds of people which makes you look huge but in practice you’re not that powerful. The vast majority of your crews are “logistical” and not “muscle.” That is, they are simple loading/construction people, shady store runners, weed growers or white collar crime support. Most of them are “associates” who know very little and wouldn’t have the know how to extort people properly (let alone murder on command). Some may carry a gun or you could put a gun in their hands but they wouldn’t be very effective.

TLDR You have lots of “crews” working for you but most of them aren’t “muscle.”

In practice though you may have a dozen captains each with a few soldiers it may be hard to Marshall them effectively because of internal politics. The people who are the true muscle, people you can literally call up and say “go murder x” are very specialized and few. Plus at any time you’ve got parts of your crew rolling in and out of the prison system and huge amount units of money have to go out to control the damage.

So in practice, no you can’t mobilize an army even with you “leading” hundreds of people and with most of them paying you a cut of everything (and you bet lots of people cheat/withhold tribute from you).

Most of the high end pros are international and you can really only afford 1 vs 1s, maybe the occasional 3 pros v antihero.

As for your on the ground troops... 50 people is already a huge effort and that assumes you put some truly inexperienced regular street movers with a tough streak a gun (only 1/3 of these guys are true hit men).

..

In fact, you’re such a small timer that you’re the scariest and baddest in the city by rep and history only. You threaten people and keep people divided but if your power is tested, it’s a huge effort to put together a hit squad. You’ve obviously got a dozen or so hard core killers though but it’s a lot less then the size of your organization should be able to field.

Literally if the local ms 13 and the Yakuza joined forces you could be ousted.

My disappointment on what a small time villain I am in this B- movie knows no bounds.

[The New California Republic]

A mafia hit is a bit different from the kind of shit alluded to in the OP, with waves of assassins being sent on international hunts to kill a seemingly indestructible man.

You don’t have waves of disposable henchmen.

On paper you have hundreds of people which makes you look huge but in practice you’re not that powerful. The vast majority of your crews are “logistical” and not “muscle.” That is, they are simple loading/construction people, shady store runners, weed growers or white collar crime support. Most of them are “associates” who know very little and wouldn’t have the know how to extort people properly (let alone murder on command). Some may carry a gun or you could put a gun in their hands but they wouldn’t be very effective.

TLDR You have lots of “crews” working for you but most of them aren’t “muscle.”

In practice though you may have a dozen captains each with a few soldiers it may be hard to Marshall them effectively because of internal politics. The people who are the true muscle, people you can literally call up and say “go murder x” are very specialized and few. Plus at any time you’ve got parts of your crew rolling in and out of the prison system and huge amount units of money have to go out to control the damage.

So in practice, no you can’t mobilize an army even with you “leading” hundreds of people and with most of them paying you a cut of everything (and you bet lots of people cheat/withhold tribute from you).

Most of the high end pros are international and you can really only afford 1 vs 1s, maybe the occasional 3 pros v antihero.

As for your on the ground troops... 50 people is already a huge effort and that assumes you put some truly inexperienced regular street movers with a tough streak a gun (only 1/3 of these guys are true hit men).

Oh come on. There is a fundamental disconnect in the OP. On the one hand, there is a suggestion that I am a mafioso, and yet I have the resources to send many assassins on international manhunts to kill a seemingly indestructible man. That is serious Bond-esque shit. Surely you can see that? Please for the love of God tell me you can see that? Please? Please?

[The Great-German Empire]

I'm going with the classical music option; Except said 'classical music' is the third or fourth movement of Dvorak's New World Symphony, and I have an MG-3. When I am killed, I die quickly - because Mr. Antihero was too preoccupied with surviving to care about leaving me alive to torture. My last words? "It's been fun. I'll see you in hell."

[Infected Mushroom]

You don’t have waves of disposable henchmen.

On paper you have hundreds of people which makes you look huge but in practice you’re not that powerful. The vast majority of your crews are “logistical” and not “muscle.” That is, they are simple loading/construction people, shady store runners, weed growers or white collar crime support. Most of them are “associates” who know very little and wouldn’t have the know how to extort people properly (let alone murder on command). Some may carry a gun or you could put a gun in their hands but they wouldn’t be very effective.

TLDR You have lots of “crews” working for you but most of them aren’t “muscle.”

In practice though you may have a dozen captains each with a few soldiers it may be hard to Marshall them effectively because of internal politics. The people who are the true muscle, people you can literally call up and say “go murder x” are very specialized and few. Plus at any time you’ve got parts of your crew rolling in and out of the prison system and huge amount units of money have to go out to control the damage.

So in practice, no you can’t mobilize an army even with you “leading” hundreds of people and with most of them paying you a cut of everything (and you bet lots of people cheat/withhold tribute from you).

Most of the high end pros are international and you can really only afford 1 vs 1s, maybe the occasional 3 pros v antihero.

As for your on the ground troops... 50 people is already a huge effort and that assumes you put some truly inexperienced regular street movers with a tough streak a gun (only 1/3 of these guys are true hit men).

..

In fact, you’re such a small timer that you’re the scariest and baddest in the city by rep and history only. You threaten people and keep people divided but if your power is tested, it’s a huge effort to put together a hit squad. You’ve obviously got a dozen or so hard core killers though but it’s a lot less then the size of your organization should be able to field.

Literally if the local ms 13 and the Yakuza joined forces you could be ousted.

My disappointment on what a small time villain I am in this B- movie knows no bounds.

Plus these guys with guns, their resume primarily consists of shooting at defenseless people. Anyone with actual military training/past is probably too disciplined and clean to have anything to do with your empire.

Think of a post-Gotti mafia faction. It’s more or less what you’re working with. Plus your troops have little backbone or true loyalty; there’s no die-hard yakuza warrior spirit here. You’ve got a western mob with some trigger men who are at best a sociopathic upgrade of Jesse pinkman.

[Infected Mushroom]

You don’t have waves of disposable henchmen.

On paper you have hundreds of people which makes you look huge but in practice you’re not that powerful. The vast majority of your crews are “logistical” and not “muscle.” That is, they are simple loading/construction people, shady store runners, weed growers or white collar crime support. Most of them are “associates” who know very little and wouldn’t have the know how to extort people properly (let alone murder on command). Some may carry a gun or you could put a gun in their hands but they wouldn’t be very effective.

TLDR You have lots of “crews” working for you but most of them aren’t “muscle.”

In practice though you may have a dozen captains each with a few soldiers it may be hard to Marshall them effectively because of internal politics. The people who are the true muscle, people you can literally call up and say “go murder x” are very specialized and few. Plus at any time you’ve got parts of your crew rolling in and out of the prison system and huge amount units of money have to go out to control the damage.

So in practice, no you can’t mobilize an army even with you “leading” hundreds of people and with most of them paying you a cut of everything (and you bet lots of people cheat/withhold tribute from you).

Most of the high end pros are international and you can really only afford 1 vs 1s, maybe the occasional 3 pros v antihero.

As for your on the ground troops... 50 people is already a huge effort and that assumes you put some truly inexperienced regular street movers with a tough streak a gun (only 1/3 of these guys are true hit men).

Oh come on. There is a fundamental disconnect in the OP. On the one hand, there is a suggestion that I am a mafioso, and yet I have the resources to send many assassins on international manhunts to kill a seemingly indestructible man. That is serious Bond-esque shit. Surely you can see that? Please for the love of God tell me you can see that? Please? Please?

Many as in more then 1

I mean come now, even in the Thomas Jane Punisher film the big bad only sent a total of 2 out of state elite assassins (1 was just out of state, the other Russian)... then his regular crew had what... only 20 people? And he was the big bad of Tampa Florida.

Real life mafioso have a hard time putting hit squads together, they rely a lot on intimidation and soft power

A squad of 50 plus people all in one place is already stretching the cap of your villain capabilities (plus a handful of international pros)

You can also bet many will run off as soon as guns go off, these are western mobsters not fanatics with die hard loyalty

[The New California Republic]

Oh come on. There is a fundamental disconnect in the OP. On the one hand, there is a suggestion that I am a mafioso, and yet I have the resources to send many assassins on international manhunts to kill a seemingly indestructible man. That is serious Bond-esque shit. Surely you can see that? Please for the love of God tell me you can see that? Please? Please?

Many as in more then 1

Oh come on. When someone says "many" it doesn't just mean more than 1. I know you are trying to engage in damage control here, but jeez...