LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan

[Northern Davincia]

Just popping in to say that RAND is indeed a top notch source, would recommend.

Truth spoken from the mouth of an imperialist somehow becomes untrue. This must be Marx Magic.

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/p ... /N2490.pdf
Here are the proofs you requested, comrade.

"The RAND Corporation is funded by U.S. government agencies; U.S. state and local governments; non-U.S. governments, agencies, and ministries; international organizations; colleges and universities; foundations; professional associations; other nonprofit organizations; and industry."

I see no reason for why a US-government-funded organization wouldn't have a bias against the very person it overthrew, even though it's allegedly "unbiased".

>Factual Reporting: High
>"Least Biased"

I assume (and hope) that you read your own source.

[Torrocca]

Just popping in to say that RAND is indeed a top notch source, would recommend.

Truth spoken from the mouth of an imperialist somehow becomes untrue. This must be Marx Magic.

"The RAND Corporation is funded by U.S. government agencies; U.S. state and local governments; non-U.S. governments, agencies, and ministries; international organizations; colleges and universities; foundations; professional associations; other nonprofit organizations; and industry."

I see no reason for why a US-government-funded organization wouldn't have a bias against the very person it overthrew, even though it's allegedly "unbiased".

>Factual Reporting: High
>"Least Biased"

I assume (and hope) that you read your own source.

I did read it, tyvm. Hence why, when I read, "The RAND Corporation is funded by U.S. government agencies; U.S. state and local governments; non-U.S. governments, agencies, and ministries; international organizations; colleges and universities; foundations; professional associations; other nonprofit organizations; and industry," my red flags were raised, and they weren't the good, revolutionary kind. Particularly since the given report was written at the literal height of the Cold War.

Another source would be muy bueno.

[Northern Davincia]

Truth spoken from the mouth of an imperialist somehow becomes untrue. This must be Marx Magic.

>Factual Reporting: High
>"Least Biased"

I assume (and hope) that you read your own source.

I did read it, tyvm. Hence why, when I read, "The RAND Corporation is funded by U.S. government agencies; U.S. state and local governments; non-U.S. governments, agencies, and ministries; international organizations; colleges and universities; foundations; professional associations; other nonprofit organizations; and industry," my red flags were raised, and they weren't the good, revolutionary kind. Particularly since the given report was written at the literal height of the Cold War.

Another source would be muy bueno.

http://links.org.au/chile-allende-pinoc ... t-movement
Allende lifted the ban on the MIR, a leftist terror organization. He also encouraged their violent seizure of private property.

[Torrocca]

I did read it, tyvm. Hence why, when I read, "The RAND Corporation is funded by U.S. government agencies; U.S. state and local governments; non-U.S. governments, agencies, and ministries; international organizations; colleges and universities; foundations; professional associations; other nonprofit organizations; and industry," my red flags were raised, and they weren't the good, revolutionary kind. Particularly since the given report was written at the literal height of the Cold War.

Another source would be muy bueno.

http://links.org.au/chile-allende-pinoc ... t-movement
Allende lifted the ban on the MIR, a leftist terror organization. He also encouraged their violent seizure of private property.

"The MIR “is organized to be the Marxist-Leninist vanguard of the working class and oppressed layers of Chile who seek national and social emancipation.”[5]"

FFS Allende you tit.

[Great Minarchistan]

I thought a lot of you guys promoted Keynesian economics (not necessarily military keynesianism) and large-scale welfare policies, both of which were enacted by Nazi Germany?

Who the hell are you guys? Why would a communist, like me, promote the evils of Keynesianism?

Because communist radicals obviously compose a majority or a significant amount of people on this thread^/s

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Not a fan of egoistic anarchism (mainly because it feels cognitively dissonant) but Ōsugi Sakae is an interesting person regardless.

It is also, IMO, a denial of our shared humanity.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Because communist radicals obviously compose a majority or a significant amount of people on this thread^/s

The poster was claiming that most people in this thread are Keynesians, not communists.

[Torrocca]

Who the hell are you guys? Why would a communist, like me, promote the evils of Keynesianism?

Because communist radicals obviously compose a majority or a significant amount of people on this thread^/s

When so many people are favorable toward Orwell the Libertarian Socialist, then obviously there'd be a lot of Socialists here :^)

[Great Minarchistan]

Because communist radicals obviously compose a majority or a significant amount of people on this thread^/s

The poster was claiming that most people in this thread are Keynesians, not communists.

The poster being me -- notice the /s at the end btw

[Great Minarchistan]

Because communist radicals obviously compose a majority or a significant amount of people on this thread^/s

When so many people are favorable toward Orwell the Libertarian Socialist, then obviously there'd be a lot of Socialists here :^)

've met quite a noticeable amount of socialist keynesians, so my point still stands :^)

[United Muscovite Nations]

Because communist radicals obviously compose a majority or a significant amount of people on this thread^/s

The poster was claiming that most people in this thread are Keynesians, not communists.

Most of the people here now are fascists and libertarians.

This thread is dead now tbh. I can't help but feel partly responsible because I was the first RWDT denizen to start posting here, but I have no idea it would cause such a huge change.

[Torrocca]

When so many people are favorable toward Orwell the Libertarian Socialist, then obviously there'd be a lot of Socialists here :^)

've met quite a noticeable amount of socialist keynesians, so my point still stands :^)

Fake news :^)

[Nekokuni]

The poster was claiming that most people in this thread are Keynesians, not communists.

Most of the people here now are fascists and libertarians.

This thread is dead now tbh. I can't help but feel partly responsible because I was the first RWDT denizen to start posting here, but I have no idea it would cause such a huge change.

Don't be so hard on yourself. You couldn't have anticipated

[Northern Davincia]

The poster was claiming that most people in this thread are Keynesians, not communists.

Most of the people here now are fascists and libertarians.

This thread is dead now tbh. I can't help but feel partly responsible because I was the first RWDT denizen to start posting here, but I have no idea it would cause such a huge change.

Imperialism is a powerful drug.

[Torrocca]

The poster was claiming that most people in this thread are Keynesians, not communists.

Most of the people here now are fascists and libertarians.

This thread is dead now tbh. I can't help but feel partly responsible because I was the first RWDT denizen to start posting here, but I have no idea it would cause such a huge change.

We beat 'em before, we'll beat 'em again! :3

[Grenartia]

Most of the people here now are fascists and libertarians.

This thread is dead now tbh. I can't help but feel partly responsible because I was the first RWDT denizen to start posting here, but I have no idea it would cause such a huge change.

We beat 'em before, we'll beat 'em again! :3

Bomber Harris do it again

[Nekokuni]

Not a fan of egoistic anarchism (mainly because it feels cognitively dissonant) but Ōsugi Sakae is an interesting person regardless.

It is also, IMO, a denial of our shared humanity.

Well, yes, essentially. While I'm not a Marxist, Marx does have a point in criticizing the “idealism” of Stirner's works. Stirner ignores that the ego is fundamentally created and conditioned by the community, rather than being some Absolute at the center of everything. His work throws psychology and neuroscience out the window as well, the same way that Rand's does, by positing that everything is the product of egotistical interest.

We beat 'em before, we'll beat 'em again! :3

Bomber Harris do it again

Some say Sir Arthur Harris is restocking the plane for one last phantom ride the next time Unite the Right happens.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

The poster being me -- notice the /s at the end btw

Ah, so I will replace the poster with you.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

've met quite a noticeable amount of socialist keynesians, so my point still stands :^)

There are some socialist post-Keynesians (sometimes spelled post Keynesians). Keynesians, by definition, are social democrats, not socialists.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

This thread is dead now tbh. I can't help but feel partly responsible because I was the first RWDT denizen to start posting here, but I have no idea it would cause such a huge change.

All threads are fluid. It might be entirely different in a few days.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Well, yes, essentially. While I'm not a Marxist, Marx does have a point in criticizing the “idealism” of Stirner's works. Stirner ignores that the ego is fundamentally created and conditioned by the community, rather than being some Absolute at the center of everything. His work throws psychology and neuroscience out the window as well, the same way that Rand's does, by positing that everything is the product of egotistical interest.

IMO, both Stirner and Rand, for somewhat different reasons, denied the existence of human nature which, IMO, is a universal, not a particular.

[Northern Davincia]

Well, yes, essentially. While I'm not a Marxist, Marx does have a point in criticizing the “idealism” of Stirner's works. Stirner ignores that the ego is fundamentally created and conditioned by the community, rather than being some Absolute at the center of everything. His work throws psychology and neuroscience out the window as well, the same way that Rand's does, by positing that everything is the product of egotistical interest.

IMO, both Stirner and Rand, for somewhat different reasons, denied the existence of human nature which, IMO, is a universal, not a particular.

When did either of them do that?

[Proctopeo]

The poster was claiming that most people in this thread are Keynesians, not communists.

Most of the people here now are fascists and libertarians.

This thread is dead now tbh. I can't help but feel partly responsible because I was the first RWDT denizen to start posting here, but I have no idea it would cause such a huge change.

Step 1 of the Liberation is successful. Step 2 is to remove the fascists. Step 3 is to dance.

[Genivaria]

Most of the people here now are fascists and libertarians.

This thread is dead now tbh. I can't help but feel partly responsible because I was the first RWDT denizen to start posting here, but I have no idea it would cause such a huge change.

Don't be so hard on yourself. You couldn't have anticipated

Seriously though if I actually had to choose between ideologies in Kaiserreich I'd be an Orthodox Syndicalist.
American style obviously.

[Crysuko]

Don't be so hard on yourself. You couldn't have anticipated

Seriously though if I actually had to choose between ideologies in Kaiserreich I'd be an Orthodox Syndicalist.
American style obviously.

Same, probably. Commune of France is very easy to be a military and industrial powerhouse. By the time the second weltkrieg popped, I have 2 full armies of mixed tanks/mechanised with dedicated medium divisions tooled up and ready to go. I previously got bogged down in Alsace-Lorraine but this time I had them reeling back to Berlin with no hope of counterattack. on normal difficulty, too.