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What is the best libertarian ideology?

Poll ended at Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:00 pm

Classical liberalism
32
48%
Minarchism
6
9%
Anarcho-capitalism
3
5%
Bakunin's anarchism
5
8%
Anarcho-syndicalism
11
17%
Other/Anarcho-statism
9
14%
 
Total votes : 66

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:51 pm

The South Falls wrote:
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The highest is actually 240 for Einstein if you actually bothered reading your own source, and the highest for Jefferson is 190 if, again, you bothered reading your own source.

Who gives a shit? IQ is a test for French kindergartners, not a basis for ideology.


I don't except to refute GM's silly ideas. :^)

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The highest is actually 240 for Einstein if you actually bothered reading your own source, and the highest for Jefferson is 190 if, again, you bothered reading your own source.

Cough http://www.eoht.info/page/American+Presidents+by+IQ


Ehem.
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:52 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Who gives a shit? IQ is a test for French kindergartners, not a basis for ideology.


I don't except to refute GM's silly ideas. :^)



Ehem.

Both of y'alls arguments are stupid. There we go.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:52 pm

Torrocca wrote:I don't except to refute GM's silly ideas. :^)

I wasn't the one who brought up the topic though. You were the one who put Einstein's beliefs in the midst of the conversation because he was smart.

Torrocca wrote:Ehem.

One of the several sources on his desc.
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:53 pm

This is a dick measuring contest for dicks that are not our own. How bout we move back to topic?

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Postby Rostavykhan » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:54 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Who gives a shit? IQ is a test for French kindergartners, not a basis for ideology.


I don't except to refute GM's silly ideas. :^)



"Einsteins IQ is bigger."
"Na-ah, it's Jeffersons, Commie."
"No, look here, it shows Einstein is higher."
"....y-yeah, but who cares? This is dumb anyways!"

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:54 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I don't except to refute GM's silly ideas. :^)



Ehem.

Both of y'alls arguments are stupid. There we go.


Oh no, radical centrism! *dies*

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Torrocca wrote:I don't except to refute GM's silly ideas. :^)

I wasn't the one who brought up the topic though. You were the one who put Einstein's beliefs in the midst of the conversation because he was smart.


Simply to make the point that people tend to adopt leftism the smarter they are.

Torrocca wrote:Ehem.

One of the several sources on his desc.


And one that proves you wrong.

BTW, when am I gonna get a response to this?:

Torrocca wrote:Alright, lemme explain it more coherently:

Quite frankly, if your ideology - rather than offer a network of support, community well-being, and happiness in life to everyone from the healthy, the strong, the intelligent, and the skilled, to the sick, the disenfranchised, the disabled, the elderly, etc. - simply offers empty platitudes that basically boil down to tugging on metaphorical bootstraps, and then says to those who are suffering and couldn't tug on bootstraps for a variety of reasons, OR did tug on those metaphorical bootstraps as hard as they could and still couldn't rise up and be afforded a decent life, "you simply didn't do enough to succeed in the land of opportunities," despite not actually having opportunities for success thanks to an entrenched hierarchy, then your ideology is frankly quite shit.

Not that you'll see it that way, because, "muh private property!" or whatever excuse you come up with defending your ideology, but that's simply how it is. If it refuses to help people, then it's not a worthwhile ideology.


I'd love to hear what a staunch champion of Libertarianism has to say in defense of it. :^)
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:55 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I don't except to refute GM's silly ideas. :^)



"Einsteins IQ is bigger."
"Na-ah, it's Jeffersons, Commie."
"No, look here, it shows Einstein is higher."
"....y-yeah, but who cares? This is dumb anyways!"

It's like the grown-up version of two kids arguing which Ninja Turtle could win in a fight.

I was contesting the very nature of his argument (that was of ranking ideologies by the IQ of their highest endorsers). Recheck the chat log.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:56 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Rostavykhan wrote:
"Einsteins IQ is bigger."
"Na-ah, it's Jeffersons, Commie."
"No, look here, it shows Einstein is higher."
"....y-yeah, but who cares? This is dumb anyways!"

It's like the grown-up version of two kids arguing which Ninja Turtle could win in a fight.

I was contesting the very nature of his argument (that was of ranking ideologies by the IQ of their highest endorsers). Recheck the chat log.


Except I was never ranking ideologies by the IQ of their highest endorsers. I was merely making a wholly correct statement that smarter people tend to be on the left of politics.
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Postby United American Commomwealth » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:57 pm

Torrocca wrote:Quite frankly, if your ideology - rather than offer a network of support, community well-being, and happiness in life to everyone from the healthy, the strong, the intelligent, and the skilled, to the sick, the disenfranchised, the disabled, the elderly, etc. - simply offers empty platitudes that basically boil down to tugging on metaphorical bootstraps, and then says to those who are suffering and couldn't tug on bootstraps for a variety of reasons, OR did tug on those metaphorical bootstraps as hard as they could and still couldn't rise up and be afforded a decent life, "you simply didn't do enough to succeed in the land of opportunities," despite not actually having opportunities for success thanks to an entrenched hierarchy, then your ideology is frankly quite shit.

At least our ideology is based on facts and not feelings :^)
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:58 pm

United American Commomwealth wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Quite frankly, if your ideology - rather than offer a network of support, community well-being, and happiness in life to everyone from the healthy, the strong, the intelligent, and the skilled, to the sick, the disenfranchised, the disabled, the elderly, etc. - simply offers empty platitudes that basically boil down to tugging on metaphorical bootstraps, and then says to those who are suffering and couldn't tug on bootstraps for a variety of reasons, OR did tug on those metaphorical bootstraps as hard as they could and still couldn't rise up and be afforded a decent life, "you simply didn't do enough to succeed in the land of opportunities," despite not actually having opportunities for success thanks to an entrenched hierarchy, then your ideology is frankly quite shit.

At least our ideology is based on facts and not feelings :^)


Not an argument and also not true :^)
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:59 pm

Torrocca wrote:Simply to make the point that people tend to adopt leftism the smarter they are.

Do you have a political compass test aligned with an IQ test sampling at least a statistically reasonable amount of the population (5000+) to prove your point right? Or is this just a circlejerk akin to the "My ancestor :-)" meme?

Torrocca wrote:And one that proves you wrong.

If one sets his top IQ at 190 just so another one does it at 170 and another one at 195 it doesn't mean that they are conflicting. You take the highest of the sampled values and call it the ceiling of the CI.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:02 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:And one that proves you wrong.

If one sets his top IQ at 190 just so another one does it at 170 and another one at 195 it doesn't mean that they are conflicting. You take the highest of the sampled values and call it the ceiling of the CI.


Except you weren't doing that, but regardless, I don't care for this anymore.

I want a response to this:

Torrocca wrote:Alright, lemme explain it more coherently:

Quite frankly, if your ideology - rather than offer a network of support, community well-being, and happiness in life to everyone from the healthy, the strong, the intelligent, and the skilled, to the sick, the disenfranchised, the disabled, the elderly, etc. - simply offers empty platitudes that basically boil down to tugging on metaphorical bootstraps, and then says to those who are suffering and couldn't tug on bootstraps for a variety of reasons, OR did tug on those metaphorical bootstraps as hard as they could and still couldn't rise up and be afforded a decent life, "you simply didn't do enough to succeed in the land of opportunities," despite not actually having opportunities for success thanks to an entrenched hierarchy, then your ideology is frankly quite shit.

Not that you'll see it that way, because, "muh private property!" or whatever excuse you come up with defending your ideology, but that's simply how it is. If it refuses to help people, then it's not a worthwhile ideology.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:06 pm

Torrocca wrote:Alright, lemme explain it more coherently:

Quite frankly, if your ideology - rather than offer a network of support, community well-being, and happiness in life to everyone from the healthy, the strong, the intelligent, and the skilled, to the sick, the disenfranchised, the disabled, the elderly, etc. - simply offers empty platitudes that basically boil down to tugging on metaphorical bootstraps, and then says to those who are suffering and couldn't tug on bootstraps for a variety of reasons, OR did tug on those metaphorical bootstraps as hard as they could and still couldn't rise up and be afforded a decent life, "you simply didn't do enough to succeed in the land of opportunities," despite not actually having opportunities for success thanks to an entrenched hierarchy, then your ideology is frankly quite shit. Not that you'll see it that way, because, "muh private property!" or whatever excuse you come up with defending your ideology, but that's simply how it is. If it refuses to help people, then it's not a worthwhile ideology.

You don't even know my plans on what the government should do/not do to even call me out against equity and social progress.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:08 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Alright, lemme explain it more coherently:

Quite frankly, if your ideology - rather than offer a network of support, community well-being, and happiness in life to everyone from the healthy, the strong, the intelligent, and the skilled, to the sick, the disenfranchised, the disabled, the elderly, etc. - simply offers empty platitudes that basically boil down to tugging on metaphorical bootstraps, and then says to those who are suffering and couldn't tug on bootstraps for a variety of reasons, OR did tug on those metaphorical bootstraps as hard as they could and still couldn't rise up and be afforded a decent life, "you simply didn't do enough to succeed in the land of opportunities," despite not actually having opportunities for success thanks to an entrenched hierarchy, then your ideology is frankly quite shit. Not that you'll see it that way, because, "muh private property!" or whatever excuse you come up with defending your ideology, but that's simply how it is. If it refuses to help people, then it's not a worthwhile ideology.

You don't even know my plans on what the government should do/not do to even call me out against equity and social progress.


Nah, I do. You've made it abundantly clear with multiple posts of yours that basically insinuate people need to tug on bootstraps for success. In fact, one of them was what this was even responding to earlier.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:12 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:You don't even know my plans on what the government should do/not do to even call me out against equity and social progress.


Nah, I do. You've made it abundantly clear with multiple posts of yours that basically insinuate people need to tug on bootstraps for success. In fact, one of them was what this was even responding to earlier.

Did I detail on my intentions for education, healthcare, infrastructure, social policies, government models, welfare et c. or are you just inferring my positions from some posts of mine that didn't even tangentiate the topics I've mentioned above?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:13 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I don't except to refute GM's silly ideas. :^)



"Einsteins IQ is bigger."
"Na-ah, it's Jeffersons, Commie."
"No, look here, it shows Einstein is higher."
"....y-yeah, but who cares? This is dumb anyways!"

It's like the grown-up version of two kids arguing which Ninja Turtle could win in a fight.

Leonardo, duh.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:13 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Nah, I do. You've made it abundantly clear with multiple posts of yours that basically insinuate people need to tug on bootstraps for success. In fact, one of them was what this was even responding to earlier.

Did I detail on my intentions for education, healthcare, infrastructure, social policies, government models, welfare et c. or are you just inferring my positions from some posts of mine that didn't even tangentiate the topics I've mentioned above?


Well how's about you do that then, if you disagree with the insinuation that your ideology isn't about helping people?
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:13 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Rostavykhan wrote:
"Einsteins IQ is bigger."
"Na-ah, it's Jeffersons, Commie."
"No, look here, it shows Einstein is higher."
"....y-yeah, but who cares? This is dumb anyways!"

It's like the grown-up version of two kids arguing which Ninja Turtle could win in a fight.

Leonardo, duh.

What the fuck? Donatello had more versatility!
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:17 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:Did I detail on my intentions for education, healthcare, infrastructure, social policies, government models, welfare et c. or are you just inferring my positions from some posts of mine that didn't even tangentiate the topics I've mentioned above?


Well how's about you do that then, if you disagree with the insinuation that your ideology isn't about helping people?

If my Filteries is worth anything to the discussion...
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:18 pm

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United American Commomwealth wrote:Yes, but really, it doesn't mean anything.

These people are scientists, not economists. Just because I know a lot about dinosaurs doesn't mean my opinion on Newton's laws is instantly validated.


You don't have to be an economist to realize a system that doesn't help people is a shit system :^)

That's like saying you don't need to be a doctor to diagnose or treat illnesses.
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Northern Davincia wrote:Leonardo, duh.

What the fuck? Donatello had more versatility!

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:19 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Well how's about you do that then, if you disagree with the insinuation that your ideology isn't about helping people?

If my Filteries is worth anything to the discussion...
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How's about explaining it in English instead of Graphese?

Northern Davincia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
You don't have to be an economist to realize a system that doesn't help people is a shit system :^)

That's like saying you don't need to be a doctor to diagnose or treat illnesses.


Nah, it's more like saying you don't need to be a doctor to realize you're sick.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:21 pm

Torrocca wrote:How's about explaining it in English instead of Graphese?

It's shown in a pretty succinct way already, I won't spoonfeed you.
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Postby United American Commomwealth » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:25 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:How's about explaining it in English instead of Graphese?

It's shown in a pretty succinct way already, I won't spoonfeed you.

He's a socialist, all he knows is spoonfeeding.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:27 pm

United American Commomwealth wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:It's shown in a pretty succinct way already, I won't spoonfeed you.

He's a socialist, all he knows is spoonfeeding.


wow really owned me there eggz dee xD

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:How's about explaining it in English instead of Graphese?

It's shown in a pretty succinct way already, I won't spoonfeed you.


So basically from what I'm reading it's hardly Libertarianism at all, just another system that seems pretty shit NGL.
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:28 pm

United American Commomwealth wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:It's shown in a pretty succinct way already, I won't spoonfeed you.

He's a socialist, all he knows is spoonfeeding.

And you're a rightist, all you know is mocking socialists for spoonfeeding. Perceived. Not real.
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