Twitch user mocked for avoiding accusations of adultery

[New haven america]

Wow, first post on the thread and you're already playing the victim cards.

Way to fuckin' go.

you're playing the victim

No, I said you were treating someone else as a victim of feminism, when they're not. Because you can't go on any gender/sex related thread without doing so.

Follow along please.

[Costa Fierro]

This is an absurd overreaction to the problem of clickbait.

Why is this an overreaction? If you have a reputation, a marriage, and a substantial income (half a million every month), of course you're going to take steps to ensure that it's protected as much as it can be. It's no different to a corporate CEO refusing to work with female subordinates or other women staff because of the potential for serious accusations to be made against him. Remember, we're in the #MeToo era now.

[Galloism]

This is an absurd overreaction to the problem of clickbait.

Why is this an overreaction? If you have a reputation, a marriage, and a substantial income (half a million every month), of course you're going to take steps to ensure that it's protected as much as it can be. It's no different to a corporate CEO refusing to work with female subordinates or other women staff because of the potential for serious accusations to be made against him. Remember, we're in the #MeToo era now.

Wait, he makes half a million a month playing video games?

I have gone terribly wrong somewhere.

[Costa Fierro]

you're playing the victim

No, I said you were treating someone else as a victim of feminism, when they're not. Because you can't go on any gender/sex related thread without doing so.

Follow along please.

I would, but I'd rather talk with other people who are interested in discussing this properly.

[New haven america]

Why is this an overreaction? If you have a reputation, a marriage, and a substantial income (half a million every month), of course you're going to take steps to ensure that it's protected as much as it can be. It's no different to a corporate CEO refusing to work with female subordinates or other women staff because of the potential for serious accusations to be made against him. Remember, we're in the #MeToo era now.

1. Wait, he makes half a million a month playing video games?

2. I have gone terribly wrong somewhere.

1. Yes, most big gaming YouTubers/Streamers make millions every year
2. Should've gotten on YouTube or Twitch when they were first starting out

[New haven america]

No, I said you were treating someone else as a victim of feminism, when they're not. Because you can't go on any gender/sex related thread without doing so.

Follow along please.

I would, but I'd rather talk with other people who are interested in discussing this properly.

Wait, you really think someone here's going to take you seriously?

[Fartsniffage]

Why is this an overreaction? If you have a reputation, a marriage, and a substantial income (half a million every month), of course you're going to take steps to ensure that it's protected as much as it can be. It's no different to a corporate CEO refusing to work with female subordinates or other women staff because of the potential for serious accusations to be made against him. Remember, we're in the #MeToo era now.

Wait, he makes half a million a month playing video games?

I have gone terribly wrong somewhere.

You didn't dye your hair bright red.

[Galloism]

Wait, he makes half a million a month playing video games?

I have gone terribly wrong somewhere.

You didn't dye your hair bright red.

For half a million a month I’d dress like Big Red, fake boobs and everything.

[Costa Fierro]

Wait, he makes half a million a month playing video games?

I misred the Wikipedia article. It's over half a million.

[Bombadil]

It's.. sad he gave such a reason..
It's.. sad that some people think playing against a female has to mean more than that by default
It's.. sad that it's even a thing
It's.. sad it's become a news item.

Given his position I'd prefer he played whoever he liked and said 'fuck you' to anyone less interested in two people playing a game than whether they're in a relationship.

It's like the school playground never leaves some people.

[New haven america]

This is an absurd overreaction to the problem of clickbait.

It's no different to a corporate CEO refusing to work with female subordinates or other women staff because of the potential for serious accusations to be made against him.

That's called discrimination, young Costa.

And that can get you into trouble as well.

[Galloism]

Wait, he makes half a million a month playing video games?

I misred the Wikipedia article. It's over half a million.

Holy crap.

Well I can see why he’d want to protect himself from danger, although I would still argue this isn’t the best way, just as I didn’t think it was the best way when this happened.

Consistency is important.

[Costa Fierro]

Holy crap.

Well I can see why he’d want to protect himself from danger, although I would still argue this isn’t the best way, just as I didn’t think it was the best way when this happened.

Consistency is important.

It is important, but I view this as the most logical way to go about this. Similar things are being done in the corporate sphere.

Wait, you really think someone here's going to take you seriously?

People usually do.

[New haven america]

Holy crap.

Well I can see why he’d want to protect himself from danger, although I would still argue this isn’t the best way, just as I didn’t think it was the best way when this happened.

Consistency is important.

It is important, but I view this as the most logical way to go about this. Similar things are being done in the corporate sphere.

Wait, you really think someone here's going to take you seriously?

1.People usually do.

1.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It is important, but I view this as the most logical way to go about this. Similar things are being done in the corporate sphere.



1.People usually do.

1.

We do though. His views might not be orthodox or popular but afaik everyone takes him seriously.

[Pope Joan]

online adultery is real and can be really hurtful

I have seen it happen here on this site.

One player ended up getting an IP ban, although this was not his only offense

[Western-Ukraine]

It's his choice who to play with, and if he's getting married, it's all the better that he takes caution with other women. Nothing about discrimination at all. Humans are all too fickle under pressure.

[Costa Fierro]

It's his choice who to play with, and if he's getting married, it's all the better that he takes caution with other women. Nothing about discrimination at all. Humans are all too fickle under pressure.

He's already married.

[Western-Ukraine]

It's his choice who to play with, and if he's getting married, it's all the better that he takes caution with other women. Nothing about discrimination at all. Humans are all too fickle under pressure.

He's already married.

My point is still exactly the same.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

Last year, I brought you a thread about Mike Pence avoiding temptation for adultery. This thread is similar but distinct, as it is about a guy who doesn't claim he's particularly tempted to commit adultery... but that others will think he is.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/13/17684 ... e-valkyrae

Ninja, aka Tyler Blevins, Twitch’s biggest streamer, told Polygon last week that he doesn’t play with female gamers. The decision, he explained, is rooted in internet culture rather than discriminatory intent — Blevins said he believes that that any possible hint of flirting during a stream will immediately be “clickbait forever.” In his words, “The only way to avoid that [gossip] is to not play with [women] at all.”

Blevins’ comments, seen as a product of internet culture by some and sexist by others, sparked discourse among fans, Twitch streamers and YouTube personalities who each shared their own thoughts on the matter.

Imane “Pokimane” Anys said during a stream last Saturday, “It sucks that things like [Blevins’ decision] have to be made into a big deal when I don’t think they have to be.” Anys is no stranger to Twitch popularity and scrutiny — after she began to stream Fortnite with pro player Ali “Myth” Kabbani, the pair have been dogged by dating rumors. Furthermore, she argued that Blevins’ claims that he hasn’t received criticism from female streamers were due to the fact that he hadn’t publicly spoken about his decision before, rather than a lack of objection.

Reaction quickly spread across Twitter, some agreeing with Blevins’ statement, others firmly against it, and yet others running the whole gamut of thoughts and feelings.

So much for the notion that being married is virtuous. Can't be an adulterer if you're single!

On the one hand, I think people underestimate how serious an accusation some guys consider adultery to be. This might this be a competitive disadvantage to married individuals; especially the ones who take their marital vows the most seriously; partaking in Twitch. People can point to Bill Clinton and Donald Trump getting away with it, but Tiger Woods got in much more trouble over it, so it's probably only out of blind partisanship that the former did.

That said, the risk of being put into dire poverty by child support bills has not restrained the male sex drive, so I can't blame anyone for assuming by default that marital fidelity wouldn't be adequate to do so either. For the same reason, I'd consider Riley J. Dennis' comparison to gay sex rumours a false equivalence. We know most people are straight. "X random individual is straight" is a perfectly reasonable default assumption. Adam Koebel complained about bisexuals being perceived as "fuck-crazed maniacs," as if the people characterizing them as that ever said there was anyone who WASN'T a fuck-crazed maniac.

This is more of a symptom of a larger problem: the stereotype that all female gamers are "Twitch thots". If I were Ninja, I'd actually work to challenge this blatantly sexist stereotype rather than just avoid playing with female gamers and comply with the stereotype.

[Ifreann]

All this sounds like to me is "I don't know how to talk to women as people instead of objects of desire, so I'm just not going to speak to them at all."

Of course it would. He's also married too, having the ball and chain fitted tying the knot in August last year.

Nice use of shaming language, by the way. Making assumptions about him without actually knowing the facts. Ironic, really, as this is exactly what he is talking about and what he wants to avoid.

Did two different people write these sentence separately or something?

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I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

It's a growing phenomenon in the corporate sphere.

I look forward to the resulting lawsuits.

[Vassenor]

Last year, I brought you a thread about Mike Pence avoiding temptation for adultery. This thread is similar but distinct, as it is about a guy who doesn't claim he's particularly tempted to commit adultery... but that others will think he is.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/13/17684 ... e-valkyrae


So much for the notion that being married is virtuous. Can't be an adulterer if you're single!

On the one hand, I think people underestimate how serious an accusation some guys consider adultery to be. This might this be a competitive disadvantage to married individuals; especially the ones who take their marital vows the most seriously; partaking in Twitch. People can point to Bill Clinton and Donald Trump getting away with it, but Tiger Woods got in much more trouble over it, so it's probably only out of blind partisanship that the former did.

That said, the risk of being put into dire poverty by child support bills has not restrained the male sex drive, so I can't blame anyone for assuming by default that marital fidelity wouldn't be adequate to do so either. For the same reason, I'd consider Riley J. Dennis' comparison to gay sex rumours a false equivalence. We know most people are straight. "X random individual is straight" is a perfectly reasonable default assumption. Adam Koebel complained about bisexuals being perceived as "fuck-crazed maniacs," as if the people characterizing them as that ever said there was anyone who WASN'T a fuck-crazed maniac.

This is more of a symptom of a larger problem: the stereotype that all female gamers are "Twitch thots". If I were Ninja, I'd actually work to challenge this blatantly sexist stereotype rather than just avoid playing with female gamers and comply with the stereotype.

Like that story about the streamer who got abuse from one of her channel mods because she turned him down for the very respectable reason of her being, you know, married?

[Dumb Ideologies]

People in online communities do often spread gossip and salacious rumour. No-one is obliged to perform advocacy or attitude-changing labour for other people at the expense of risking potential damage and tension to their own relationships. Those angry at his stance would be better advised trying to root out this sort of behaviour in their communities rather than demanding that he do work for them for free or face snarly accusations about his values if he refuses.

[Purpelia]

Honestly I newer understood this sick morbid fascination people have with the sex life of others. Both with peering into it and showing it off. I just don't get it.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

This is more of a symptom of a larger problem: the stereotype that all female gamers are "Twitch thots". If I were Ninja, I'd actually work to challenge this blatantly sexist stereotype rather than just avoid playing with female gamers and comply with the stereotype.

Like that story about the streamer who got abuse from one of her channel mods because she turned him down for the very respectable reason of her being, you know, married?

That's just the mod being a dick. The stereotype is that all female Twitch streamers are highly promiscuous and using their sexual identity to get more views and money. If attitudes towards playing with female gamers are relaxed, it would make it clear that if you're playing with a female gamer you're not necessarily dating them and break the stereotype