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Postby Kramanica » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:33 pm

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Kramanica wrote:Yeah, we're all gonna rise up so women can freely kill their babies without inhibition.

No thanks.

Unless they use guns to do it, in which case it's an inalienable human right.

Wow. So, let me get this straight. You're saying that Republicans believe shooting people is a human right?

Gauth, sweetie, that is the worst strawman I have ever seen you create in my entire time on this site. And I've seen you build thousands of strawmen. That was just... terrible. You should feel ashamed.

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Postby Valgora » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:33 pm

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Triassica wrote:I agree with Tobleste. And I hope everyone ignores and rebels against states that ban abortion after Roe is overturned. Have stand off with cops and prosecutors at abortion clinics, put the black market for Abortion pills into overdrive and have futher more stand off with cops over it. Throw the country into chaos and anarchy till the absolute right to abortion is restored.

Yeah, we're all gonna rise up so women can freely kill their babies without inhibition.

No thanks.


Women can't kill their babies. That would be a crime.
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Postby Kramanica » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:34 pm

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Kramanica wrote:Yeah, we're all gonna rise up so women can freely kill their babies without inhibition.

No thanks.


Women can't kill their babies. That would be a crime.

One would think.
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Postby Frievolk » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:35 pm

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Triassica wrote:I agree with Tobleste. And I hope everyone ignores and rebels against states that ban abortion after Roe is overturned. Have stand off with cops and prosecutors at abortion clinics, put the black market for Abortion pills into overdrive and have futher more stand off with cops over it. Throw the country into chaos and anarchy till the absolute right to abortion is restored.

Yeah, we're all gonna rise up so women can freely kill their babies without inhibition.

No thanks.

we've been over this before, in multiple threads, and this is not related to the topic of the thread, i.e. Trump. Babies are people. Fetuses (Feti?) are not.
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Postby Valgora » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:35 pm

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Women can't kill their babies. That would be a crime.

One would think.

No. I'm pretty sure it is a crime to kill a baby.
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Postby Kramanica » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:36 pm

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Kramanica wrote:Yeah, we're all gonna rise up so women can freely kill their babies without inhibition.

No thanks.

we've been over this before, in multiple threads, and this is not related to the topic of the thread, i.e. Trump. Babies are people. Fetuses (Feti?) are not.

Legally, no. But the legal system is just absolutely disgusting.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:39 pm

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Frievolk wrote:we've been over this before, in multiple threads, and this is not related to the topic of the thread, i.e. Trump. Babies are people. Fetuses (Feti?) are not.

Legally, no. But the legal system is just absolutely disgusting.

The legal system is what’s keeping us from murdering and looting our neighbors. Is it perfect? No. Far from it. But we need some form of law.
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Postby Mushet » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:49 pm

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This mindset comes with the assumption that you're smarter and more qualified than the bulk of people in the nation and a high degree of elitism and disdain for ignorant people.

What the actual fuck.


A pretty high number of American adults can't even read or can only read at basic levels. Pretty much everyone on this forum is inherently smarter than them due to the text based format.

Literacy isn't the only gauge of intelligence, good chance that many of these people are more competent at something practical that you are. Such arrogance is unbecoming.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:52 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Legally, no. But the legal system is just absolutely disgusting.

The legal system is what’s keeping us from murdering and looting our neighbors. Is it perfect? No. Far from it. But we need some form of law.


Common decency and not being an ass is what keeps us from murdering and looting our neighborhoods.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:30 pm

Wages drop despite economic boom

Wages in the U.S. fell over the past year despite an ongoing economic boom, according to data released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics on Friday.

In the past 12 months through July, real average hourly earnings dropped 0.4 percent. That figure takes into account seasonal differences, as well as the effects of rising prices.

An increase in the length of the average workweek was not enough to compensate for the fall, leaving average weekly earnings down 0.1 percent in the same period.

Over the past month alone, real hourly wages were flat, while real weekly earnings dropped 0.2 percent.
The sluggish advance in wages comes amid an economy that, by other measures, is booming.

The economy grew at an annualized rate of 4.2 percent in the second quarter, and unemployment dipped below 4 percent in July.

The dynamic could prove troublesome for Republicans hoping that a thriving economy will boost them in November's midterm elections.


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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:36 pm

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Northern Davincia wrote:Just don't expect us to put our faith in the ignorant, teeming masses.

Why should the masses put their faith in you?
By majority alone, you're the one who has to shut up and take it lol.

I wouldn't ask anyone to put their faith in government. However, I must inquire if a lynch mob is justified on account of outnumbering their victims.
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Postby Harmonian Hegemony » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:38 pm

Valgora wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Yeah, we're all gonna rise up so women can freely kill their babies without inhibition.

No thanks.


Women can't kill their babies. That would be a crime.

Kram is one of those people who have deluded themselves into thinking cell clumps are people.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:The legal system is what’s keeping us from murdering and looting our neighbors. Is it perfect? No. Far from it. But we need some form of law.


Common decency and not being an ass is what keeps us from murdering and looting our neighborhoods.


It's also probably the innate human desire to socialize and belong to a group of others, killing people kind of makes it hard for that to happen.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:41 pm

Harmonian Hegemony wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Women can't kill their babies. That would be a crime.

Kram is one of those people who have deluded themselves into thinking cell clumps are people.


Cell clumps are people. He just disagrees with the majority over how big the clump has to be.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:42 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Frievolk wrote:we've been over this before, in multiple threads, and this is not related to the topic of the thread, i.e. Trump. Babies are people. Fetuses (Feti?) are not.

Legally, no. But the legal system is just absolutely disgusting.

That's bc it's by, for and of the people to deal with the gamut of human weaknesses. What could go wrong?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:45 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Just don't expect us to put our faith in the ignorant, teeming masses.


This mindset comes with the assumption that you're smarter and more qualified than the bulk of people in the nation and a high degree of elitism and disdain for ignorant people.

What the actual fuck.

In an age of mass information, there is no excuse for ignorance. I don't claim to be smarter, but I do claim to be distrusting of the average fellow when granted power.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:48 pm

Harmonian Hegemony wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Women can't kill their babies. That would be a crime.

Kram is one of those people who have deluded themselves into thinking cell clumps are people.

Henrietta Lacks' cell clumps have cancer and have been living and reproducing in vitro for like 60 years and nope, they are not people. Sorry Kram.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:52 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Harmonian Hegemony wrote:Kram is one of those people who have deluded themselves into thinking cell clumps are people.

Henrietta Lacks' cell clumps have cancer and have been living and reproducing in vitro for like 60 years and nope, they are not people. Sorry Kram.

Besides, once they develop and get squirted out he probably considers them welfare leeching parasites that are on their own.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:52 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Henrietta Lacks' cell clumps have cancer and have been living and reproducing in vitro for like 60 years and nope, they are not people. Sorry Kram.

Besides, once they develop and get squirted out he probably considers them welfare leeching parasites that are on their own.

You might want to wait until Kram offers his own opinion on that.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:55 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
This mindset comes with the assumption that you're smarter and more qualified than the bulk of people in the nation and a high degree of elitism and disdain for ignorant people.

What the actual fuck.

In an age of mass information, there is no excuse for ignorance. I don't claim to be smarter, but I do claim to be distrusting of the average fellow when granted power.


Not everyone has access to the Internet, of course.

And not knowing geography or basic things like chocolate milk doesn't come from a brown cow aren't indicative of lower IQs necessarily, just people who haven't bothered looking that stuff up because it isn't important to the daily lives of the vast majority of people. Funny as it may be.
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Postby Tobleste » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:58 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Triassica wrote:I agree with Tobleste. And I hope everyone ignores and rebels against states that ban abortion after Roe is overturned. Have stand off with cops and prosecutors at abortion clinics, put the black market for Abortion pills into overdrive and have futher more stand off with cops over it. Throw the country into chaos and anarchy till the absolute right to abortion is restored.

You know, most people have more important goals than abortion, an issue of which I am moderate on, but if you truly think this is the most important use of time and resources.


Check the gun control thread and see how moderate people are on that and that's an issue that is nowhere near as important as gun control.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:00 pm

Tobleste wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:You know, most people have more important goals than abortion, an issue of which I am moderate on, but if you truly think this is the most important use of time and resources.


Check the gun control thread and see how moderate people are on that and that's an issue that is nowhere near as important as gun control.


Tbqh people only really started to become single issues voters against any and all gun control after the Dems kept the slippery slope going and coming back for more, even with things that objectively weren't problems and didn't need banned.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:01 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:In an age of mass information, there is no excuse for ignorance. I don't claim to be smarter, but I do claim to be distrusting of the average fellow when granted power.


Not everyone has access to the Internet, of course.

And not knowing geography or basic things like chocolate milk doesn't come from a brown cow aren't indicative of lower IQs necessarily, just people who haven't bothered looking that stuff up because it isn't important to the daily lives of the vast majority of people. Funny as it may be.

Do you think it sets a good precedent for their knowledge of government?
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:02 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Not everyone has access to the Internet, of course.

And not knowing geography or basic things like chocolate milk doesn't come from a brown cow aren't indicative of lower IQs necessarily, just people who haven't bothered looking that stuff up because it isn't important to the daily lives of the vast majority of people. Funny as it may be.

Do you think it sets a good precedent for their knowledge of government?


What's more important to have a grasp on? Which countries are in Africa or who the current president is? That Americans don't know basic facts is irrelevant to their possible understanding of civics.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:04 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Do you think it sets a good precedent for their knowledge of government?


What's more important to have a grasp on? Which countries are in Africa or who the current president is? That Americans don't know basic facts is irrelevant to their possible understanding of civics.


Less than 40% of Americans can name all 3 branches of government lol
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