NRA Might Be Going Bust

[Thermodolia]

I'd guess it's a legal manoeuvre and/or fundraiser.. someone or other will bail them out - it's Trump tweet fodder. Anyway there's others, the one WRA likes because the NRA is just too liberal.

Though if NRA TV was shuttered that would be great thanks.

The GOA. Gun Owners of America. 100x better than the NRA

[Crockerland]

I'd guess it's a legal manoeuvre and/or fundraiser.. someone or other will bail them out - it's Trump tweet fodder. Anyway there's others, the one WRA likes because the NRA is just too liberal.

Though if NRA TV was shuttered that would be great thanks.

The GOA. Gun Owners of America. 100x better than the NRA

Better in spirit perhaps, but given the NRA's superior membership/funding I imagine they have a better track record and have gotten a lot more done for the second amendment overall than the GOA.

[Thermodolia]

...and?

He's the new NRA President, not Trump.

Who gives a shit. Ollie North did nothing wrong

[Uxupox]

The GOA. Gun Owners of America. 100x better than the NRA

Better in spirit perhaps, but given the NRA's superior membership/funding I imagine they have a better track record and have gotten a lot more done for the second amendment overall than the GOA.

The GOA is a lot better in terms of focusing the issue itself but the NRA itself has much, much bigger pull and influence.

[Vassenor]

NRA compromised on gun control (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nra-bump-stocks-20171006-story.html), they're enemies to everyone who supports the right to bare arms.

How does not being own a bump stock stop you baring arms?

[Uxupox]

NRA compromised on gun control (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nra-bump-stocks-20171006-story.html), they're enemies to everyone who supports the right to bare arms.

How does not being own a bump stock stop you baring arms?

the thing is why the hell are they even thinking of banning bump stocks. it does absolutely nothing other than give a comfortable edge on the weapon.

[Petrasylvania]

How does not being own a bump stock stop you baring arms?

the thing is why the hell are they even thinking of banning bump stocks. it does absolutely nothing other than give a comfortable edge on the weapon.

Yes, human beings can achieve high rates of fire entirely on their own with just the trigger finger at a continuous rate.

[Thermodolia]

the thing is why the hell are they even thinking of banning bump stocks. it does absolutely nothing other than give a comfortable edge on the weapon.

Yes, human beings can achieve high rates of fire entirely on their own with just the trigger finger at a continuous rate.

I can. It’s called trigger pull. You pull that thing pretty quickly and boom auto.

[Uxupox]

the thing is why the hell are they even thinking of banning bump stocks. it does absolutely nothing other than give a comfortable edge on the weapon.

Yes, human beings can achieve high rates of fire entirely on their own with just the trigger finger at a continuous rate.

you can literally use a fucking hair pin to make a semi-automatic go full automatic. what's next? Banning hair pins?

[Crockerland]

the thing is why the hell are they even thinking of banning bump stocks. it does absolutely nothing other than give a comfortable edge on the weapon.

Yes, human beings can achieve high rates of fire entirely on their own with just the trigger finger at a continuous rate.

I can't tell if you're moderate on this one issue or are trying to be sarcastic and legitimately don't understand that what you're saying is true.

[Ifreann]

How does advising businesses not to associate with the NRA deprive the NRA of their access to the public forum?

By being calculated to hinder a nonprofit advocacy group. The government can't advise all banks stop working with Planned Parenthood without implicating the Equal Protection clause as it applies to constitutional rights.

Is advising businesses about protecting their public image and encouraging them not to support looser gun laws not a legitimate concern of a state government?

Uh, there has been a trend of companies cutting ties with the NRA this year.

Not to this extent.

No? It was my understanding that a rake companies were cutting ties with the NRA across the US.

Your news is fake and you should feel fake.

Its an accurate description of the legal facts. The morality is up for debate, of course.

The version of events asserted by the defence in a trial is not necessarily factual, even if accepted by the jury.

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"No Iffy, courts are infallible"

I think not, citizen.

Actual forensic scientist: Zimmerman's story is consistent with the evidence

consistent with evidence =/= objective fact, beyond any doubt

Certified Genius from watching so much Rick and Morty: CNN told me Zimmerman is bad so he is

I feel bad now, I was really late to Rick And Morty, so all the genius certificates were gone.

Hmm who will I believe?? It is a tough choice... :thinking:

The killer said that the dead guy started it, and got up in court and told a story about how the dead guy started it, so there can be no question that the killer is right and honest and his version of events is OBJECTIVE FACT.

I mean, Zimmerman was beaten and bloody and the only wounds on Trayvon Martin's body other than the gunshot were knuckle abrasions from brutally beating Zimmerman... But maybe Zimmerman used an ESP attack! O-: I will have to tweet this to JK Rowling or Hillary Clinton maybe they will know.

The guy who was unarmed used his fists and the guy who was armed used his gun, so it is BEYOND ANY DOUBT that the unarmed guy started it.

[Telconi]

By being calculated to hinder a nonprofit advocacy group. The government can't advise all banks stop working with Planned Parenthood without implicating the Equal Protection clause as it applies to constitutional rights.

Is advising businesses about protecting their public image and encouraging them not to support looser gun laws not a legitimate concern of a state government?

Not to this extent.

No? It was my understanding that a rake companies were cutting ties with the NRA across the US.

Its an accurate description of the legal facts. The morality is up for debate, of course.

The version of events asserted by the defence in a trial is not necessarily factual, even if accepted by the jury.

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Actual forensic scientist: Zimmerman's story is consistent with the evidence

consistent with evidence =/= objective fact, beyond any doubt

Certified Genius from watching so much Rick and Morty: CNN told me Zimmerman is bad so he is

I feel bad now, I was really late to Rick And Morty, so all the genius certificates were gone.

Hmm who will I believe?? It is a tough choice... :thinking:

The killer said that the dead guy started it, and got up in court and told a story about how the dead guy started it, so there can be no question that the killer is right and honest and his version of events is OBJECTIVE FACT.

I mean, Zimmerman was beaten and bloody and the only wounds on Trayvon Martin's body other than the gunshot were knuckle abrasions from brutally beating Zimmerman... But maybe Zimmerman used an ESP attack! O-: I will have to tweet this to JK Rowling or Hillary Clinton maybe they will know.

The guy who was unarmed used his fists and the guy who was armed used his gun, so it is BEYOND ANY DOUBT that the unarmed guy started it.

I doubt we'll ever know exactly what happened, but that case was decided, by a jury of Zimmerman's peers years ago.

[Xadufell]

Good riddance this organization is going, going, gone.

They've had a stranglehold on politicians for far too long. How else have common sense gun regulations not been passed yet?

And, why have there been shootings in the news almost daily?

Because the NRA wants to remove ALL restrictions. No restrictions = more problems for society.

Let's see here... "Stranglehold on politicians," lol. "Common Sense gun regulations," lol. "Shootings in the news almost daily," lol. "NRA wants to remove ALL restrictions," lol.

A lot of words with no merit and no proof, not to mention all of the various anti-gun buzzwords and other nonsense.

[Greed and Death]

Well I will have to redirect money that was going to help hungry children to the NRA now.

[Ors Might]

Shoot, they’re going for a removal of all infringements?

The NRA is better than I thought.

Thus fostering a Wild West mentality where everyone has to carry a gun lest they be shot dead with impugnity.

I forgot that all people are just a step a way from killing everyone around them. Give someone a knife and they’re bound to stab someone, yeah?

[Telconi]

Thus fostering a Wild West mentality where everyone has to carry a gun lest they be shot dead with impugnity.

I forgot that all people are just a step a way from killing everyone around them. Give someone a knife and they’re bound to stab someone, yeah?

Projection is a helluva drug.

[Crockerland]

Shoot, they’re going for a removal of all infringements?

The NRA is better than I thought.

Thus fostering a Wild West mentality where everyone has to carry a gun lest they be shot dead with impugnity.

13 powerful quotes that will make you say "fuck having rights and shit, take my liberty please."

[Ifreann]

Well I will have to redirect money that was going to help hungry children to the NRA now.

Taking college freshers out for dinner doesn't count as helping hungry children.

[Telconi]

Well I will have to redirect money that was going to help hungry children to the NRA now.

Taking college freshers out for dinner doesn't count as helping hungry children.

It does if they're hungry, and children.

[Uxupox]

Well I will have to redirect money that was going to help hungry children to the NRA now.

Taking college freshers out for dinner doesn't count as helping hungry children.

we are all children in our parents eyes.

[Ors Might]

I forgot that all people are just a step a way from killing everyone around them. Give someone a knife and they’re bound to stab someone, yeah?

Projection is a helluva drug.

You know whats funny? If we say that we need guns in case of government tyranny, we’re paranoid and delusional. But if they imply that people only need access to guns in order to become mass murderers, they’re “reasonable” and “think about the children!!”

[Petrasylvania]

Thus fostering a Wild West mentality where everyone has to carry a gun lest they be shot dead with impugnity.

13 powerful quotes that will make you say "fuck having rights and shit, take my liberty please."

"Liberty" that only white people are allowed, as Philando Castile found out the hard way.

[Telconi]

Projection is a helluva drug.

You know whats funny? If we say that we need guns in case of government tyranny, we’re paranoid and delusional. But if they imply that people only need access to guns in order to become mass murderers, they’re “reasonable” and “think about the children!!”

Yeah, tbh I'd rather most gun grabbers not have guns, if you think that lack of a gun is the only reason why the general populace doesn't murder rape and pillage, that says a lot more about you...

[Ors Might]

13 powerful quotes that will make you say "fuck having rights and shit, take my liberty please."

"Liberty" that only white people are allowed, as Philando Castile found out the hard way.

So the answer to oppression is more oppression?

[Tobleste]

NRA Claims 'Deep Financial Trouble' May Soon Put It Out of Business

The National Rifle Association says that it’s in “deep financial trouble” — so deep in fact that it may be “unable to exist.”

The group says it is under such financial distress because New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has convinced a number of financial service providers, banks, and insurance providers against doing business with the gun-advocacy group. As a result, the NRA claims that it will be forced to end its magazine publishing and television services, and will be forced to curtail rallies and potentially shutter some of its offices.

In April, Gov. Cuomo encouraged New York-based businesses to cut ties with the NRA. “New York may have the strongest gun laws in the country, but we must push further to ensure that gun safety is a top priority for every individual, company, and organization that does business across the state,” he said in a statement. “I am directing the Department of Financial Services to urge insurers and bankers statewide to determine whether any relationship they may have with the NRA or similar organizations sends the wrong message to their clients and their communities who often look to them for guidance and support. This is not just a matter of reputation, it is a matter of public safety, and working together, we can put an end to gun violence in New York once and for all.”

In response, the NRA sued, claiming that the governor was attempting to deny the group the ability to speak freely about gun-related issues. This week, it filed an additional claim, obtained by Rolling Stone, suggesting that the move has impacted its cash flow to the point that it may soon be forced out of existence.

Some optimistic news for once. They helped clamped down on even the smallest regulations when they weren't scared of minorities arming up and then we learned they served as a Russian campaign finance pipeline. Not to mention making a convicted criminal their new President.

Good riddance.

What impact will this have on the gun debate? I think it will make it possible for reasonable measures to be passed if the NRA does go belly up.

I hope so. Some good news regarding guns for once.

I imagine this is just some fundraising tactic to scare gun nuts into forking over more money but if it isn't, I think gun control-advocating groups could try and push as many court cases as possible to stretch them to breaking point.