by Internationalist Bastard » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:35 am
by Tinhampton » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:39 am
by Internationalist Bastard » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:45 am
Tinhampton wrote:Well, for starters, both Maggie and Ghandi held onto power through democratic means... and, of course, both were frowned upon by their political opponents (Labour or the modern-day BJP, respectively). Remember, this is the internet we're talking about - everybody has an opinion and a few manage to find their way onto the first page of your Google results.
On actual female dictators, I would argue that the only ones that existed were the ones that significantly influenced their actual dictator husbands.
by Angleter » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:59 am
by Old Tyrannia » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:02 am
by Shackley » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:02 am
Angleter wrote:Most female monarchs in history would count as 'dictators' in some sense of the word, and certainly plenty of them were tyrants - for one example, see either Mary I or Elizabeth I of England, depending on whether you're Protestant or Catholic.
The first ever non-royal female head of state was a Communist dictator in Tannu Tuva, Khertek Anchimaa.
Sheikh Hasina in Bangladesh doesn't exactly have the greatest human rights record.
Overall, the issue is that most dictatorships aren't exactly the most feminist of societies, and therefore don't have many women in positions from which they could become a dictator. Also, many dictatorships originate in military coups, and almost all armed forces around the world are overwhelmingly male.
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by Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:04 am
by Hammer Britannia » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:07 am
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:10 am
by The Opossum » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:12 am
Internationalist Bastard wrote:And with that I’d say we’re set, so NSG, we’re there any female dictators?
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by A m e n r i a » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:13 am
by Hammer Britannia » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:15 am
A m e n r i a wrote:Do Wu Zetian and Elizabeth Bathory count as female "dictators"? The whole point of dictatorship is benevolence, and these people are certainly not benevolent, but I wanna know what you guys think.
by Bears Armed » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:16 am
by Avidius Legion » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:16 am
Shackley wrote:Angleter wrote:Most female monarchs in history would count as 'dictators' in some sense of the word, and certainly plenty of them were tyrants - for one example, see either Mary I or Elizabeth I of England, depending on whether you're Protestant or Catholic.
The first ever non-royal female head of state was a Communist dictator in Tannu Tuva, Khertek Anchimaa.
Sheikh Hasina in Bangladesh doesn't exactly have the greatest human rights record.
Overall, the issue is that most dictatorships aren't exactly the most feminist of societies, and therefore don't have many women in positions from which they could become a dictator. Also, many dictatorships originate in military coups, and almost all armed forces around the world are overwhelmingly male.
Liz I established the British Empire, I'd hardly call her a tyrant. She's had an aircraft carrier named after her so she must be worthy of respect to some degree.
As far as Tudors go she could've been much worse.
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by Internationalist Bastard » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:16 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:There are certainly female monarchs and absolutists throughout history, but very few or even no dictators in the modern sense, in large part due to most dictators ruling through military position.
by Kavagrad » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:18 am
Avidius Legion wrote:Shackley wrote:
Liz I established the British Empire, I'd hardly call her a tyrant. She's had an aircraft carrier named after her so she must be worthy of respect to some degree.
As far as Tudors go she could've been much worse.
Well respect does not really equally means "not stomping opposition with her iron fist"
by Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:18 am
A m e n r i a wrote:Do Wu Zetian and Elizabeth Bathory count as female "dictators"? The whole point of dictatorship is benevolence, and these people are certainly not benevolent, but I wanna know what you guys think.
by New Wrepland » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:20 am
by Xiaodong » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:20 am
Shackley wrote:Liz I established the British Empire, I'd hardly call her a tyrant. She's had an aircraft carrier named after her so she must be worthy of respect to some degree.
As far as Tudors go she could've been much worse.
by Democratic Empire of Romania » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:21 am
by Hammer Britannia » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:22 am
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:A m e n r i a wrote:Do Wu Zetian and Elizabeth Bathory count as female "dictators"? The whole point of dictatorship is benevolence, and these people are certainly not benevolent, but I wanna know what you guys think.
The point of dictatorship is not by any means benevolent. In fact, typically the worse a dictator oppresses their people, the less likely they are to overthrow them (starving slum dwellers are far less effective revolutionaries than middle-class citizens). Please may you list one benevolent dictator in power today?
by Avidius Legion » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:24 am
Kavagrad wrote:Avidius Legion wrote:Well respect does not really equally means "not stomping opposition with her iron fist"
Ask the Oxfordshire "rebels" if Liz was a tyrant, that's all I'm saying.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxfordshire_rising_of_1596
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"... what is Japan if not merely the Italy of the East?"
by Avidius Legion » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:26 am
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:A m e n r i a wrote:Do Wu Zetian and Elizabeth Bathory count as female "dictators"? The whole point of dictatorship is benevolence, and these people are certainly not benevolent, but I wanna know what you guys think.
The point of dictatorship is not by any means benevolent. In fact, typically the worse a dictator oppresses their people, the less likely they are to overthrow them (starving slum dwellers are far less effective revolutionaries than middle-class citizens). Please may you list one benevolent dictator in power today?
If theres anyone scummier than the Germans, it's the English. Not only they are Anglos, but Saxons as well! Double the Germanic-ness, double the perfidity
"... what is Japan if not merely the Italy of the East?"
by Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:26 am
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