Well, I suppose it is arguable that Puritans supported the rise of capitalism. And I certainly do not agree with the horrible things some Puritans did during the English Civil War. But the Jacobins certainly were not Christians.
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by Bienenhalde » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:44 pm
by Questers » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:44 pm
The right wanted to preserve the monarchy as long as it did what the assembly wanted. That's jsut a less extreme version of the left - get rid ofthe monarchy.Kowani wrote:Well the terms may date from the French Revolution, the ideas themselves are much older. (Side note, you’re wrong, the Right in the FR wanted to preserve the monarchy)
“Society without order.” You...you need to read more. Preferably about the aims of the left. Since you know, they’re not homogeneous.
by Kowani » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:45 pm
Questers wrote:"! think men and women are equal, and I hate discrimination - I can't see how this makes me a feminist!"
by Conserative Morality » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:45 pm
Questers wrote:I have read a lot more than you on a lot more topics. This is likely why you are losing this debate.“Society without order.” You...you need to read more. Preferably about the aims of the left. Since you know, they’re not homogeneous.
by Kowani » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:46 pm
Questers wrote:The right wanted to preserve the monarchy as long as it did what the assembly wanted. That's jsut a less extreme version of the left - get rid ofthe monarchy.Kowani wrote:Well the terms may date from the French Revolution, the ideas themselves are much older. (Side note, you’re wrong, the Right in the FR wanted to preserve the monarchy)
“Society without order.” You...you need to read more. Preferably about the aims of the left. Since you know, they’re not homogeneous.
I have read a lot more than you on a lot more topics. This is likely why you are losing this debate.
by Farnhamia » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:47 pm
Questers wrote:Spend extended periods of time with a lot of women and erase feminism from your brain and you can see it for yourself too.Kowani wrote:
...Do you have any actual sources to back this assertion up? (Besides the “Hormonal” argument, because men have a crapton of hormones as well.)
But, you don't seem smart enough to realise the difference between an empiric assertion and a description. So if you can't do the latter, I doubt you can do the former.
by The Liberated Territories » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:54 pm
Minzerland II wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:Roman law before Christianity: "If you're raped, you're blameless, man or woman."
Roman law after Christianity: "If you're raped you're complicit in the crime, looks like you're getting hanged. =^)"
The primary problem with Rome is that it didn't persecute the Christians nearly hard enough.
Why do you hold Ancient Rome on such a pedestal? You complain about hypocrisy, but cannot seem to see that plank in your eye.
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:56 pm
by Conserative Morality » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:59 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fact: The Roman Kingdom was the pinnacle of western civilization.
by Kramanica » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:59 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fact: The Roman Kingdom was the pinnacle of western civilization.
by Kramanica » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:01 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Kramanica wrote:Feudalism came about in the chaos that followed the Roman Empire's collapse. People couldn't rely on Caesar's Legions to protect them anymore so they had to seek protection in the form of local rulers. That was the reason feudalism came about in Europe. And it worked for a while and did an even better job of protecting Europe from outside invasion than Rome did.
It didn't tho
The history of Europe after the fall of Rome is 90% outside invasions taking over and often butchering the aristocracy of the invaded region.
Feudalism survived because it was an effective way for elites to maintain power over the masses.
by Kramanica » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:01 pm
by Kramanica » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:02 pm
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:07 pm
by Painisia » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:10 pm
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by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:10 pm
Painisia wrote:Turkey seems to be the only legal successor to The Roman Empire. From The Byzantine Empire to The Ottomans and then to the Kemalist Turkey
by Conserative Morality » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:12 pm
Genivaria wrote: Populist Roman Republic to be precise, down with the out of touch Patricians!
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