UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go

[Painisia]

We should just say in the EU, regardless of the referendum. Europe is stronger together as a political union. In fact, abolish the nationstates and have Europe as one country.

Hell NO. It would be like Yugoslavia 2.0

[Dooom35796821595]

Because it’s a bad idea that no one in Europe really wants, besides a few extremist euro-federalists.

Why is it a bad idea? It is better to be united than apart.

The UK just voted to leave, hardly evidence that what’s required is a closer union.

And Europe is filled with various and diverse nations with different veiws on how pretty much everything should be done.

[Ifreann]

Why is it a bad idea? It is better to be united than apart.

The UK just voted to leave, hardly evidence that what’s required is a closer union.

And Europe is filled with various and diverse nations with different veiws on how pretty much everything should be done.

So is Britain.

[Dooom35796821595]

The UK just voted to leave, hardly evidence that what’s required is a closer union.

And Europe is filled with various and diverse nations with different veiws on how pretty much everything should be done.

So is Britain.

And the various nations in Britain are free to leave, and recent history has lead to more devolution, not massive centralisation.

[Ifreann]

So is Britain.

And the various nations in Britain are free to leave, and recent history has lead to more devolution, not massive centralisation.

They're not really free to leave though.

[Dooom35796821595]

And the various nations in Britain are free to leave, and recent history has lead to more devolution, not massive centralisation.

They're not really free to leave though.

They really are, Scotland had a referendum recently.

[Ifreann]

They're not really free to leave though.

They really are, Scotland had a referendum recently.

Yes, and now they won't be allowed another one for...well, who knows how long? So if the Scots want to leave now, they can't. Then there's Northern Ireland, which doesn't have a government, and Wales, which doesn't exist.

You'll recall that you didn't need to ask the EU for permission to leave.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Good kids tell their parents that they want nothing from a customs-dodging globalist citizen of nowhere.

What if the 'kid' is a customs-dodging globalist citizen of nowhere - one whose earliest memories of red-clad festive bearded gentlemen are of the dastardly foreign Belgian version of St Nicholas rather than the salt of the earth ruddy-cheeked self-reliant British Father Christmas?

What then?

Good lord. When Elizabeth the Enduring finally passes from this mortal coil, Nicholas the Charitable could seek to usurp Charles through his claim on the Hearts and Minds of the youth (and not being married to Camilla the Horsey). Our brave, independent, control-reclaimy nation will once more be under the heel of House Sprout. It's a black yellow and red NickIt.

[Dooom35796821595]

They really are, Scotland had a referendum recently.

Yes, and now they won't be allowed another one for...well, who knows how long? So if the Scots want to leave now, they can't. Then there's Northern Ireland, which doesn't have a government, and Wales, which doesn't exist.

You'll recall that you didn't need to ask the EU for permission to leave.

Scotland chose no, no reason to keep having one every time the weather changes. Northern Ireland’s problem, unless they want direct rule, something Westminster doesn’t want. And Japan should really stop hunting them.
Wales could have a referendum if popular opinion in Wales started to favour independence.

So how does that make a EU superstate more preferable? If that happened, the first thing to go would be article 50.

[Ifreann]

Yes, and now they won't be allowed another one for...well, who knows how long? So if the Scots want to leave now, they can't. Then there's Northern Ireland, which doesn't have a government, and Wales, which doesn't exist.

You'll recall that you didn't need to ask the EU for permission to leave.

Scotland chose no, no reason to keep having one every time the weather changes. Northern Ireland’s problem, unless they want direct rule, something Westminster doesn’t want. And Japan should really stop hunting them.
Wales could have a referendum if popular opinion in Wales started to favour independence.

So how does that make a EU superstate more preferable? If that happened, the first thing to go would be article 50.

Clearly you're already happy with a superstate that might or might not allow members to leave. An EU superstate would just be a bit bigger.

[Vassenor]

Yes, and now they won't be allowed another one for...well, who knows how long? So if the Scots want to leave now, they can't. Then there's Northern Ireland, which doesn't have a government, and Wales, which doesn't exist.

You'll recall that you didn't need to ask the EU for permission to leave.

Scotland chose no, no reason to keep having one every time the weather changes. Northern Ireland’s problem, unless they want direct rule, something Westminster doesn’t want. And Japan should really stop hunting them.
Wales could have a referendum if popular opinion in Wales started to favour independence.

So how does that make a EU superstate more preferable? If that happened, the first thing to go would be article 50.

#majorconstitutionalchange

[Dooom35796821595]

Scotland chose no, no reason to keep having one every time the weather changes. Northern Ireland’s problem, unless they want direct rule, something Westminster doesn’t want. And Japan should really stop hunting them.
Wales could have a referendum if popular opinion in Wales started to favour independence.

So how does that make a EU superstate more preferable? If that happened, the first thing to go would be article 50.

Clearly you're already happy with a superstate that might or might not allow members to leave. An EU superstate would just be a bit bigger.

A lot bigger. I don’t consider the USA a good model for comparison. Also, for all the complaints and moaning, life in the UK is a lot better then many other nations. I wouldn’t mind a EU superstate, as long as it was based on the right foundations, and looking at it currently is something I doubt would happen.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Nobody is fucking suggesting that products grown in the UK will be in shortage, or any shortage of staples. Not literal staples. Yes, to the horrors of many, we are likely to see shortages of avocados, lemons and Kinder buenos in the very short term following exit.

Given the problems farmers and growers are having with the weather this year, shortages of UK products are pretty much a certainty. It won't matter that it is not directly Brexit related. Headlines about a Christmas without sprouts will hurt the government.

[The BlAAtschApen]

Because it’s a bad idea that no one in Europe really wants, besides a few extremist euro-federalists.

>united kingdom

Shouldn't it be called united queendom anyway?

[The New California Republic]

>united kingdom

Shouldn't it be called united queendom anyway?

We change the national anthem, but we draw the line at that.

[Eraver]

I’m still a bit lost as to why we don’t have a coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, since Brexit is the biggest political thing to happen in fifty years.

We Want To UK Back In The EU,Not Leaving

[The New California Republic]

I’m still a bit lost as to why we don’t have a coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, since Brexit is the biggest political thing to happen in fifty years.

We Want To UK Back In The EU,Not Leaving

Why Have You Capitalized Every Word In The Sentence Like This?

[Trumptonium1]

I’m still a bit lost as to why we don’t have a coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, since Brexit is the biggest political thing to happen in fifty years.

With the intelligentsia on the benches opposite a la Diane Abbott?

[Hurdergaryp]

We Want To UK Back In The EU,Not Leaving

Why Have You Capitalized Every Word In The Sentence Like This?

THAT WAY YOU CAN MAKE YOUR TEXT LOOK MORE IMPRESSIVE, BUT THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENTS.

[Jedi Council]

Could Labour please get their shit together?
I mean its almost as big a mess as the Tories.

Its a sad day when I agree with Tony Blair, but he was right when he said that if Labour had a credible leader, one other than Corbyn, it could be up 20 points on the Tories.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Why Have You Capitalized Every Word In The Sentence Like This?

THAT WAY YOU CAN MAKE YOUR TEXT LOOK MORE IMPRESSIVE, BUT THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENTS.

Death?

[Questers]

The UK has a strong currency and huge financial reserves and a good credit rating.

The idea we're going to run out of food is lolworthy.

Food is going to become more expensive, as the cost of importing it increases.

[Ostroeuropa]

Could Labour please get their shit together?
I mean its almost as big a mess as the Tories.

Its a sad day when I agree with Tony Blair, but he was right when he said that if Labour had a credible leader, one other than Corbyn, it could be up 20 points on the Tories.

The press is virulently anti-corbyn and actively misrepresents him. We have our shit together, it's just that institutions in hoc to unfettered capitalism hate the notion of change.

75% of press coverage misrepresents Jeremy Corbyn:

three quarters of the time the press discusses corbyn, they're lying. That's why we're not ahead in the polls.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/je ... 44381.html

Blair was a harbinger of this kind of press power and unfettered capitalism. You shouldn't agree with that treacherous scumbag and war criminal blaming Corbyn when he's fully aware it's due to press bias against the left that he sold out to Murdock to avoid.

We all want and need a strong and a critical media, but maybe we do not need an attack dog that kills off anyone who challenges the status quo

That's all they are these days. The rich have rigged the system and don't want that challenged. The press is merely there to demonize anyone who tries to change things. It does not inform or educate. It does nothing but serve as a tool of libel, slander, and vilification for the wealthy.

[Eastfield Lodge]

Could Labour please get their shit together?
I mean its almost as big a mess as the Tories.

Its a sad day when I agree with Tony Blair, but he was right when he said that if Labour had a credible leader, one other than Corbyn, it could be up 20 points on the Tories.

The press is virulently anti-corbyn and actively misrepresents him. We have our shit together, it's just that institutions in hoc to unfettered capitalism hate the notion of change.

75% of press coverage misrepresents Jeremy Corbyn:

three quarters of the time the press discusses corbyn, they're lying. That's why we're not ahead in the polls.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/je ... 44381.html

Blair was a harbinger of this kind of press power and unfettered capitalism. You shouldn't agree with that treacherous scumbag and war criminal blaming Corbyn when he's fully aware it's due to press bias against the left that he sold out to Murdock to avoid.

We all want and need a strong and a critical media, but maybe we do not need an attack dog that kills off anyone who challenges the status quo

That's all they are these days. The rich have rigged the system and don't want that challenged. The press is merely there to demonize anyone who tries to change things. It does not inform or educate. It does nothing but serve as a tool of libel, slander, and vilification for the wealthy.

>Demonises all the press as elitist liars
>Uses an article from the press as backup

[Dooom35796821595]

Could Labour please get their shit together?
I mean its almost as big a mess as the Tories.

Its a sad day when I agree with Tony Blair, but he was right when he said that if Labour had a credible leader, one other than Corbyn, it could be up 20 points on the Tories.

The press is virulently anti-corbyn and actively misrepresents him. We have our shit together, it's just that institutions in hoc to unfettered capitalism hate the notion of change.

75% of press coverage misrepresents Jeremy Corbyn:

three quarters of the time the press discusses corbyn, they're lying. That's why we're not ahead in the polls.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/je ... 44381.html

Blair was a harbinger of this kind of press power and unfettered capitalism. You shouldn't agree with that treacherous scumbag and war criminal blaming Corbyn when he's fully aware it's due to press bias against the left that he sold out to Murdock to avoid.

We all want and need a strong and a critical media, but maybe we do not need an attack dog that kills off anyone who challenges the status quo

That's all they are these days. The rich have rigged the system and don't want that challenged. The press is merely there to demonize anyone who tries to change things. It does not inform or educate. It does nothing but serve as a tool of libel, slander, and vilification for the wealthy.

The Press are biased and liars, and politicians are liars and manipulators. Yet it didn’t stop Trump from becoming POTUS, so what’s Corbin excuse? Doesn’t have a twitter account? Can’t do an interview on BBC? Does he truly have support from Labour, since they aren’t shunned by the press.