We don't generally let parents torture their kids in civilized societies, though this practice remains a disturbing exception to that rule in many places.
San Marlindo wrote:Senkaku wrote:I mean you're not applauding it, you're in line with the people railing against it who justify their opposition to it with complaints that it's just a cynical ploy by leaders who don't really care to secure their own power by pandering to their base.
I'm railing against the cynical leadership not the legislation. I think it's pandering and virtue-signalling, but that doesn't mean I think the legislation was antithetical to progress.
Pointing out that it's incomplete and could go further on a different issue seems perfectly reasonable. Joining the reactionaries in tearing down the whole thing seems rather less so, especially from someone who it sounds like has a deep personal interest in the issue.
On the first part- I doubt it, given the influence that some cults (@Scientology) hold and the trickiness of interfering with religion and with the actions of adults rather than minors. On the second front- that makes sense, but it might be worth it to get in touch with your state legislator (...if you live in a blue state, anyways, no red state will ever do anything like this, much less go further ) or whatnot.
We've tried. Others have tried. For decades. Suing the deprogramming centers, suing the state, suing psychiatrists. There is no justice, partly because the public - including most jurors - have been misled to believe cult deprogramming is necessary in most cases, because they think of Jim Jones or Scientology when they think cult. No sympathy for the victims or respect for their religious beliefs.
...I think I misunderstood lmao, I thought you were talking about cults "deprogramming" their followers to coerce them into being more obedient, not post-cult deprogramming (don't get me wrong, I've no doubt it's just as brutal, since "programming" humans always is). But that must be an even tinier group of people, no? The ones who go into groups like the Hare Krishnas and then come out and are deprogrammed?
a) this one group receives a disproportionate amount of media coverage and attention from the electorate, while others do not. Therefore, legislators in states like Hawaii and Delaware only care about one kind of conversion therapy affecting this group.
"Disproportionate amount of media coverage and attention from the electorate"- what a delicate euphemism lol. Your phrasing is certainly quite artful, I'll give you that much.