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If a general election were held today who would you vote for?

Conservatives
126
16%
Labour
229
30%
Liberal Democrats
130
17%
Greens
39
5%
UKIP
135
18%
SNP
26
3%
Plaid Cymru
7
1%
Sinn Fein/SDLP
27
4%
DUP/UUP
12
2%
Other
35
5%
 
Total votes : 766

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:17 am

MERIZoC wrote:I like how we were all thinking having to rely on the DUP was going to fuck this government up, but no, the tories have managed to do it on their own.

https://twitter.com/MattChorley/status/ ... 4521788416

Just stiffen your upper lip and think of England while this political opera is working its way towards the inevitable crescendo.


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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:17 am

Caracasus wrote:Anyone else think Gove said he'd resign of Johnson did and Johnson fell for it?

I mean, Johnson doesn't have the best intellect, so possibly...
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:18 am

Caracasus wrote:Anyone else think Gove said he'd resign of Johnson did and Johnson fell for it?

I can see Gove laughing his ass off, shouting "REKT!"
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:18 am

Caracasus wrote:Anyone else think Gove said he'd resign of Johnson did and Johnson fell for it?


My thought was that Johnson probably told Gove that he wasn't going to resign in revenge.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:18 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Caracasus wrote:Anyone else think Gove said he'd resign of Johnson did and Johnson fell for it?

I can see Gove laughing his ass off, shouting "REKT!"

Tipping his conservative hat and filling it with tea...
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:19 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Caracasus wrote:Anyone else think Gove said he'd resign of Johnson did and Johnson fell for it?

I can see Gove laughing his ass off, shouting "REKT!"

"You are, as the common plebs might say, fucking rekt, my good sir"
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:19 am

The South Falls wrote:
Caracasus wrote:Anyone else think Gove said he'd resign of Johnson did and Johnson fell for it?

I mean, Johnson doesn't have the best intellect, so possibly...

But is Boris going for a putsch or will he just retire?


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Postby Caracasus » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:21 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I mean, Johnson doesn't have the best intellect, so possibly...

But is Boris going for a putsch or will he just retire?


He will run, with Gove's 'support'.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:21 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I mean, Johnson doesn't have the best intellect, so possibly...

But is Boris going for a putsch or will he just retire?

The Boris Hall Putsch? I could see it. Get May drunk, force Corbyn into a hole, and tell Gove off gently.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:22 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:I like how we were all thinking having to rely on the DUP was going to fuck this government up, but no, the tories have managed to do it on their own.

https://twitter.com/MattChorley/status/ ... 4521788416

Just stiffen your upper lip and think of England while this political opera is working its way towards the inevitable crescendo.

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Postby Juristonia » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:23 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Juristonia wrote:Your analogy was bad and you should feel bad.


No, there's not.
There's really really not.

Don’t fucking care

Clearly you do, considering you keep defending the very bad analogy.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:25 am

Caracasus wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:But is Boris going for a putsch or will he just retire?

He will run, with Gove's 'support'.

Is that a promise, or is it a threat?


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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:39 am

The South Falls wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:But is Boris going for a putsch or will he just retire?

The Boris Hall Putsch? I could see it. Get May drunk, force Corbyn into a hole, and tell Gove off gently.


In my political fanfic he takes his recent outbursts at business to their logical conclusion, becomes a radical lexiter, storms back into Westminster at the head of a dozen legions, puts the cabinet's heads on pikes and gets the cowed remains of Parliament to appoint him dictator perpetuo.
Furthermore, I consider that feminism must be destroyed.

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Postby Lauchenoiria » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:45 am

Caracasus wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:But is Boris going for a putsch or will he just retire?


He will run, with Gove's 'support'.

Boris Johnson as Prime Minister would be the death of the UK. Which, as a supporter of Scottish independence, I should want.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:45 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
The South Falls wrote:The Boris Hall Putsch? I could see it. Get May drunk, force Corbyn into a hole, and tell Gove off gently.

In my political fanfic he takes his recent outbursts at business to their logical conclusion, becomes a radical lexiter, storms back into Westminster at the head of a dozen legions, puts the cabinet's heads on pikes and gets the cowed remains of Parliament to appoint him dictator perpetuo.

Followed by the landing of an EU intervention force in Scotland.


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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:46 am

The way Boris has got lots of journalists hanging around waiting for him to leave his residence, makes me think he is likely to announce a leadership challenge.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:49 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:In my political fanfic he takes his recent outbursts at business to their logical conclusion, becomes a radical lexiter, storms back into Westminster at the head of a dozen legions, puts the cabinet's heads on pikes and gets the cowed remains of Parliament to appoint him dictator perpetuo.

Followed by the landing of an EU intervention force in Scotland.


Who are all driven into the sea and drown when they discover the specially raised EU navy left, having decided to repudiate war in favour of becoming a full-time African and Middle Eastern migrant taxi.
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Postby Caracasus » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:52 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Caracasus wrote:He will run, with Gove's 'support'.

Is that a promise, or is it a threat?


Kind of both really...
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:59 am

Rees-Mogg says there will be no confidence vote.

I expect she'll get the letters by 9pm at the latest then...

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:02 am

What if Liam Fox has resigned and nobody noticed?
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:09 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The way Boris has got lots of journalists hanging around waiting for him to leave his residence, makes me think he is likely to announce a leadership challenge.

There are a lot of journalists whenever something involving Boris is occurring. The man is a walking comedic headline/soundbite generator.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:12 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The way Boris has got lots of journalists hanging around waiting for him to leave his residence, makes me think he is likely to announce a leadership challenge.

There are a lot of journalists whenever something involving Boris is occurring. The man is a walking comedic headline/soundbite generator.


I'm saying he is deliberately building up the tension to make sure he gets maximum impact.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:18 am

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:20 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:There are a lot of journalists whenever something involving Boris is occurring. The man is a walking comedic headline/soundbite generator.

I'm saying he is deliberately building up the tension to make sure he gets maximum impact.

So everyone is eagerly awaiting what Boris the Blonde Wonder is going to do next.


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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:29 am

Fartsniffage wrote:Rees-Mogg says there will be no confidence vote.

I expect she'll get the letters by 9pm at the latest then...

I read this completely wrong earlier. I was almost excited by a possibility of the challenge, now not so much.
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