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by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:30 am
by Doom Legions » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:56 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:I picked up a bunch of kills as Rengar then I tried to go for the Veigar.
Problem is... the minute I ult he just throws out his cage in anticipation of where I will flank from (a giant pink exclamation mark tells him where I am). I fell for this one time too many (got hit by a sudden cage... 1 shotted by his R). Lost the game.
Such a sad game... I feel really stupid now (could have mind-gamed him a bit better but still, the interaction is so dumb... I R, he Es as I'm about to jump... BOOM... trapped... Veigar R + W = lead thrown). Also... every single team fight... if I R... he's going to throw a cage to massively zone me out for the duration. Too much warning time.
See?
SEE?!!!!
This is why you pick Shaco for a job like this. No warnings for the enemy at all... doesn't have to wait until 6 to be able to do anything only to be out scaled.
by Infected Mushroom » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:16 pm
Doom Legions wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:I picked up a bunch of kills as Rengar then I tried to go for the Veigar.
Problem is... the minute I ult he just throws out his cage in anticipation of where I will flank from (a giant pink exclamation mark tells him where I am). I fell for this one time too many (got hit by a sudden cage... 1 shotted by his R). Lost the game.
Such a sad game... I feel really stupid now (could have mind-gamed him a bit better but still, the interaction is so dumb... I R, he Es as I'm about to jump... BOOM... trapped... Veigar R + W = lead thrown). Also... every single team fight... if I R... he's going to throw a cage to massively zone me out for the duration. Too much warning time.
See?
SEE?!!!!
This is why you pick Shaco for a job like this. No warnings for the enemy at all... doesn't have to wait until 6 to be able to do anything only to be out scaled.
Haha, yes that's a thing. What you should've done is try to bait his cage, wait 2 seconds for it to disappear and *then* engage. You should be able to insta-burst him. Unless you fed him so much he sneezes and your healthbar explodes.
Also if you do kill him, MOVE. A good Veigar always leaves behind an impending W, which deals tons of fucking damage and can easily kill you if you're not full HP.
by Ruskland-Preuben » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:12 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:Doom Legions wrote:Haha, yes that's a thing. What you should've done is try to bait his cage, wait 2 seconds for it to disappear and *then* engage. You should be able to insta-burst him. Unless you fed him so much he sneezes and your healthbar explodes.
Also if you do kill him, MOVE. A good Veigar always leaves behind an impending W, which deals tons of fucking damage and can easily kill you if you're not full HP.
Guess I should have built Edge of Night...
or pick a champion that goes invisible without (looking at you Rengar*) shouting out loud:
"I AM INVISIBLE ENNEMY TEAM! ... PREPARE YOURSELF! YOU WILL ALL DIE! ... I'M COMING TO KILL YOU! I'M COMING TO KILL YOU! I'M COM-"
*gets stuck by Veigar cage and instantly nuked....
by Infected Mushroom » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:11 pm
Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
Guess I should have built Edge of Night...
or pick a champion that goes invisible without (looking at you Rengar*) shouting out loud:
"I AM INVISIBLE ENNEMY TEAM! ... PREPARE YOURSELF! YOU WILL ALL DIE! ... I'M COMING TO KILL YOU! I'M COMING TO KILL YOU! I'M COM-"
*gets stuck by Veigar cage and instantly nuked....
Give Rengar a Zhonya's to prevent Ult nuke? I mean, AP RNGar is a thing.
by Ruskland-Preuben » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:15 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Ruskland-Preuben wrote:
Give Rengar a Zhonya's to prevent Ult nuke? I mean, AP RNGar is a thing.
I think it got nerfed as a viable build path.
Your Q, autos, and Es become absolutely horrendous if you go AP (massively diminishing your burst). Plus even if you go AP I would prefer Banshee's Veil (with the free spell shield) against Veigar.
I mess up Zhonyas timings all the time even though I mained Vladimir for a long time
by Infected Mushroom » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:34 am
Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
I think it got nerfed as a viable build path.
Your Q, autos, and Es become absolutely horrendous if you go AP (massively diminishing your burst). Plus even if you go AP I would prefer Banshee's Veil (with the free spell shield) against Veigar.
I mess up Zhonyas timings all the time even though I mained Vladimir for a long time
Why don't you train your Zhonyas by using it a second after you land your Malph ult?
by Doom Legions » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:59 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Ruskland-Preuben wrote:
Why don't you train your Zhonyas by using it a second after you land your Malph ult?
I pretty much only opt to build Zhonyas on Vladimir and Annie... on Vladimir I build it extremely late (I like to sit on the CDR component and get to Deathcap sooner).
You lose too much damage from building it compared to other AP options. I only build it when I feel I have no choice (ex Vladimir and Annie fight way too close to the front to not have it as a back up/juke tool). These days I even sometimes elect to have Vladimir only use the Pool and not even complete Zhonyas because Damage Damage Damage.
Its just that eh... the number of times when I'm Vladimir and I could have Zhonya-ed/Stopwatched and lived is quite embarrassing.
Even when playing against Zeds, I delay having to build it (if at all); religiously sticking to pure damage builds and trying to rely on match up knowledge and proper spacing to win. The damage loss from building Zhonyas is extremely noticeable on picks like Lux, Ziggs, Viktor etc.
On Malphite I like to go 100% full armor so that his E does as much damage as possible in team fights (while enjoying ridiculous tankiness). I usually don't go AP on him. Its just not my play style.
But yeah on Annie, I sometimes do the Flash R stun combo followed by Zhonyas when focused. Its a classic. These days though, I rarely play her because I feel like Vladimir does everything she does except better.
by Infected Mushroom » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:52 pm
Doom Legions wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
I pretty much only opt to build Zhonyas on Vladimir and Annie... on Vladimir I build it extremely late (I like to sit on the CDR component and get to Deathcap sooner).
You lose too much damage from building it compared to other AP options. I only build it when I feel I have no choice (ex Vladimir and Annie fight way too close to the front to not have it as a back up/juke tool). These days I even sometimes elect to have Vladimir only use the Pool and not even complete Zhonyas because Damage Damage Damage.
Its just that eh... the number of times when I'm Vladimir and I could have Zhonya-ed/Stopwatched and lived is quite embarrassing.
Even when playing against Zeds, I delay having to build it (if at all); religiously sticking to pure damage builds and trying to rely on match up knowledge and proper spacing to win. The damage loss from building Zhonyas is extremely noticeable on picks like Lux, Ziggs, Viktor etc.
On Malphite I like to go 100% full armor so that his E does as much damage as possible in team fights (while enjoying ridiculous tankiness). I usually don't go AP on him. Its just not my play style.
But yeah on Annie, I sometimes do the Flash R stun combo followed by Zhonyas when focused. Its a classic. These days though, I rarely play her because I feel like Vladimir does everything she does except better.
Sure, building Zhonya's early means you'll deal less damage.
But when you're dead you deal *no* damage.
Consider that.
by Ameriganastan » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:30 pm
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:55 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Aatrox been eating his veggies...
by Infected Mushroom » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:51 am
by Ameriganastan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:06 pm
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Infected Mushroom » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:53 pm
by Ameriganastan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:01 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:Ameriganastan wrote:...That is a lackluster rework. Looks kinda...eh.
LOL
ITS A DBZ VILLAIN
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Ruskland-Preuben » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:50 am
by Ameriganastan » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:12 pm
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Torisakia » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:31 pm
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by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:43 pm
Torisakia wrote:I'm on my way to having a second perma-banned account. In my defense, I shouldn't have to play with 12 year olds who have no clue how the game works. Just because I have no clue how the game works doesn't mean I should be on a team with similar.
by Ameriganastan » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:30 am
Torisakia wrote:I'm on my way to having a second perma-banned account. In my defense, I shouldn't have to play with 12 year olds who have no clue how the game works. Just because I have no clue how the game works doesn't mean I should be on a team with similar.
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Ameriganastan » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:02 pm
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Ameriganastan » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:46 pm
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Kractero » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:20 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Torisakia wrote:I'm on my way to having a second perma-banned account. In my defense, I shouldn't have to play with 12 year olds who have no clue how the game works. Just because I have no clue how the game works doesn't mean I should be on a team with similar.
Preaching to the choir man. I've lost 4 of them. Cause apparently telling sucky players how bad they suck makes YOU the bad guy.
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:55 pm
by Ameriganastan » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:00 pm
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
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