Free American Empire- wrote:I have seen libertarians turn to alt-right way too often..
Right-libertarianism, unlike left-libertarianism, is generally authoritarian. Ron Paul talks about the U.S. Constitution like he was preaching on the Bible.
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by Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:12 pm
Free American Empire- wrote:I have seen libertarians turn to alt-right way too often..
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by The New Sea Territory » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:12 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:The New Sea Territory wrote: Once we must not live "for" anyone else, our freedom can be solely for ourselves. And this, to me, necessitates class struggle, among other things like LGBT, Black or even national liberation struggles.
How is class struggle not living for others? It is collectivism in its purest form.
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by The Multiversal Communist Collective » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:18 pm
Cekoviu wrote:he's a rightlib, what did you expect? :^)
by Proctopeo » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:30 pm
by Cekoviu » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:42 pm
Painisia wrote:What do you all think of corporatism? I guess everybody here bears a grunt towards corporatism
by Cekoviu » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:43 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Right-libertarianism, unlike left-libertarianism, is generally authoritarian. Ron Paul talks about the U.S. Constitution like he was preaching on the Bible.
Strange, because I've observed the exact opposite.
Left-libertarians tend to be quite authoritarian when push comes to shove, as I've observed.
by Rostavykhan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:45 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Right-libertarianism, unlike left-libertarianism, is generally authoritarian. Ron Paul talks about the U.S. Constitution like he was preaching on the Bible.
Strange, because I've observed the exact opposite.
Left-libertarians tend to be quite authoritarian when push comes to shove, as I've observed.
by Proctopeo » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:46 pm
by The South Falls » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:48 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Cekoviu wrote:How so?
I've seen more left-libertarians in favor of curtailing civil rights like free speech, free press, and free assembly than their right-wing equivalents, speaking purely from personal experience.Rostavykhan wrote:
I've seen Libertarians in general go the Authoritarian route when it comes to people they dislike, TBF.
Yeah, although I have seen it more out of the left than out of the right.
by Proctopeo » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:49 pm
Cekoviu wrote:Proctopeo wrote:I've seen more left-libertarians in favor of curtailing civil rights like free speech, free press, and free assembly than their right-wing equivalents, speaking purely from personal experience.
Is this support for really restricting those or protesting against particular exercises of these rights?
The South Falls wrote:Proctopeo wrote:I've seen more left-libertarians in favor of curtailing civil rights like free speech, free press, and free assembly than their right-wing equivalents, speaking purely from personal experience.
Yeah, although I have seen it more out of the left than out of the right.
But, are people abusing those powers, or not?
by Northern Davincia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:53 pm
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by The Multiversal Communist Collective » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:53 pm
Rostavykhan wrote:I've seen Libertarians in general go the Authoritarian route when it comes to people they dislike, TBF.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:54 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Nonsense. The US constitution, if one were to follow it literally, stops authoritarianism dead in its tracks.
by The South Falls » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:56 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Cekoviu wrote:Is this support for really restricting those or protesting against particular exercises of these rights?
Generally I've seen them take a third option, related to both; advocating for the restrictions of these rights under circumstances which vary across the entire spectrum of specificity.The South Falls wrote:But, are people abusing those powers, or not?
Does it really matter?
by Proctopeo » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:57 pm
The South Falls wrote:Proctopeo wrote:Generally I've seen them take a third option, related to both; advocating for the restrictions of these rights under circumstances which vary across the entire spectrum of specificity.
Does it really matter?
But it does? We can't just "Rebel without a cause". Shameless James Dean promo #1
by Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:06 pm
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by The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:36 pm
Puldania wrote:Valgora wrote:
I have literally never heard of this.
I've never though "it's a female teacher, she's going to grade me lower cause I'm a male" and I've never heard anyone else say that at all.
If were talking about schools, how about dress codes being harsher for females because "males could get distracted"?
Yes indeed. School dress-codes are centered around policing girls for the simple fact that grown men could be attracted to them.
Also, teachers in my schools mostly assumed all girls were dumbasses. The would always assign a boy to them in group projects because they didn't think the girls could be intellectual about anything.
by Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:39 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Puldania wrote:Yes indeed. School dress-codes are centered around policing girls for the simple fact that grown men could be attracted to them.
Also, teachers in my schools mostly assumed all girls were dumbasses. The would always assign a boy to them in group projects because they didn't think the girls could be intellectual about anything.
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by The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:43 pm
Puldania wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
It's a study. Do you have a different one, or merely a bunch of feminist anecdotes and assertions, perhaps some cherry picked examples of womens issues without discussing mens to argue they're oppressed?
The study shows girls expect better treatment from the men but they don't give it, and instead treat everyone equally. This is in line with the study showing women being treated equally makes them think they're being discriminated against, which is likewise in line with the women are wonderful study. (Women have a huge in group bias, men don't, they are slightly biased in favor of women, but not as much as women are.)
https://uwspace.uwaterloo.ca/handle/10012/6958
Subjects were shown several vignettes of men interacting with men or men interacting with women.
Men who treated women better than they treated men were seen as not sexist. Men who treated women the way they treat men were seen as hostilely sexist.
It's almost like people expect to be treated according to their actual identity!
Are you too obtuse to pick up that men and women think and act differently in regards to social interaction?
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:44 pm
by Cekoviu » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:27 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Puldania wrote:
It's almost like people expect to be treated according to their actual identity!
Are you too obtuse to pick up that men and women think and act differently in regards to social interaction?
So you believe that women and men should be treated differently? That women should be treated better? Oof.
by Free American Empire- » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:16 pm
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