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Should those who visit Auschwitz also visit Hiroshima/Nagasaki?

Yes (if possible)
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Vassenor
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:54 am

Fenriis wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I bet he'd call clowns agents of the Rothschilds if his hate-spewing websites made that claim. :^)

Your the hateful one supporting genocide and evil figures like Bomber Harris and Stalin and the Soviets. I also happen to read brilliant books


So how was the bombing campaign a concerted effort to destroy an ethnic group?
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:54 am

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They are all Zionist and Rothschild controlled organisations.


If the jews actually control the world, what does that say about the so-called "superior" aryans? :lol2:
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Postby North Arkana » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:56 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Fenriis wrote:They are all Zionist and Rothschild controlled organisations.


If the jews actually control the world, what does that say about the so-called "superior" aryans? :lol2:

It's super common with conspiracy theorists.

"We're both downtrodden and inherently superior!"
"The enemy is inferior but controls everything!"
"The secret society is all powerful but can't stop a few nutcases!"

Literal doublethink.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:57 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Grenartia wrote:


Keywords to pay attention to.


Not buying it son. When someone claims that the citizens of Hiroshima were leafleted before the bomb was dropped the implication is that they were given specific information about the threat posed by this new superweapon. Not that they might have seen a leaflet at some point in the past that said some cities were targets for fire bombing but maybe or maybe not their city.


That is not the impllcation. The implication is that they were warned that cities would be destroyed, some specifically, and others not specifically (which is the best route to go whilst trying to maintaining military secrecy, after all, it doesn't take Sun fucking Tzu to know that its a bad idea to announce where and with what you're going to strike your enemies). And you know, if you lived in a city where said leaflets were dropped, then it would behoove you to not take the fucking chance of staying if at all possible.
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Postby Fenriis » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:58 am

North Arkana wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
If the jews actually control the world, what does that say about the so-called "superior" aryans? :lol2:

It's super common with conspiracy theorists.

"We're both downtrodden and inherently superior!"
"The enemy is inferior but controls everything!"
"The secret society is all powerful but can't stop a few nutcases!"

I never called anyone superior. Secondly while the richer occupied countries create things the NWO occupation government only leeches and destroys leaving ruin in its wake after all the blood is drained

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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:00 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I bet he'd call clowns agents of the Rothschilds if his hate-spewing websites made that claim. :^)

Your the hateful one supporting genocide and evil figures like Bomber Harris and Stalin and the Soviets. I also happen to read brilliant books


Bomber Harris do it again!
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Postby Fenriis » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:01 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Your the hateful one supporting genocide and evil figures like Bomber Harris and Stalin and the Soviets. I also happen to read brilliant books


Bomber Harris do it again!

I get it you love mass murder.

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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:02 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Your the hateful one supporting genocide and evil figures like Bomber Harris and Stalin and the Soviets. I also happen to read brilliant books


So how was the bombing campaign a concerted effort to destroy an ethnic group?


Something something killing lots of Germans simply because they're Germans, something something not a military target, something something 20 gorrillion civilian casualties.
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Postby North Arkana » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:02 pm

Fenriis wrote:

I get it you love mass murder.

And you love the genocidal maniacs?
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Grenartia
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:03 pm

Fenriis wrote:

I get it you love mass murder.


Nah, I just love justice being done to Nazis.
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Postby Fenriis » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:03 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Fenriis wrote:I get it you love mass murder.

And you love the genocidal maniacs?

No I am opposed to the NWO and the globalist cabal

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Postby New Axiom » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:04 pm

Fenriis wrote:
North Arkana wrote:And you love the genocidal maniacs?

No I am opposed to the NWO and the globalist cabal


Which doesn’t exist.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:04 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I bet he'd call clowns agents of the Rothschilds if his hate-spewing websites made that claim. :^)

Your the hateful one supporting genocide and evil figures like Bomber Harris


Arthur "Blitz the Fritz" Harris do it again!

and Stalin and the Soviets.


*Katyusha intensifies*

I also happen to read brilliant books


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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:05 pm

Fenriis wrote:
North Arkana wrote:And you love the genocidal maniacs?

No I am opposed to the NWO and the globalist cabal


Then you should hate fascism. They were totally NWO globalists.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:06 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Not buying it son. When someone claims that the citizens of Hiroshima were leafleted before the bomb was dropped the implication is that they were given specific information about the threat posed by this new superweapon. Not that they might have seen a leaflet at some point in the past that said some cities were targets for fire bombing but maybe or maybe not their city.


That is not the impllcation. The implication is that they were warned that cities would be destroyed, some specifically, and others not specifically (which is the best route to go whilst trying to maintaining military secrecy, after all, it doesn't take Sun fucking Tzu to know that its a bad idea to announce where and with what you're going to strike your enemies). And you know, if you lived in a city where said leaflets were dropped, then it would behoove you to not take the fucking chance of staying if at all possible.


Just like the citizens of London all moved out during the Blitz. After all, they knew the city was being bombed night after night.

Or maybe your idea that a cities entire population can just bugger off and live up a hill somewhere is a little bit daft.

The leafleting thing was a band aid to try to plaster over the fact that the firebombings in Japan were a brutal method to try to force an end to the war before having to invade. The Allies knew full well that the vast majority of the populations had no option but to stay in the cities, but the leaflets probably made the pilots feel a bit better about murdering 10s of thousands of people with each raid.

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Postby Fenriis » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:06 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Your the hateful one supporting genocide and evil figures like Bomber Harris


Arthur "Blitz the Fritz" Harris do it again!

and Stalin and the Soviets.


*Katyusha intensifies*

I also happen to read brilliant books


Mein Kampf is a middle schooler's fanfic, not a book.

I am reading the book history of central banking and the enslavement of mankind

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Postby Fenriis » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:07 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Fenriis wrote:No I am opposed to the NWO and the globalist cabal


Then you should hate fascism. They were totally NWO globalists.

They fought to free the world from their death grip. They did bad things too bad they were on the good side overall it seems
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:07 pm

Fenriis wrote:
North Arkana wrote:And you love the genocidal maniacs?

No I am opposed to the NWO and the globalist cabal


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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:07 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Arthur "Blitz the Fritz" Harris do it again!



*Katyusha intensifies*



Mein Kampf is a middle schooler's fanfic, not a book.

I am reading the book history of central banking and the enslavement of mankind


Sounds like a pretty stupid book if you ask me :^)
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Postby New Axiom » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:08 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Then you should hate fascism. They were totally NWO globalists.

They fought to free the world from their death grip


No, they fought to enslave the world with their own death grip.
Everyone has a plan until the New Axiom Imperial Army comes. Then everyone is just like, omigawd. Run.

My favorite user quotes:
Zakuvia wrote:If you aren't imagining a chain gang of adorable old retirees building a wall with Fixodent and using their Hoverounds as tow trucks then you're not the NS I remember.


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New Axiom wrote:
You mean Black Friday as in the Apex Preadator of Capatalism?

Victory is measured in gi Joe dolls and easy bake ovens. It was not old age that killed castro, it was nintendo.


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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:10 pm

New Axiom wrote:
Fenriis wrote:They fought to free the world from their death grip


No, they fought to enslave the world with their own death grip.


Defending die vaterland in die mutterland since 1941 :^)
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Grenartia
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:10 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
That is not the impllcation. The implication is that they were warned that cities would be destroyed, some specifically, and others not specifically (which is the best route to go whilst trying to maintaining military secrecy, after all, it doesn't take Sun fucking Tzu to know that its a bad idea to announce where and with what you're going to strike your enemies). And you know, if you lived in a city where said leaflets were dropped, then it would behoove you to not take the fucking chance of staying if at all possible.


Just like the citizens of London all moved out during the Blitz. After all, they knew the city was being bombed night after night.

Or maybe your idea that a cities entire population can just bugger off and live up a hill somewhere is a little bit daft.

The leafleting thing was a band aid to try to plaster over the fact that the firebombings in Japan were a brutal method to try to force an end to the war before having to invade. The Allies knew full well that the vast majority of the populations had no option but to stay in the cities, but the leaflets probably made the pilots feel a bit better about murdering 10s of thousands of people with each raid.


Would you rather the enemy's war infrastructure (military factories, military facilities, etc.) stay intact? Say what you will about the human horrors, but they were unavoidable with the available technology. You can't precision bomb a tank factory without knocking out the surrounding neighborhood unless you have a bomb with a 10m CEP.

At least with Japan, an attempt was made to reduce civilian casualties in the only feasible way.
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New Axiom
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Postby New Axiom » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:11 pm

Torrocca wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
No, they fought to enslave the world with their own death grip.


Defending die vaterland in die mutterland since 1941 :^)


:lol2:
Everyone has a plan until the New Axiom Imperial Army comes. Then everyone is just like, omigawd. Run.

My favorite user quotes:
Zakuvia wrote:If you aren't imagining a chain gang of adorable old retirees building a wall with Fixodent and using their Hoverounds as tow trucks then you're not the NS I remember.


Ethel mermania wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
You mean Black Friday as in the Apex Preadator of Capatalism?

Victory is measured in gi Joe dolls and easy bake ovens. It was not old age that killed castro, it was nintendo.


Pringles or Lays Stax? I prefer the Lays.

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Grenartia
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:11 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Then you should hate fascism. They were totally NWO globalists.

They fought to free the world from their death grip


More like they fought the free world with their death grip.
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Fenriis
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Postby Fenriis » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:40 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Fenriis wrote:They fought to free the world from their death grip


More like they fought the free world with their death grip.

The fascists only did couple of bad incidents from what you named here but American and the Soviets and the globalists did a lot worse and continue to do so

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