by Cormactopia Prime » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:40 pm
by Canton Empire » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:44 pm
by Carolus Rex Francae » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:49 pm
by Pencil Sharpeners 2 » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:52 pm
by Ambrella » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:55 pm
by Wabbitslayah » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:55 pm
Canton Empire wrote:It’s gonna fail. I really don’t see a way in which this succeeds in any way that doing operations together wouldn’t.
by Solorni » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:57 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:I received some information recently that Balder, Europeia, and The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) are about to launch a joint military called the Independent Joint Command Coalition (IJCC).
by Cormactopia Prime » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:58 pm
Ambrella wrote:Given that it's currently before the Europeian Senate, it's less "exposing" and more "noticing."
Solorni wrote:This information has been public in Balder & Europeia since it was introduced into our legislatures on May 29th.
by Solorni » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:03 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Ambrella wrote:Given that it's currently before the Europeian Senate, it's less "exposing" and more "noticing."Solorni wrote:This information has been public in Balder & Europeia since it was introduced into our legislatures on May 29th.
I say quasi-public because both regions' legislatures do require masking, which is probably why this was thought to be secret.
by Cormactopia Prime » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:07 pm
Solorni wrote:When there are hundreds of citizens in Europeia, Balder and LKE combined... it can't really be thought of as a secret
by Ambrella » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:09 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Solorni wrote:When there are hundreds of citizens in Europeia, Balder and LKE combined... it can't really be thought of as a secret
A valid point. When it was given to me, the person clearly believed it was secret. I didn't check, because as I've noted, I don't much care about this. It's interesting, but I don't find it nearly as exciting or controversial as some apparently believe it to be. I just posted it because I said I would.
by Salvarity » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:13 pm
Solorni wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:I received some information recently that Balder, Europeia, and The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) are about to launch a joint military called the Independent Joint Command Coalition (IJCC).
This information has been public in Balder & Europeia since it was introduced into our legislatures on May 29th. I'd also like to note that Balder has a long history of proposed and actual joint ventures with our allies. WALL & ISRA are the two actualized ones but there have been a few other proposed ideas. I do like it when ambitious things are actualized.
by Drop Your Pants » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:17 pm
Ambrella wrote:I feel like this thread would have been more fun if that person had been willing to muddy their own hands... but perhaps they will yet appear in the comments.
by Cormactopia Prime » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:20 pm
Speaker Writinglegend,
Early on in this term, I discussed with my team an issue I perceived with our foreign policy: increasingly, it was not of our own choosing. While Europeia is respected abroad, and our statements are taken seriously by most major players, our region has done little to lead the world. As one of the most active regions in the game, it is odd that we are often perceived as lessers to many regions that spend more time inactive than not.
At the same time, we have achieved a great deal of clout through the WALL and other agreements with like-minded regions. However, our military seemed to always stand on the precipice of greatness. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride. If we had room to move and to shake, military affairs seemed to be a good place to do it.
Suddenly, the answer became obvious. Take the principle of coordination behind the WALL and apply it to our military strategy.
To that end, I approached two of our oldest allies: Balder and The Land of Kings and Emperors about creating a Joint Command system between our three regions. Together, we could create a military stronger and more nimble than perhaps any other in history. I am delighted that they agreed.
Our enemies abroad are assaulting Independence by embracing fringe ideologies like Francoism, and to be quite frank, it is time they are told in no uncertain terms to cut it out. Europeia needs to be respected for our words, but also for our might. Together with our friends abroad, we will be able to work together to create a Nationstates that is safe for Independence.
To be clear for the casual reader: Neither Europeia nor her allies will give up their military sovereignty in this treaty. Regions will hold veto power for military missions and have full right to withdraw their militaries from certain missions. But when you have friends that you agree with 90% of the time, I suspect the occasions we need to use those tools will be rare.
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:29 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Interesting to see Europeia essentially declare the NPO its enemy.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
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by Gibraltarica » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:35 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:36 pm
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:Interesting to see Europeia essentially declare the NPO its enemy.
Given their stance on strong UCR's and their role in politics, and given that such an ideology seems to be on the spread, complete with empty claims of "subversion" and breaking out "userite" as a slur whenever possible, now being utilized by several different feeders, is it really a shock to see a backlash begin to form?
by Glen-Rhodes » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:37 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:41 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Also, it was common practice a while ago for Europeia to insert clauses into their treaties banning the signatories from signing over their military forces like this. Wonder if that’s still the case...
by Glen-Rhodes » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:43 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Glen-Rhodes wrote:Also, it was common practice a while ago for Europeia to insert clauses into their treaties banning the signatories from signing over their military forces like this. Wonder if that’s still the case...
Europeia only had that clause to prevent its allies' membership in the Founderless Regions Alliance (FRA). In the cases of Sovereign Confederation, UIAF, and the Imperial Sovereign Realms Army (ISRA), Europeia interpreted all three of those as not being prohibited by their treaties.
by Canton Empire » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:46 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:51 pm
by Salvarity » Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:01 pm
It's beyond time for the Feeders and Sinkers that have relations with them to cut relations with these three regions,
and to treat Balder as a user-created region
That's the choice Balder has made by joining this organization and siding with Europeia in its crusade against certain Feeders and Sinkers.
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