A very astute statement. Congratulations, good sir.
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by Eglaecia » Tue May 29, 2018 11:27 am
Petrasylvania wrote:The troll energy generated here could power a small town.
by Petrasylvania » Tue May 29, 2018 11:33 am
by Matthewstownville » Tue May 29, 2018 11:39 am
Cranborne wrote:Over the weekend, I whilst still pondering the issue in my last thread and how to better refine my proposal I was also thinking on some of the best ways on how to judge and punish those that seek out abortions and perform them. I came to the conclusion that since abortion is ending life, both the person getting the abortion and the abortionist should naturally be punished like others who unjustly take away human life - capital punishment. Now, of course some could at least understand punishing the abortionist in such a manner, even if they disagree, but the mother? Surely not?! But yes, in fact more so than that of the abortionist, for it is the expectant mother who is the ultimate cause of each case of abortion being conducted, though both deserve the same punishment. Of course, in many countries in the West we would have to criminalize abortion once again, hopefully sooner rather than later. However in other parts of the world I have been in contact with anti-murder activists on this subject and they are slowly but surely gaining more traction to enact such punishments. They will be ahead of us in the near future hopefully and act as a beacon of sorts for those of us here in the West.
You may be wondering if there are any instances in which abortion can be allowed: yes. If the mother's life is in danger and the child is unlikely to survive and continuing it to term will gravely endanger the mother, who is young and/or has few if any children of her own already, then it should be allowed much as we make difficult and unfortunate decisions with triage patients. C'est la vie. But those are the only instances in which it can be carried out.
Naturally, other measures should be put in place to discourage abortion from taking place to begin with: proper sex education, easy access to birth control, more efficient and less abusive foster and adoption services, welfare to take care of expectant mothers who are struggling, etc. But this punishment should still be in place for those who go through with this great evil, even after society making much accommodation for them.
Anyway, enough rambling for this is just a very long way in stating that I believe we should treat those who seek and give abortions the same as we would other murderers.
What do you all think?
P.S. Moderators, feel free to merge this with the other abortion thread if you deem it appropriate.
by Napkiraly » Tue May 29, 2018 11:41 am
Petrasylvania wrote:Eglaecia wrote:And the energy generated from the pointless statements you make that contribute nothing to the discussion could power a small city.
Discussion? You mean calling for the summary execution of anyone performing an abortion and relying on guilt trip emotional appeals is a valid opinion that must be argued down and not a summertime masterpiece?
by Petrasylvania » Tue May 29, 2018 11:48 am
Napkiraly wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:Discussion? You mean calling for the summary execution of anyone performing an abortion and relying on guilt trip emotional appeals is a valid opinion that must be argued down and not a summertime masterpiece?
Nowhere does the OP talk about summary execution lmao.
Fuck me, I don't agree with the guy but he stated in the OP the need to criminalize abortion again and then moving towards enacting laws to apply the death penalty to violations of the law.
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue May 29, 2018 12:00 pm
Greater Gilead wrote:This I agree with. The penalty for both the mother who kills her child and the doctor who does it should be the same as 1st Degree murder. Which in many places is death, but not everywhere.
by The Holy Therns » Tue May 29, 2018 12:02 pm
Gallade wrote:Love, cake, wine and banter. No greater meaning to life (〜^∇^)〜
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by The Serbian Empire » Tue May 29, 2018 12:30 pm
by West Leas Oros » Tue May 29, 2018 1:44 pm
The Serbian Empire wrote:No, I'm full against this. I'd suggest capital punishment should be restricted to spree shooters and serial killers.
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.
by DPR of Arstotzka » Tue May 29, 2018 1:47 pm
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by Uxupox » Tue May 29, 2018 1:48 pm
The Serbian Empire wrote:No, I'm full against this. I'd suggest capital punishment should be restricted to spree shooters and serial killers.
by DPR of Arstotzka » Tue May 29, 2018 1:55 pm
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by Nationalsozialistisches Reich Germania » Tue May 29, 2018 2:05 pm
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by The Imperial Russian Federation » Tue May 29, 2018 3:20 pm
by Crysuko » Tue May 29, 2018 3:21 pm
The Imperial Russian Federation wrote:Crysuko wrote:Press X to doubt. Depending on the development stage (let's say within the first few months) it has little definite shape, no heartbeat, no brain and definitely no conciousness. Doesn't sound very human to me.
Plus, most fetuses are little assholes.
Literally.
by Vassenor » Tue May 29, 2018 3:25 pm
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