LGBT Relationships "Fake", According to Belarus

[Krasny-Volny]

Also, as a proudly lgbt person, it’s nice to see allies and lgbt standing for each other here! As well as forming actual discussions given the subject matter, which, on that, I’m not quite sure the line of reasoning the Belarusian leader can hold without trying to make half-assed excuses so as to still exclude only the lgbt people, or have to adapt to condemn literally everyone in the country not procreating and in a relationship.

There is an important reason.

After the fall of the USSR, the Russian government under Putin created a new Russian-friendly 21st century ideological "model" for their people in order to maintain power and keep the country together. Part of that model are conservative values based on Orthodox Christianity, the religion most people in the USSR adhered to. Orthodox Christianity's stance on LGBT rights are more or less to kill them all if you can. Therefore the Russian government adopted an anti-LGBT stance to reinforce their new ideology. Belarus is a Russian protectorate and therefore they are supposed to follow the same rules and not contradict their owner. Which is why Belarus is anti-LGBT.

Russia is exporting homophobia as part of their power projection schemes, just like the Saudis export homophobia.

It's rather dismissive of you to suggest the people of Belarus are conservative Orthodox Christians with beliefs common to conservative Orthodox Christians simply because they live in a "Russian protectorate".

Russia is not exporting anything in this particular case.

Belarussians always have been Orthodox, and have always been conservative, relatively speaking, even compared to Russia. Whether or not their government is allied with Russia politically is irrelevant. Belarus could be a member of EU and the majority of their people would still be conservative Orthodox Christians who are leery of rainbow flags.

[Ab Humanitatis Scientiam]

The embassy has a right to display the flag

No, it doesn't.

Under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, to which "Belarus" is a party, the UK mission in "Belarus" probably enjoys the de facto right to display the rainbow flag, to the extent that it's doing so is probably entirely within the confines of its rights per Article 22 which makes the premises, documents, and property (including, like, a flag) of the mission inviolable.

The best shot for your position (understood to be "the UK mission has no right to fly the rainbow flag") is probably Article 31.1c (activity outside of diplomatic functions not covered), but then you'd have to demonstrate that the UK mission reflecting UK values and ideas is outside the scope of legitimate UK diplomatic functions.

Good luck with that.

[-United Republic of Freedonia]

The Russian Hood being dicks (no pun intended) with LGBT people. Just the Usual.
Of course the relationship between male and woman is the only way to have babbys, but it doesn't means that same-sex relationships are natural as Master Freud told me.

But in the diplomatic side, i feel that this was a too forthright move for the Brits, screw Lukashenko tho.

[Ethel mermania]

Belarus is fake.

That be Belgium, Belarus is all to real.

[Olthar]

Belarus is fake.

That be Belgium, Belarus is all to real.

I don't buy it. If Belgium isn't real, then where do my waffles come from?

[Cekoviu]

That be Belgium, Belarus is all to real.

I don't buy it. If Belgium isn't real, then where do my waffles come from?

And the chocolate. Maybe it's secretly Dutch?

[United Muscovite Nations]

That be Belgium, Belarus is all to real.

I don't buy it. If Belgium isn't real, then where do my waffles come from?

The Netherlands.

[Gallia-]

They are probably aware internally that they are Diet Russia, and likely prefer that to Diet Swaziland.

But it would solve their problem so beautifully.
"Marriage is only for those who want to raise children, so to marry you have to be expecting".

Clean. Efficient.

And I want to see their faces when the first lesbian pregnant couple comes knocking

Require homosexuals to use non-anonymous donor sperm and arranged marriage of the lesbian couple to their respective donor(s). If it's reciprocal IVF then the donor has pick of the two? That seems the most logical from Belarus viewpoint.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

But it would solve their problem so beautifully.
"Marriage is only for those who want to raise children, so to marry you have to be expecting".

Clean. Efficient.

And I want to see their faces when the first lesbian pregnant couple comes knocking

Require homosexuals to use non-anonymous donor sperm and arranged marriage of the lesbian couple to their respective donor(s). If it's reciprocal IVF then the donor has pick of the two? That seems the most logical from Belarus viewpoint.

Reciprocal IVF clearly requires three way marriage.

[Turealia]

I won't say they're fake, but they're anti-logical on biological terml. Once again, there's nothing logical nowadays.

[Olthar]

I won't say they're fake, but they're anti-logical on biological terml. Once again, there's nothing logical nowadays.

There's nothing illogical about boobs touching other boobs.

[Ethel mermania]

That be Belgium, Belarus is all to real.

I don't buy it. If Belgium isn't real, then where do my waffles come from?

Of course.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I won't say they're fake, but they're anti-logical on biological terml. Once again, there's nothing logical nowadays.

From a biological standpoint it doesn’t make sense to have sex period. It’s more functional to use artificial inseminiation

[Sperio]

BFS Belarus, (Bull f******* S***) who died and made you in charge of what is real love or not. You know what, let us take that to heart, you know that girl you had a crush on, well Belarus says that it is fake so it is not real. Grow up Belarus

[Ab Humanitatis Scientiam]

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[Greater Gilead]

Bigoted homophobia is classed as common sense now?

"Common sense" is one of those things people say to make their personal opinions seem more substantial and important.

I am a Christian, and I believe that homosexuality is an abomination. And yes, I have a citation: The Holy Scriptures

[Krasny-Volny]

I won't say they're fake, but they're anti-logical on biological terml. ...

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[Bahktar]

All I can say is,

[Martian Alliance]

Any couple that can't make babies is fake. /s

[Ab Humanitatis Scientiam]

From a biological standpoint it doesn’t make sense to have sex period. It’s more functional to use artificial inseminiation

Rather than argue over the economics of it all, it would be easier just to note that consenting adults are free to choose whatever means or methods they like.

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I'll respond to the argument, once, you know, it exists. At the very least, it would help to have a definition of what "anti-logical" is supposed to mean in "biological term[s]."

[Cekoviu]

"Common sense" is one of those things people say to make their personal opinions seem more substantial and important.

I am a Christian, and I believe that homosexuality is an abomination. And yes, I have a citation: The Holy Scriptures

I believe that gay people shouldn't be attacked for what they can't change. And yes, I have a citation: The Holy Scriptures

[Baltenstein]

All I can say is,
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That is indeed a very difficult picture to form an opinion about.
The badassitude of the Selleck pornstache is immediately debilitated by the pedophile-esque comb-over hairdo.

[Olthar]

"Common sense" is one of those things people say to make their personal opinions seem more substantial and important.

I am a Christian, and I believe that homosexuality is an abomination. And yes, I have a citation: The Holy Scriptures

Leviticus, eh? And you claim you're a Christian? Well, how about this one: link. Do you know the meaning of that quote? Jesus came to fulfill the covenant, which he did by dying on the cross. The Laws in the Old Testament were the laws that people were required to follow to enter the Kingdom of God. However, Jesus changed that. His sacrifice absolved Original Sin, thus rendering those laws obsolete.

The point of the sacrifice is that those laws are no longer necessary; to reach Heaven, one must simply accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. By declaring that Leviticus still applies, you are implicitly declaring that Jesus's sacrifice meant nothing, that God's plan for your salvation wasn't good enough for you. That is pure heresy and blasphemy for anyone who claims to be Christian.

You only have two options here: accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and reject the laws of the Old Testament, or convert to Judaism.

[Vassenor]

Any couple that can't make babies is fake. /s

And yet no-one who seriously tries to suggest that says anything about banning the infertile or anyone else biologically incapable of reproduction from marrying.

[United Muscovite Nations]

All I can say is,
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That is indeed a very difficult picture to form an opinion about.
The badassasitude of the Selleck pornstache is immediately debilitated by the pedophile-esque comb-over hairdo.

Well, how about the fact that he had an affair with his doctor, who he got pregnant?