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[SUBMITTED] Rewrite the Stars

Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:54 pm

Underlined phrases are my own comments & notes & orange words are changes from the previous draft. If just the option & its number are orange, then a whole new option has been introduced.
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Title: Rewrite the Stars
Validity: Must not be an atheist nation, high primitiveness
Description: When @@RANDOMNAME@@ was applying for a job, @@HE@@ was asked to identify both @@HIS@@ @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ zodiac and @@HIS@@ Dàgúorén zodiac. Days later, @@HE@@ was denied due to having an "incompatible zodiac."

Option 1: "Look, we have a lot of Oxen in our company, we don't goat space for a filthy Goat!" says the half-Dàgúorén human resource manager who pushed to deny the application. "Do you have any idea what happened last time we had a Goat in our building? They must've been some sort of serial killer — they never explained anything they did, even when they came into work all bloody. I don't know about you, but zodiacs are perfectly reasonable to factor in during the hiring process. @@RANDOMNAME1@@ over there can go somewhere else if they don't like it."
Effect 1: one's zodiac sign matters more than skills in @@NAME@@

Option 2: "Eh? What kind of idiotic logic is that?" questions the denied citizen, wearing a blood-stained apron. "Firstly, ignore the blood, please. Secondly, some of my best friends are Oxen, and we get along just fine, except for where to eat, talking about fashion, discussing sports, our favorite colors... well, maybe 90% of things we disagree on. But still, we're best friends, as tight as can be! If I can pull that off, there's absolutely no reason why I can't do it in the workplace too! It's unreasonable for my birthday to affect what job I can get."
Effect 2: incompatible zodiacs are often forced together in hopes of becoming friends

Option 3: "@@LEADER@@, I predict that you'll drink poisoned liquids if I don't stop you!" a fortune teller suddenly yells before swatting away at the bottle you were drinking from. "Ahah! Thallium. How did I know, you ask? Well, I was checking out my horoscope, and I was told that I would save you by doing that. Don't you see? Zodiac signs aren't just some sort of superstitious idiocy, but they ... even govern our fates and lives! For the glory of our nation, we must force all citizens to have daily horoscope readings to ensure their luck."
Effect 3: Blackacre assassins disguise themselves as fortune tellers to convince their targets to walk into traps

Option 4: "These accursed faiths!" yells @@RANDOMNAME@@, a highly secular @@MAN@@ who blames religion for almost everything. "Ever noticed how many problems are caused by these spiritual and religious conflicts? Let's be honest here, has faith ever provided anything useful for the nation? We're always panicking over nothing, for Violet's sake! We'd be better off as a fully atheist nation, with nobody believing in idiocy like this."
Effect 4: no fortune teller foresees the government coming for them
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:55 pm

To make it easier to edit the original post, this post will be getting edited for previous copies so then I don't have to deal with a mile-long post each time I have to make a change.

Title: Rewrite the Stars
Validity: Must not be an atheist nation, high primitiveness
Description: When @@RANDOMNAME@@ was applying for a job, @@HE@@ was asked to identify both @@HIS@@ @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ zodiac and @@HIS@@ Dàgúorén zodiac. Days later, they were denied due to having an "incompatible zodiac."

Option 1: "Look, we have a lot of Oxen in our company, we don't goat space for a filthy Goat!" says the half-Dàgúorén human resource manager who pushed to deny the application. "Do you have any idea what happened last time we had a Goat in our building? The idiot was an enigma; they must've been some sort of serial killer — they never explained anything they did, even when they ... came into work all bloody. I don't know about you, but zodiacs are perfectly reasonable to factor in during the hiring process. @@RANDOMNAME1@@ over there can go somewhere else if they don't like it."
Effect 1: one's zodiac sign matters more than skills in @@NAME@@

Option 2: "Eh? What kind of idiotic logic is that?" questions the denied citizen, wearing a blood-stained apron. "Firstly, ignore the blood, please. Secondly, some of my best friends are Oxen, and we get along just fine, except for when we're eating out, talking about fashion, and... well, a lot of things. But still, we're best friends, as tight as can be! If I can pull that off, there's absolutely no reason why I can't do it in the workplace too! It's unreasonable for my birthday's month and day to affect what job I can get."
Effect 2: incompatible zodiacs are often forced together in hopes of becoming friends

Option 3: "@@LEADER@@, I predict that you'll drink poisoned liquids if I don't stop you!" a fortune teller suddenly yells before swatting away at the bottle you were drinking from. "Ahah! Rattlesnake venom. How did I know, you ask? Well, I was checking out my horoscope, and I was told that I would save you by doing that. See? Zodiac signs aren't some sort of superstitious idiocy, but they can even govern our fates and lives! For the glory of our nation, we must force all citizens to have daily horoscope readings to ensure their luck."
Effect 3: Blackacre assassins disguise themselves as fortune tellers to convince their targets to walk into traps

Option 4: "This all seems awfully religious, and in a bad way," claims @@RANDOMNAME@@, a highly secular @@MAN@@ who blames religion for almost everything. "Ever noticed how many problems are caused by these spiritual and religious conflicts? Let's be honest here, has faith ever provided anything useful for the nation? We're always panicking over nothing, for God's sake! We'd be better off as a fully atheist nation, with nobody believing in idiocy like this."
Effect 4: no fortune teller foresees the government coming for them


Title: Rewrite the Stars
Validity: Must not be an atheist nation
Description: When @@RANDOMNAME@@ was applying for a job, @@HE@@ was asked to identify both their @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ zodiac and their Dàgúorén zodiac. Days later, they were denied due to having an "incompatible zodiac."

Option 1: "Look, we have a lot of Oxen in our company, we don't goat space for a filthy Goat!" says the half-Dàgúorén human resource manager who pushed to deny the application. "Do you have any idea what happened last time we had a Goat in our building? The idiot was an enigma; they must've been some sort of serial killer — they never explained anything they did, even when they were acting weirdly or came into work all bloody. I don't know about you, but zodiacs are perfectly reasonable to factor in during the hiring process."
Effect 1: one's zodiac sign matters more than skills in @@NAME@@

Option 2: "Eh? What kind of idiotic logic is that?" questions the denied citizen, wearing a blood-stained apron. "Firstly, ignore the blood, please. Secondly, some of my best friends are Oxen, and we get along just fine, except for when we're eating out, talking about fashion... well, a lot of things. But still, we're best friends, as tight as can be! If I can pull that off, there's absolutely no reason why I can't do it in the workplace too! It's unreasonable for my birthday's month and day to affect what job I get."
Effect 2: incompatible zodiacs are often forced together in hopes of becoming friends

Option 3: "@@LEADER@@, I predict that you'll drink poisoned liquids if I don't stop you!" a fortune teller suddenly yells before swatting away at the bottle you were drinking from. "Ahah! Rattlesnake venom. How did I know, you ask? Well, I was checking out my horoscope, and I was told that I would save you by doing that. See? Zodiac signs aren't some sort of idiocy, but they can even change our fate and lives! For the glory of our nation, we must force all citizens to have daily horoscope readings to ensure their luck."
Effect 3: Blackacre assassins disguise themselves as fortune tellers to convince their targets to walk into traps

Option 4: "This all seems awfully religious, and in a bad way," claims @@RANDOMNAME@@, a highly secular @@MAN@@ who blames religion for almost everything. "Ever noticed how many problems are caused by these spiritual and religious conflicts? Let's be honest here, has faith ever provided anything useful for the nation? We're always panicking over nothing, for God's sake! We'd be better off as a fully atheist nation, with nobody believing in idiocy like this."
Effect 4: no fortune teller foresees the government coming for them
Last edited by Shwe Tu Colony on Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:03 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:02 pm

I'd hope the fortune teller swipes away the poison before you drink even a sip of the stuff.
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:03 pm

Chan Island wrote:I'd hope the fortune teller swipes away the poison before you drink even a sip of the stuff.

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:"a fortune teller suddenly yells before swatting away at the bottle you were drinking from."

Oh dear. Meh. Plus, it's debatable as to whether or not they're lying.
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:17 pm

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Chan Island wrote:I'd hope the fortune teller swipes away the poison before you drink even a sip of the stuff.

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:"a fortune teller suddenly yells before swatting away at the bottle you were drinking from."

Oh dear. Meh. Plus, it's debatable as to whether or not they're lying.


It would either have to be some weak poison, or leader is bound for a session in hospital and possibly a cemetery then.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue May 01, 2018 2:19 am

There's already an issue about whether fortune telling should be allowed. This is marginally different, being about star signs, but feels like an overlap to me.
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Postby Jutsa » Tue May 01, 2018 8:39 am

Aw. Sorry Shwe. :(

I mostly dropped by to mention that @@LEADER@@ is immortal anyway so drinking poison probably wouldn't actually do anything anyway.
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Tue May 01, 2018 3:12 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:There's already an issue about whether fortune telling should be allowed. This is marginally different, being about star signs, but feels like an overlap to me.


This one's whether or not zodiac signs should apply when choosing candidates for a job.
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Aware of that. My advice stands.

If you feel it is sufficiently distinct, go ahead with it. Other editors may feel differently.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed May 02, 2018 5:00 pm

Atheists are more likely to beleive in Zodiacs than religious people
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Wed May 02, 2018 5:33 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Aware of that. My advice stands.

If you feel it is sufficiently distinct, go ahead with it. Other editors may feel differently.


Could I have a link to the draft, though?
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed May 02, 2018 5:39 pm

#416: Prophet Margins jumps to mind. Not sure if there's another.

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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Wed May 16, 2018 11:02 pm

Luna Amore wrote:#416: Prophet Margins jumps to mind. Not sure if there's another.


Unless I'm missing something, it don't seem similar enough — this one is asking if things like zodiac signs can be factored in if someone gets denied or accepted. Absurd, I know, but a lot of things are. Now, if it's believable is the question.
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Postby Drasnia » Wed May 16, 2018 11:19 pm

Personally, I feel it distinct enough from Prophet Margins. In fact, it seems like a natural issue leading from #416, much like how #680 was.
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Postby Chan Island » Wed May 16, 2018 11:38 pm

Drasnia wrote:Personally, I feel it distinct enough from Prophet Margins. In fact, it seems like a natural issue leading from #416, much like how #680 was.



Off, but 680 itself is about star signs.
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Postby Frieden-und Freudenland » Sun May 20, 2018 3:30 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:Atheists are more likely to beleive in Zodiacs than religious people

Huh? Are you sure about that? ;)
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Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Atheists are more likely to beleive in Zodiacs than religious people
Huh? Are you sure about that? ;)
I don't know about any statistical data, but it's actually not too implausible.

Many religions, particularly Abrahammic ones, look down on common "folk superstitions" like astrology that aren't supported by their holy texts. (See Leviticus 19:26, Deuteronomy 18:10, Isaiah 47:13-14.)

Not all atheists are rational only-what's-been-proven-through-scientific-evidence skeptics. There are also people who lack a commitment to any particular god, but still believe in various supernatural phenomena like astrology or ghosts. These superstitious atheists and the skeptic atheists are different groups, who do not get along.

However, NationStates does not have a "superstitiousness" stat separate from the "religiousness" stat.
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Postby Chan Island » Sun May 20, 2018 9:43 pm

Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Atheists are more likely to beleive in Zodiacs than religious people

Huh? Are you sure about that? ;)


Not bothered to get the numbers, but from my anecdotal experience I can say a distressingly large number of atheists genuinely believe in astrology. Discussions can get heated.
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:21 pm

Made some small edits.
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Postby Sacara » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:14 am

To be honest, this feels like something that doesn't seem to occur. Isn't there other issues about applicants being denied over things that do not pertain to the job?
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:37 pm

Sacara wrote:To be honest, this feels like something that doesn't seem to occur. Isn't there other issues about applicants being denied over things that do not pertain to the job?


Put a high primitiveness tag on the validity.
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:21 pm

Bump.
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:28 pm

May have killed my desire to work on issues at some point, so this'll prolly be my last one you lot will see from me for a while... whenever I run out of roleplays I'll probably come back to entertain myself.
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:50 pm

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